WTF Bites
-
You don't encode bold italics as a separate unicode character either
Actually you can!
See, mathematicians and physicists are madly in love with naming everything with single letters. So of course they quickly burnt through the 26 Latin letters, and their 26 case variants, then through the upper and lower case Greek letters and went on to use bold, double-strike, script and fraktur to distinguish meaning. So Unicode encoded them, plus italic for distinguishing variables in text as separate code-points.
The argument does not apply to small-caps though, because as far as I can tell, mathematicians never abused those.
-
The argument does not apply to small-caps though, because as far as I can tell, mathematicians never abused those.
All we need is another type of shift key and programmers will fix that just fine!
-
@topspin I don't know that they should be separate Unicode characters, but fonts, good ones at least, do have separate bold/italic variants
But those are completely separate variants, using the same numbers for the corresponding glyphs.
@Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:
Yes, but even with that reasoning, there would be no reason to include small caps since they're not graphically different from normal caps.
Actually, no, they are not (necessarily). But you still expect to simply have a small-caps font variant, not special code-points in the normal font.
-
Or they implemented paste as a macro in the document.
The Jeff Atwood school of document creation
It's a bugtracker and a floorwax!
-
@topspin I don't know that they should be separate Unicode characters, but fonts, good ones at least, do have separate bold/italic variants, rather than programmatically slanting the letters or making the strokes thicker
But Unicode isn’t fonts. At least I thought, but it seems nobody can agree with what should or shouldn’t be represented by Unicode. (6 billion flavors of poop aside)
Unicode shouldn't be fonts, did reject some code proposals with argument they are only font differences, and it was also the main argument why Unihan is OK—the characters mean the same thing, just use appropriate font for Chinese, Japanese or Korean. But they also conceded for some other characters.
The mathematical variants at least make Some™ sense, because they do have meaning distinction (but then, mathematical notation is whole another shipping container of worms). I do think the small-caps are a , that's why I posted it in this dread.
-
The mathematical variants at least make Some™ sense, because they do have meaning distinction (but then, mathematical notation is whole another shipping container of worms).
We have MathML and TeX.
-
I’ll readily confess to not fully understanding hi-fi stuff, and yet…
… something might be missing here.
-
The mathematical variants at least make Some™ sense, because they do have meaning distinction (but then, mathematical notation is whole another shipping container of worms).
We have MathML and TeX.
But in TeX something like ℝ is denoted as 'The double-struck version of R' (
\mathbb{R}
, if memory serves), and definitely not as a letter in its own right.
-
-
@DogsB Where you see , I see market opportunity. Thermally conductive stickers FTW!
-
@cvi all stickers are thermally conductive. Just like everything else.
-
@Gąska Ah, let me clarify what I meant for you then: thermallier conductivner stickers.
-
I can see the argument for smallcaps - after all upper and lower case are both in Unicode as separate code points, and that distinction was so important it was in ASCII from day 1. Small caps is a thing like that but not the same as either of those two things.
If you're going to do it though it clearly should be a contiguous block and include all letters!
-
@bobjanova said in WTF Bites:
it was in ASCII from day 1.
ASCII 1963 included only upper-case letters, not lower-case. Lower-case letters were added in the draft standard of October 1963, but not formally adopted and published until 1967. </>
-
: "Back in my days, we didn't have your fancy lowercase letters! We had to do everything with uppercase ones, uphill both ways, in the snow!"
-
Just registered for a COVID vaccine at the department for redundancy department:
Nice try at inclusiveness there: first my "gender"—only two options, select "male". Next page: Are you pregnant? Are you a lactating mother?
If I wasn't quite sure it would work I'd be tempted to register Little Bobby Tables, 99yo pregnant, lactating male born in 2040 with Martial Status *page edit*
FILE_NOT_FOUND
, and watch the database crash and burn.
-
@LaoC I have so many garage-worthy things to say here, but I will refrain. There are just so many mockable angles.
-
@Benjamin-Hall said in WTF Bites:
@LaoC I have so many garage-worthy things to say here, but I will refrain. There are just so many mockable angles.
Be sure when Mocking an angle to include overrides for the
sin
andtan
methods
-
@Benjamin-Hall said in WTF Bites:
@LaoC I have so many garage-worthy things to say here, but I will refrain. There are just so many mockable angles.
Be sure when Mocking an angle to include overrides for the
sin
andtan
methodsBut not
cos
, because with COVID we can'tsin
together
-
Just registered for a COVID vaccine at the department for redundancy department:
Nice try at inclusiveness there: first my "gender"—only two options, select "male". Next page: Are you pregnant? Are you a lactating mother?
If I wasn't quite sure it would work I'd be tempted to register Little Bobby Tables, 99yo pregnant, lactating male born in 2040 with Martial Status *page edit*
FILE_NOT_FOUND
, and watch the database crash and burn.I sure hope you wrote "not a war" in the third input.
-
Nice try at inclusiveness there: first my "gender"—only two options, select "male". Next page: Are you pregnant? Are you a lactating mother?
Please see the Garage for the correct terminology
-
@loopback0 said in WTF Bites:
Nice try at inclusiveness there: first my "gender"—only two options, select "male". Next page: Are you pregnant? Are you a lactating mother?
Please see the Garage for the correct terminology
Male-presenting nipples.
-
@loopback0 said in WTF Bites:
Nice try at inclusiveness there: first my "gender"—only two options, select "male". Next page: Are you pregnant? Are you a lactating mother?
Please see the Garage for the correct terminology
Male-presenting nipples.
No. Not interested in yours, and I'm pretty sure you don't want to see my moobs.
-
@HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:
Not interested in yours
-
Send the pictures to @Tsaukpaetra instead, he's pretty much interested in anything.
-
@Zerosquare Was that directed to me?
he's pretty much interested in anything.
True, but nope thread is .
-
No, I was replying to @topspin.
-
@Zerosquare Ok. It's difficult to be sure when the reply is to the thread rather than to a specific post.
-
Doesn't matter much in this case. I'm sure @Tsaukpaetra would gladly accept your pictures as well.
-
@Zerosquare No doubt. But I'm very much disinclined to send any.
-
@bobjanova said in WTF Bites:
I can see the argument for smallcaps - after all upper and lower case are both in Unicode as separate code points, and that distinction was so important it was in ASCII from day 1. Small caps is a thing like that but not the same as either of those two things.
Where do small caps work like another case, in the sense that word should be written with those instead of normal upper or lower case (except the funky naming convention proposal that started this discussion)?
-
The mathematical variants at least make Some™ sense, because they do have meaning distinction (but then, mathematical notation is whole another shipping container of worms).
We have MathML and TeX.
But in TeX something like ℝ is denoted as 'The double-struck version of R' (
\mathbb{R}
, if memory serves), and definitely not as a letter in its own right.Well, MathJaX does accept the special characters and back when I needed some MathJaX in documentation, I used them to make the equations more readable when seen in the IDE as plain comments. But that's an afterthought—you don't need Unicode to write math.
-
Where do small caps work like another case, in the sense that word should be written with those instead of normal upper or lower case
It's used in literature sometimes, e.g. Death in Terry Pratchett.
-
-
What fucking magic is this? (OSX)
> /usr/bin/git --version git version 2.24.3 (Applit Git-128) > whereis git /usr/bin/git > git --version git version 2.30.0
I have
git
installed viaport
. Smartgit is throwing a tantrum complaininggit
is too old.
-
@dcon according to Super User SE:
whereis
searches the standard *nix locations for a specified command.which
searches your user-specific PATH (which may include some of the locations whereis searches, and may not include others - it might also include some places that whereis doesn't search if you'd added to your PATH)I.e. you fucked up by using
whereis
instead ofwhich
. I don't understand why anyone would want to usewhereis
at all in the first place. It sounds absolutely useless.Edit: as for your actual problem (the last line of your post that I missed the first time around), you probably have the new Git added to PATH in one place but not the other. GLHF figuring this shit out.
-
@dcon according to Super User SE:
whereis
searches the standard *nix locations for a specified command.which
searches your user-specific PATH (which may include some of the locations whereis searches, and may not include others - it might also include some places that whereis doesn't search if you'd added to your PATH)I.e. you fucked up by using
whereis
instead ofwhich
. I don't understand why anyone would want to usewhereis
at all in the first place. It sounds absolutely useless.Edit: as for your actual problem (the last line of your post that I missed the first time around), you probably have the new Git added to PATH in one place but not the other. GLHF figuring this shit out.
Assuming you're in bash, you really want to use the builtin
type
(which also checks for aliases and shell functions).
-
GLHF figuring this shit out
I said "screw it" and told SmartGit to use it's internal git. So at least I won't invoke Apple's decrepit version.
-
@dcon according to Super User SE:
whereis
searches the standard *nix locations for a specified command.which
searches your user-specific PATH (which may include some of the locations whereis searches, and may not include others - it might also include some places that whereis doesn't search if you'd added to your PATH)I.e. you fucked up by using
whereis
instead ofwhich
. I don't understand why anyone would want to usewhereis
at all in the first place. It sounds absolutely useless.Edit: as for your actual problem (the last line of your post that I missed the first time around), you probably have the new Git added to PATH in one place but not the other. GLHF figuring this shit out.
Assuming you're in bash, you really want to use the builtin
type
(which also checks for aliases and shell functions).I half-expect someone to chime in now and say that
type
doesn't work all that well anymore due to XXX and the new recommended way is YYY, which works exactly the same but takes XXX into account.
Filed under: mysqli_real_whereis
-
@dcon according to Super User SE:
whereis
searches the standard *nix locations for a specified command.which
searches your user-specific PATH (which may include some of the locations whereis searches, and may not include others - it might also include some places that whereis doesn't search if you'd added to your PATH)I.e. you fucked up by using
whereis
instead ofwhich
. I don't understand why anyone would want to usewhereis
at all in the first place. It sounds absolutely useless.Edit: as for your actual problem (the last line of your post that I missed the first time around), you probably have the new Git added to PATH in one place but not the other. GLHF figuring this shit out.
Assuming you're in bash, you really want to use the builtin
type
(which also checks for aliases and shell functions).I half-expect someone to chime in now and say that
type
doesn't work all that well anymore due to XXX and the new recommended way is YYY, which works exactly the same but takes XXX into account.
Filed under: mysqli_real_whereis
You clearly know you've erred, why should we waste effort preaching the gospel of PHP?
-
I.e. you fucked up by using
whereis
instead ofwhich
. I don't understand why anyone would want to usewhereis
at all in the first place. It sounds absolutely useless.TIL about
whereis
.
-
Oh no. Oh no oh no oh no.
@Tsaukpaetra sudo system restore, RIGHT NOW.
-
Oh no. Oh no oh no oh no.
@Tsaukpaetra sudo system restore, RIGHT NOW.
Error,
system
Not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program, batch file, system function, or resource.
-
Edit: as for your actual problem (the last line of your post that I missed the first time around), you probably have the new Git added to PATH in one place but not the other.
Since I've turned that machine off, I'm not going to see what
whence
(ortype
) says!
-
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
Oh no. Oh no oh no oh no.
@Tsaukpaetra sudo system restore, RIGHT NOW.
Error,
system
Not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program, batch file, system function, or resource.sudo "system restore"
-
Status: Something went wrong. I attempted to create
index.dat
and...UwU
-
...and here we go again.
*reboots @Tsaukpaetra's computer*
*reboots @Tsaukpaetra as well*
*reboots @Tsaukpaetra's fridge and coffee machine, just to be sure*
-
*chimes* Oh hey, look! A new device was discovered!
-
@Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:
...and here we go again.
*reboots @Tsaukpaetra's computer*
*reboots @Tsaukpaetra as well*
*reboots @Tsaukpaetra's fridge and coffee machine, just to be sure*There goes that uptime!!
-
@Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:
...and here we go again.
*reboots @Tsaukpaetra's computer*
*reboots @Tsaukpaetra as well*
*reboots @Tsaukpaetra's fridge and coffee machine, just to be sure*There goes that uptime!!
Trust me, it's up whenever wanted!