WTF Bites
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@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@HardwareGeek I like how they try to rationalize literally hosting the Minecraft source by 'it's been done before'.
Kinda like how your mom was fucked, right? Or something like that.
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@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@HardwareGeek I like how they try to rationalize literally hosting the Minecraft source by 'it's been done before'.
They stuck an MIT license on it before? Get 'em! The license being incompatible with the stuff in the repo is... another issue!
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@HardwareGeek I like how they try to rationalize literally hosting the Minecraft source by 'it's been done before'.
Kinda like how your mom was fucked, right? Or something like that.
Nothing like the way his mom was fucked. What do you take me for?
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@Gribnit is there something wrong with the MIT license?
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@BernieTheBernie said in WTF Bites:
@Tsaukpaetra What's that "Spash Screen"? Is that the Laotian version of Splash Screen? But wait, even "Spash" has too many consonants in a row for a Laotion, and "screen" is even worse; they'd rather pronounce it like "sae seen".
Famously, the Dutch word with the most consonants in a row is
angstschreeuw
.English can't quite match that. FWIW,
archchronicler
is about as many as I can find with a quick grep (and ignoring foreign loanwords).Too bad English shortens the Russian "borschtsch" to "borscht", that would probably win. I don't even want to imagine how a Lao tongue would mangle that word.
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@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@Gribnit is there something wrong with the MIT license?
Well, you assert that you have the copyright by applying it. And the stuff is already proprietary / LGPL. If they had wanted to steal shit they shouldn't have stuck a license on it...
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@Gribnit if I want to include an MIT licensed work in my MIT licensed work, I can. That's part of the point.
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@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@Gribnit if I want to include an MIT licensed work in my MIT licensed work, I can. That's part of the point.
Perhaps I should have said, "they". If you want to keep hassling yon Minecraft/Forge enswipers, you can at least get them to not assert the right to license the shit.
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@Gribnit Right, 'all rights reserved' is so much more moral.
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@pie_flavor Did you get a bad vag rash? I was as far as I could see, agreeing with you that these folks were violating copyright pretty hard. My point was, the license compounds it because by licensing you are asserting that you have the right to license something. Having a bunch of stolen code is slightly less bad than then asserting copyright on it. Point ends. Douche.
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@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@Gribnit if I want to include an MIT licensed work in my MIT licensed work, I can. That's part of the point.
I think what @Gribnit is trying to say, in a way that is slightly more lucid than his typical posts (that's not a high bar), is that the legitimate copyright holder already licensed it with proprietary and/or LGPL, and the host of the copy, modified or not, has no right to apply a different license (except to their own modifications, if any, and only if permitted by the original license).
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:
You sire
Are you calling me your father or your king?
That's obviously a verb. He's saying you habitually knock up people.
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@HardwareGeek I think "Lot's right" is better. Sounds like a biblical reference. I was wondering, why does Lot have no right? Let us propagate this. Somehow. Claim it's from the Apocrypha.
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@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@HardwareGeek I like how they try to rationalize literally hosting the Minecraft source by 'it's been done before'.
I suppose they didn't read the license, so that's fine.
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:
You sire
Are you calling me your father or your king?
That's obviously a verb. He's saying you habitually knock up people.
Only my (ex-)wife, and I wouldn't call twice much of a habit.
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:
That's obviously a verb. He's saying you habitually knock up people.
Only my (ex-)wife, and I wouldn't call twice much of a habit.
There's a
nunchucknun joke in there somewhere but I can't put my finger in it.
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@pie_flavor In other news, they've at least put the LGPL up for Forge. So that's a little better.
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@Gribnit Forge has always been LGPL, hasn't it? As for content rehosting, there are sort of a lot of Minecraft rehosts. But LexManos is probably going to do something about this one if Mojang doesn't.
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@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@Gribnit Forge has always been LGPL, hasn't it? As for content rehosting, there are sort of a lot of Minecraft rehosts. But LexManos is probably going to do something if Mojang doesn't.
They, meaning yon folks over at Github, have shortly after you yelled at them, or at about the same time, put up the LGPL copy for Forge. They are no longer stealing that.
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@pie_flavor Hmm. Minecraft is owned by Microsoft; GitHub is owned by Microsoft.
Clearly none of those are actually copyright violations any more.
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@kazitor yep, clearly
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@Gribnit You are correct. So not Lex then. They're still in violation over IBXM (new BSD), Spigot (CC-BY-SA), MCP (MCP), the decompiled source code (Mojang + MCP), Bukkit (LGPL), and CraftBukkit (GPL / CC-BY-SA).
Bit of a road ahead, especially the licensing from Mojang part.
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@pie_flavor Next step: sock up, submit trivial PRs, become a collaborator and continue pestering them.
Then get it revoked immediately.
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Status: I'm going to attempt to pretend to install Visual Studio 2017 on Linux under Wine, to see of the MS C++ compiler can actually be used inside it.
Is this drunk?
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Status: 158 MB download, expands to 1 GB of shit.
That's a lot of fluff!
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
Status: I'm going to attempt to pretend to install Visual Studio 2017 on Linux under Wine, to see of the MS C++ compiler can actually be used inside it.
Is this drunk?
If "drunk" can describe someone on PCP-laced crack, then yes.
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@Tsaukpaetra Visual Studio barely manages to run on Windows, so good luck.
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@anonymous234 said in WTF Bites:
@Tsaukpaetra Visual Studio barely manages to run on Windows, so good luck.
Well, the installer
FailFast
s pretty darn fast.Looks like I'm going to do my old standby of capturing a real Windows install, then mirroring the changes...
Edit: And now that's in progress...
Filed under: Why is the packager icon turned into a thong?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
the packager
Status: 40 GB was definitely not enough to store Windows 10, Visual Studio 2017, the snapshot of the system, the diff file from the snapshot of the system, and the VFS result of the diff of the snapshot of the system.
Why do I keep forgetting to set the disk size in the Create VM wizard?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
Status: 158 MB download, expands to 1 GB of shit.
That's a lot of fluff!
Textual data, including shell scripts and linux configuration files, frequently compress to a tenth of their original size.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
Status: I'm going to attempt to pretend to install Visual Studio 2017 on Linux under Wine, to see of the MS C++ compiler can actually be used inside it.
Is this drunk?
Depends on how much wine you're under.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
40 GB
Just the installed VS directory in PG(x86) is nearly 5GB. And I only have C++ and some UWP stuff.
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:
the world's second-best gourmet chocolate and the best that is easily available.
It turns out the best is easily available after all, through Amazon. But then I'd have to buy from Amazon. No.
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
40 GB was definitely not enough
640 kB is enough for anyone.
Shut up, electronics engineer.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
Why do I keep forgetting to set the disk size in the Create VM wizard?
Moved some shit onto a network-attached VHD and told Windows to compress the Visual Studio folder.
It's stuck.
Also, apparently its been long enough that Windows feels I need to be shamed for not activating the snapshot VM.
I think I'm going to need to start again...
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
I think I'm going to need to start again...
Started over. Luckily it's pretty trivial to extend virtual hard drives...
And oh look, nag screen is gone (because snapshot rollback) yay!
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
yay!
Imported the registry changes and files over. Attempt to launch devenv.
Apparently the included version of ADVAPI32.dll doesn't.
Pondering while I steam ahead.
But wait, will I run out of space in Linux too? I mean, I need to download and (potentially) compile the source of the game engine. So far I'm 36 percent used,
and a full compile and cook on Windows uses... well, significantly more than 37 GB.
Conundrum.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
Conundrum
Attempted to use a Samba share to hold the files.
Well damn, I need to figure out how to get write permissions I guess...?
Edit: Wait a moment, I mounted this as Root. Why the shit can't I access literally everything?
Edit 2: Apparently I needed to set my UID when mounting. Who knew?
Anyways, stage one seems to be going well now...
I'll come back in the morning...
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the Russian "borschtsch"
It's just a single letter - борщ - how is it supposed to expand to seven different ones?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
install Visual Studio 2017 on Linux under Wine
You might have already tried to reproduce this, but I'm posting the link just in case.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
install Visual Studio 2017 on Linux under Wine
You might have already tried to reproduce this, but I'm posting the link just in case.
No, that was Ben, and I need more than just C++ (Unreal uses .Net too, for some things).
And I'm definitely not using Docker either. I don't need to add in yet another layer of indirection to this toy!
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
I'll come back in the morning...
I lied, it is now morning!
But I need to do some registry fuckery, I guess.
That will wait until I actually get some sleep.
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I cannot think of a scenario where you want different documents in a single PDF where a single ZIP wouldn't work.
Secretary receives the PDF and prints it off, scanning pages to send the individual parts to the relevant departments.
And the licence for WinZip has expired on her Win98 computer.
WinZip costs apparently €26.04 if I were to purchase a license right now.
7Zip is rather free.There's several WTFs here, starting with the odd fact that WinZip is still alive and apparently in their 23rd version. Further, it is being marketed to Windows 10 users. And, if I'm reading 7Zip's manual right, sports support for more than 10 file types less than 7Zip.
But it has "Win" right there in the name.Now, I know someone will just tell me that I've gravely misunderstood somethjing here. But still...
Not quite the same but...
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the Russian "borschtsch"
It's just a single letter - борщ - how is it supposed to expand to seven different ones?
The /ʃ/ sound that's "sh" in English is "sch" in German, and for some reason also in the English "borscht", maybe because English got the word via Yiddish. Wikpedia says 'щ' is actually /ɕ(ː)/ in Russian but /ʃt͡ʃ/ in Ukrainian, that does make five to seven letters as romanization of one Cyrillic letter.
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Let's have some WTF courtesy of macOS. Remember to reboot your computers occasionally, because memory leaks is apparently the current standard!
After a reboot, WindowServer uses 220MB, Discord Helper 45MB, Adobe Desktop Service 152MB and OneDrive 30MB.
Also, rebooting gave me this nice mixed-language dialogue. Just like I'm using a partially translated Linux dist!
For the record, my system language is set to swedish, but I keep getting english text randomly. Like the login prompt got a 50/50 chance of being in either language.