Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks
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@blakeyrat said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
Microsoft keyboard
I’ve always found it kind of ironic that the best products from Microsoft have been hardware.
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@blakeyrat said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
Oh goodie. I can pay 3 times more to solve a problem you just said I've never noticed.
It's one of your favorite pastimes. Why shouldn't other people get in on it?
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@Gurth said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
I’ve always found it kind of ironic that the best products from Microsoft have been hardware.
I have Microsoft Wireless Keyboard + Mouse. The rubber band covering the mouse scroll snapped one day (i believe it was 3 months after purchase), and since then, scrolling hurts my finger and doesn't always work - which makes it completely useless in games. Would not buy again.
The keyboard, however, works fine - but drains the batteries like hell.
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@accalia said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
... you have never actually tried typing on a keyboard powered by Cherry MX Brown switches.
precise activation force, tactile feedback, non clicky so it's much quieter than the MX blues and way way way quieter than the old Model M's with the buckling springs.... it's glorious.
and when the keycaps start going with constant use, you just buy a new set of caps and replace them as needed. no need to throw out that keyboard just because you've worn off the F and J finger registration nubs.
if you seriously try a good mechanical keyboard you will wonder why you ever put up with membrane switches.
Both my work and home computer have MX brown based keyboards. I think it's worth the $200 investment for two keyboards, but I don't feel it's any where close to a "drastic improvement".
The biggest plus of a mechanical keyboard is that you can type softer on it without missing keystrokes. Because of this, it does reduce the wear on your hands, but not until you get used to typing on the keyboard. When they first buy a mechanical, most people still pound on the keys like they have always done, so they don't notice any improvement.
Also, most mechanical keyboards are simply better keyboards. I appreciate the fact that my keyboards weighs two pounds as much as I appreciate the feel of the switches.
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@Jaime said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
I think it's worth the $200 investment for two keyboards
@Jaime said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
I don't feel it's any where close to a "drastic improvement"
Jesus, how much would you have to spend before it needed to be drastic?
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@Jaloopa said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
much would you have to spend before it needed to be drastic?
I have a $90 mouse that's kinda cool and a $1000 smart phone that pisses me off daily. Spending a few bucks on the core tools of my trade is something I expect to do.
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@blakeyrat said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
Because mechanical keyboards suck ass?
Pfft. They make other ones than the Model M-for-"murders-your-coworkers-ears", you know. A keyboard with Cherry MX Browns beats the hell out of any rubber-dome design.
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@accalia You forgot "you don't have to bottom out the key travel" either, which is nicer on your fingertips.
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@blakeyrat said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
Do you also sell a magical rock that keeps away tigers?
I do. It's $99.95. Guaranteed to keep tigers, elephants, and rabid wombats away. Don't bring it to a zoo, you wiseass, the zookeepers don't like seeing the animals panicked at the back of their exhibits, and even if they didn't care, it'd still be cruel to the animals.
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@FrostCat said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
@accalia You forgot "you don't have to bottom out the key travel" either, which is nicer on your fingertips.
Meh...that's just an added benefit of non-mechanical keyboards to me.
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@blakeyrat said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
You can easily convince me by shilling out $180
- Most people "shell" out.
- You can buy a good mechanical keyboard for half that. Less, sometimes, on sale.
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@mott555 said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
328490uh82y549hapASDF!!!
Finally, someone doesn't forget one of the hallmarks of a proper blakeyrant!
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You know what's awesome is how FrostCat can just drift in here 16 hours later and then we get to have the entire conversation all over again as he slowly reads down the thread.
I love the notifications this produces.
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@Polygeekery said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
I can never not read that as "Keep Ass".
It's a little-known fact that the name is actually is short for "Keep Assorted Passwords", so you're not wrong.
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@dkf said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
I never really got why they are all concentrated in one place.
So people don't have to gallivant all over town looking for the one they want today, I guess?
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@boomzilla said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
Meh...that's just an added benefit of non-mechanical keyboards to me.
If you're the kind of ape who needs to pound they keyboard, then by all means continue.
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@blakeyrat said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
You know what's awesome is how FrostCat can just drift in here 16 hours later and then we get to have the entire conversation all over again as he slowly reads down the thread.
You heard it, folks--Blakey thinks I'm awesome.
I love the notifications this produces.
You're welcome.
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I have a CoolerMaster Storm Quickfire TK with Cherry MX Reds (link). I regret not getting browns, but oh well, I like this thing anyway. It was also over $10 cheaper when I got it.
I think a large part of this really comes down to personal preference. I've never really liked the feel of [most] membrane keyboards, and I really like the feel of a mechanical one.
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@accalia said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
you've just never noticed it because you've never experienced typing on a good keyboard
So, if it indeed is better, I would be happy for a week with the change, and then unhappy with cheap keyboards for the rest of my life? Not a good deal :P
I don't think I ever tried a mechanical keyboard, but the advantages given here are not appealing to me. I don't want to have to press the key deeply, wait for feedback. Just press it as fast as possible and move to next one.
I use Logitech K120 for 10$ and am fully satisfied.
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@Adynathos said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
and then unhappy with cheap keyboards for the rest of my life?
No, because you'd be smart enough to stop buying cheap keyboards {every 6 months because you're wearing them out,suffering because you won't replace they wear out}
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@Adynathos said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
I don't want to have to press the key deeply, wait for feedback.
The point of mechanical keyboards is that, unlike the rubber dome style, you DON'T press all the way down. The feedback is you can feel when the key activates and release halfway down.
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@FrostCat said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
you DON'T press all the way down.
And? It's not like the travel on a normal keyboard is particularly far. Nor am I smashing the keys down.
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@Adynathos said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
I don't want to have to press the key deeply
you don't need to do that with a mechanical keyboard. you don't need to come even close to bottoming the key out like you do with a membrane switch.
in fact if you are regularly bottoming out the keys you are typing too hard on a mechanical keyboard.
@Adynathos said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
wait for feedback
what waiting for feedback? the tactile feedback is instant, you feel the instant the key is activated. that's the entire point of the tactile feedback.
@Adynathos said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
So, if it indeed is better,
it is.
@Adynathos said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
I would be happy for a week with the change
why only happy for a week? if you got a mechanical keyboard you would be happy with it for years on end!
@Adynathos said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
and then unhappy with cheap keyboards for the rest of my life?
an unfortunate bystander, caught up in the crossfire by a vastly superior keyboard.
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@loopback0 said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
And? It's not like the travel on a normal keyboard is particularly far. Nor am I smashing the keys down.
It's a free country, more or less. Keep typing through oatmeal if you like. The nice thing is that, since you don't know what you're missing, you're not aware of how awful your experience is.
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@FrostCat said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
you'd be smart enough to stop buying cheap keyboards {every 6 months because you're wearing them out
Who are these people who destroy a keyboard in 6 months? Most of the times I've had to replace a keyboard has been either the cord going or spilling sugary coffee on it and ruining the PCB.
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@accalia said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
why only happy for a week? if you got a mechanical keyboard you would be happy with it for years on end!
Think about who you're talking to. He'd probably spill his appletini on it and is too cheap to buy another good one, so it's back to the $5 Dell "special".
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@accalia said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
why only happy for a week?
Because after about that long it becomes the norm, and rather than "my awesome new keyboard" it's just "my keyboard". But typing on a co worker's keyboard will forever be "my coworker's shitty keyboard".
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@FrostCat said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
The nice thing is that, since you don't know what you're missing, you're not aware of how awful your experience is.
Yes, it's unpossible that someone could just be happy with normal keyboards.
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@loopback0 said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
it's unpossible that someone could just be happy with normal keyboards
I imagine that's why there are so few membrane keyboards out there and people never manage to do a job that involves a lot of typing without using mechanical ones.
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@Jaloopa said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
Who are these people who destroy a keyboard in 6 months?
I dunno, but I hear it happens. More seriously, my experience with your typical Dell special is that after a year they're pretty clapped out, half the letters are worn off, etc. My mechanical, which I've had for 2.5 years or so now, I've worn about half the letter away on the A and S keys, and that's it, although all the ones I type on a lot are kind of shiny, as the texturing on the keycaps has worn down.
All I can say is that apparently I was one of those people who hit the keys fairly hard an didn't even realize it, until I got my mechanical keyboard, and my fingers started feeling better after a few days.
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@Jaloopa said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
Because after about that long it becomes the norm
that..... that doesn't make sense.
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@loopback0 said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
Yes, it's unpossible that someone could just be happy with normal keyboards.
It's more like, someone who was gelded at birth thinks he doesn't miss sex. How would he know?
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@accalia said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
that..... that doesn't make sense.
I semi-regularly type on a regular keyboard at work, on another machine, in addition to my mechanical keyboard, so I have a constant comparison. It helps to remind me that I never get blase about the better experience.
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@Magus said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
@mott555 said in Dev tools worth buying for myself?:
The only dev tool I bought for myself at work is a mechanical keyboard.
Wait, what's wrong with me, why have I not done this yet... Another K70 isnt even expensive...
Meh, I jumped on the mechanical keyboard bandwagon a while ago. Did the research, picked out the kind of cherry switches I liked the best, and got the keyboard, and ... eh. Long term using it, I feel like the softer membrane keyboards are actually easier on my hands. I did notice I could type faster with my mechanical keyboard, but it just isn't THAT big of a deal for me. I bounce back and forth between my membrane and mechanical one, depending how my hands are feeling that day (doesn't help that I also write, and play guitar, so my left hand especially is pretty much ALWAYS pissed off at me )
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@accalia said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
that..... that doesn't make sense.
You get used to what you usually have. After a while you forget what you used to have and your new situation is the baseline. Any happiness gain (unless the old situation was causing noticable unhappiness, which we've already established is not the case) is temporary
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@Vaire said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
picked out the kind of cherry switches I liked the best, and got the keyboard, and ... eh. Long term using it, I feel like the softer membrane keyboards are actually easier on my hands
Which did you pick? The whole reason I went red was that they activate the earliest, and are the most smooth.
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@Magus said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
@Vaire said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
picked out the kind of cherry switches I liked the best, and got the keyboard, and ... eh. Long term using it, I feel like the softer membrane keyboards are actually easier on my hands
Which did you pick? The whole reason I went red was that they activate the earliest, and are the most smooth.
I got the sampler kit and decided on the Browns after feeling them all. The reds were smooth and not clicky, the browns were smooth and not clicky, and the little actuation bump -- and liked the bump :D
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@Adynathos said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
I use Logitech K120 for 10$ and am fully satisfied.
Actually, I kind of miss the volume buttons.
@Jaloopa said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
Who are these people who destroy a keyboard in 6 months? Most of the times I've had to replace a keyboard has been either the cord going or spilling sugary coffee on it and ruining the PCB.
Wait until your daughter starts using it. Yeah, it will be mostly the spillage type ruination.
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@boomzilla said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
Wait until your daughter starts using it. Yeah, it will be mostly the spillage type ruination.
Good job I use £10 membranes rather than £100 mechanicals then
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@accalia
Your enthusiasm makes me indeed curious to try such a keyboard, if I manage to find it and distinguish from the usual ones.@boomzilla said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
Actually, I kind of miss the volume buttons.
I mapped volume up/down to
CTRL + PageUp
/CTRL + PageDown
, and Previous / Play / Next toCTRL + Num4 / Num5 / Num6
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@boomzilla said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
Actually, I kind of miss the volume buttons.
My volume controls are on the speaker, where they belong!
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@Jaloopa said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
Good job I use £10 membranes rather than £100 mechanicals then
my mechanical can go in the dishwasher to fix all but the most corrosive spillages.
@Adynathos said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
Your enthusiasm makes me indeed curious to try such a keyboard
you should! it's totally worth it.
if you don't want to buy one outright find someone in your area that has a mechanical keyboard and ask them if you can use their keyboard for a while. they'll probably be happy to let you use it for a while to try it out.
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@mott555 said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
My volume controls are on the speaker, where they belong!
I have too much crap on my desk to easily get to the volume knob for that.
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@accalia said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
corrosive spillages
I've seen what my cute darling baby can produce. Corrosive is just the beginning
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@Jaloopa unless she can produce hydrochloric acid instead of the usual urea my keyboard can take it.
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@accalia If you fancy a laugh, search Youtube for videos of dads changing nappies (diapers for you left-pondians).
Mostly I think they're making a fuss over nothing but I can see if you don't change them regularly it might come as a shock.
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@Jaloopa said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
@accalia If you fancy a laugh, search Youtube for videos of dads changing nappies
if you fancy seeing me vomit and/or faint suggest i perform such an operation.
I'm well aware that such a thing is necessary, but i'm also well aware that i am aunt material more than mother material and even then after they're potty trained.
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@Jaloopa said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
@accalia If you fancy a laugh, search Youtube for videos of dads changing nappies (diapers for you left-pondians).
Mostly I think they're making a fuss over nothing but I can see if you don't change them regularly it might come as a shock.There is one important factor that video does not yet convey: smell. Trust me, open some of those things up and you're struggling to stay conscious. The reactions help. And they (sometimes) entertain the kid.
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@accalia said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
@Jaloopa said in Mechanical keyboards, now available at food trucks:
Good job I use £10 membranes rather than £100 mechanicals then
my mechanical can go in the dishwasher to fix all but the most corrosive spillages.
Wait, what? The keycaps and case might survive without harm if the drying cycle doesn't reach 100 ºC (they might not melt when higher but spacebars tend to get warped), but the electronics will for sure be ruined.