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@Kamil-Podlesak said in In other news today...:
@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
@Zecc said in In other news today...:
waist-deep
:sad_but_relieved_face:
I do wonder what temperature the chocolate was at, but apparently they were unhurt, so.
Considering the quality of chocolate used in mass-market candy, the chocolate was probably unhurt, too.
Fun fact: in EU, the stuff cannot be legally labelled as chocolate at all (35% of cocoa mass is required). The usual term is something like "chocolate-like confectionery"
Funnier fact: the rule above has one exception, for UK (of course). Well, actually, it does not anymore.
White chocolate only need 20% cocoa butter. But that might not quite be regarded chocolate though.
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@Carnage said in In other news today...:
@Kamil-Podlesak said in In other news today...:
@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
@Zecc said in In other news today...:
waist-deep
:sad_but_relieved_face:
I do wonder what temperature the chocolate was at, but apparently they were unhurt, so.
Considering the quality of chocolate used in mass-market candy, the chocolate was probably unhurt, too.
Fun fact: in EU, the stuff cannot be legally labelled as chocolate at all (35% of cocoa mass is required). The usual term is something like "chocolate-like confectionery"
Funnier fact: the rule above has one exception, for UK (of course). Well, actually, it does not anymore.
White chocolate only need 20% cocoa butter. But that might not quite be regarded chocolate though.
It's not chocolate. It needs to be destroyed. Send it to me!
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Just saw it on CodeProject's "Insider News": another way for bugs to enter an
Apple
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@dkf said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
Apparently Atom (a text editor I use) is dead.
There was no will left to maintain it, given that most of the people who used to do that have moved on to VSCode.
@Arantor said in In other news today...:
@dkf not to mention that Microsoft has a vested interest in not having yet another editor it is paying for.
That was also one of the given reasons why it was being cancelled.
Whelp, time to see if VS Code is any better. Not like my installation of Atom is anything to cry about losing anyways...
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No report on whether it was spiky or purple:
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Looks like this webslinger had a literal crash:
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@PleegWat said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
Vim. And Emacs.
Hedging his bets in a religious war? Guy's got balls.
Or a complete lack thereof.
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@JBert said in In other news today...:
No report on whether it was spiky or purple:
Some people hide their guns from the ATF, other people hide their sex toys from their ultra conservative inlaws. Boating accidents are truly multipurpose!
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Good luck, my dude...
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@acrow said in In other news today...:
San Francisco apparently isn't one of the cities with the gunshot locator microphone system. So the cops are baffled over what's causing the noises. ...
So anybody in roughly the right area with a couple of sound recorders and a handful of microphones could triangulate the source in just a couple of days.
The Minnesota Sheriff whose YouTube channel I follow frequently laments his jurisdiction's lack of ShotSpotter. The politicians who allocate money don't want it, for some unfathomable reason. Instead, they have to rely on citizen reports of "I heard some gunshots [but maybe they were fireworks]. I'm not sure what direction they came from, but they sounded kinda far away." Such precision.
A few months ago, a woman was shot in her car. Drive-by, in the middle of an intersection. 10–15 minutes later, a call came in for a "slumper". Slumpers may be medical problems, but usually they're just homeless or druggies sleeping in a car, so they're not high-priority calls. IIRC, there were no calls about gunfire at that location. When officers finally arrived at the scene, the woman was still alive, but she later died. If officers had responded promptly to a gunfire report, she might have received medical attention in time to save her life.
And a local anti-ShotSpotter politician praised the great job their "human ShotSpotters" do.
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
The Minnesota Sheriff whose YouTube channel I follow frequently laments his jurisdiction's lack of ShotSpotter. The politicians who allocate money don't want it, for some unfathomable reason.
I've never heard of such a thing before, and it sounds a bit dystopian. But then, different requirements I guess...
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
The Minnesota Sheriff whose YouTube channel I follow frequently laments his jurisdiction's lack of ShotSpotter. The politicians who allocate money don't want it, for some unfathomable reason.
I've never heard of such a thing before, and it sounds a bit dystopian. But then, different requirements I guess...
Gunshots occur at a characteristic volume and frequency range. You'd need to use significantly different technology to eavesdrop on conversations.
Other than that, what's dystopian about automating the process of "We heard an explosion in such-and-such area. Let's send a cop to check it out."?
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@GuyWhoKilledBear said in In other news today...:
Gunshots occur at a characteristic volume and frequency range. ... "We heard an explosion in such-and-such area.
ShotSpotter can not only pinpoint the location and distinguish between gunfire and fireworks, it can determine the the type and caliber of the weapon, whether it's moving (at vehicular speed), and in what direction. And report all that to the police dispatcher in, IIRC, about 30 seconds or so. (With what accuracy it can determine those details, I don't know.)
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not having so many guns going of? but that only seems to work in the rest of the world
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It can also be used to frame people, so thats cool too.
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@Luhmann said in In other news today...:
not having so many guns going of? but that only seems to work in the rest of the world
I understand why guns being fired illegally isn't desirable. But dystopian?
Especially since the idea of ShotSpotter is that you use it in areas where there's a lot of suspected illegal gun use. The point is to send a cop there so that of the gunshots are part of a crime, the cop can arrest the criminal.
Oh, and if you get caught using a gun to commit a crime, the government takes away your guns.
ShotSpotter is a tool for reducing the number of guns that go off.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
Status: Apparently Atom (a text editor I use) is dead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGMl8c0Cmzs
What does he suggest to replace it?
Vim. And Emacs.
Yeah no.
Why not it's rewrite, vscode? . I mean it's basically the same, using the same technology, but slightly better optimized and with better interface for plugins.
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@Bulb
Because the rewrite doesn't drive search revenue for "how to exit vim"
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@GuyWhoKilledBear shit, I thought ShotSpotter was a random throwaway plot on Person of Interest, I didn’t realise it was a real thing.
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@Arantor said in In other news today...:
@GuyWhoKilledBear shit, I thought ShotSpotter was a random throwaway plot on Person of Interest, I didn’t realise it was a real thing.
No, it's a real thing.
The implementation I've seen (in 2008) has multiple microphones on the same shaft so you can triangulate a location from a single site.
Of course, the implementation you'd see in a city which was already well established at that time, would have multiple towers spread around the city so you'd be able to get an more accurate location because you're triangulating with more microphones.
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@Dragoon said in In other news today...:
It can also be used to frame people, so thats cool too.
It's 1) a notification to police that gunshots have occurred, and 2) merely a single piece of evidence that a crime may have occurred. It does nothing to identify the shooter or explain the circumstances. If police or prosecutors are misusing that evidence to frame someone who didn't commit a crime, that's a police/prosecutor problem, not a ShotSpotter problem.
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
@GuyWhoKilledBear said in In other news today...:
Gunshots occur at a characteristic volume and frequency range. ... "We heard an explosion in such-and-such area.
ShotSpotter can not only pinpoint the location and distinguish between gunfire and fireworks, it can determine the the type and caliber of the weapon, whether it's moving (at vehicular speed), and in what direction. And report all that to the police dispatcher in, IIRC, about 30 seconds or so. (With what accuracy it can determine those details, I don't know.)
Isn't shotspotter all sorts of shit with lots of false positives and negatives? Or is that another of those systems?
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@JBert said in In other news today...:
No report on whether it was spiky or purple:
Don't stick your dick in that?
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@Bulb said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
Status: Apparently Atom (a text editor I use) is dead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGMl8c0Cmzs
What does he suggest to replace it?
Vim. And Emacs.
Yeah no.
Why not it's rewrite, vscode? . I mean it's basically the same, using the same technology, but slightly better optimized and with better interface for plugins.
It'S nOt FoSs,1!1!!!
Or at least, I presume.
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@Carnage said in In other news today...:
Isn't shotspotter all sorts of shit with lots of false positives and negatives?
I don't know. I know what it does, but not how well it does it. But ISTM the error rate must be lower than human ears.
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
@Dragoon said in In other news today...:
It can also be used to frame people, so thats cool too.
It's 1) a notification to police that gunshots have occurred, and 2) merely a single piece of evidence that I crime may have occurred. It does nothing to identify the shooter or explain the circumstances. If police or prosecutors are misusing that evidence to frame someone who didn't commit a crime, that's a police/prosecutor problem, not a ShotSpotter problem.
Wow, a rapidly supplied ordered list of palliatives and a variation on "guns don`t x, people x" - yeah this will be used to violate the shit out of some civil rights.
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
@Carnage said in In other news today...:
Isn't shotspotter all sorts of shit with lots of false positives and negatives?
I don't know. I know what it does, but not how well it does it. But ISTM the error rate must be lower than human ears.
Yeah, untrained hominids are crap at that stuff.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
@Bulb said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
Status: Apparently Atom (a text editor I use) is dead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGMl8c0Cmzs
What does he suggest to replace it?
Vim. And Emacs.
Yeah no.
Why not it's rewrite, vscode? . I mean it's basically the same, using the same technology, but slightly better optimized and with better interface for plugins.
It'S nOt FoSs,1!1!!!
Or at least, I presume.
VS Code is both free and open source
edit: also it's actually good.
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@Carnage said in In other news today...:
@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
@Carnage said in In other news today...:
Isn't shotspotter all sorts of shit with lots of false positives and negatives?
I don't know. I know what it does, but not how well it does it. But ISTM the error rate must be lower than human ears.
Yeah, untrained hominids are crap at that stuff.
If addressed early enough, significant ear motility can be recovered. Otherwise, by about 7 even promising specimens can no longer aim their ears properly. And of course the majority of people lose that lottery entirely.
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@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
@Bulb said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
Status: Apparently Atom (a text editor I use) is dead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGMl8c0Cmzs
What does he suggest to replace it?
Vim. And Emacs.
Yeah no.
Why not it's rewrite, vscode? . I mean it's basically the same, using the same technology, but slightly better optimized and with better interface for plugins.
It'S nOt FoSs,1!1!!!
Or at least, I presume.
VS Code is both free and open source
edit: also it's actually good.
I'll have to try it I guess. Maybe it will actually have useful suggestions for the PHP and HTML files....
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@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
I'll have to try it I guess. Maybe it will actually have useful suggestions for the PHP and HTML files....
There's a pretty decent choice of addons for all sorts of languages above its native support, plus stuff like Remote SSH.
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Considering it's built in JS and on that Electron crap, it performs surprisingly decently.
You can still pry Sublime from my cold dead hands first though.
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While the primary culprit is certainly the DA/Police ShotSpotter isn't entirely without blame as well.
Also, from Chicago:
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@Arantor said in In other news today...:
You can still pry Sublime from my cold dead hands first though.
I used to use it alongside Sublime until our internal software licensing team figured out I didn't have a license for Sublime. Now I use VS Code for everything on my laptop (I've got full Visual Studio on my Windows desktop) and haven't missed Sublime once.
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@loopback0 I do have a licence for Sublime (both Text + Merge), and I have a bunch of stuff I've written as custom extensions. I could port all that to VS Code but... eh.
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@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
@Bulb said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
Status: Apparently Atom (a text editor I use) is dead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGMl8c0Cmzs
What does he suggest to replace it?
Vim. And Emacs.
Yeah no.
Why not it's rewrite, vscode? . I mean it's basically the same, using the same technology, but slightly better optimized and with better interface for plugins.
It'S nOt FoSs,1!1!!!
Or at least, I presume.
VS Code is both free and open source
edit: also it's actually good.
According to the video above, only “Codium” is actually FOSS.
Not sure if that’s the official name or he made that up, and at this point I’m too afraid to ask.
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Holy shit would this have been bad news for me:
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
According to the video above, only “Codium” is actually FOSS.
I've not seen the video, but a quick Google suggests that Codium is just binaries built from the vscode repo but not built by Microsoft.
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both the host and guest were CEOs of "data harvesters that package and resell data to other parties."
So yeah, scum with utter antipathy for personal privacy or workers' rights.
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@loopback0 the video said something that official MS build is not free. No idea if that means they have extra code, like Google, or if it’s just some trademark stuff and an installer, or something irrelevant like that.
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
@Bulb said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
Status: Apparently Atom (a text editor I use) is dead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGMl8c0Cmzs
What does he suggest to replace it?
Vim. And Emacs.
Yeah no.
Why not it's rewrite, vscode? . I mean it's basically the same, using the same technology, but slightly better optimized and with better interface for plugins.
It'S nOt FoSs,1!1!!!
Or at least, I presume.
VS Code is both free and open source
edit: also it's actually good.
According to the video above, only “Codium” is actually FOSS.
Not sure if that’s the official name or he made that up, and at this point I’m too afraid to ask.
The VS Code source code is released under an MIT license. I thought that counted as FOSS.
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@Zenith Even beyond the horrifically Big Brother vibes, it doesn't even sound like it would be useful.
- Performance is really really hard to actually objectively measure. Both because coming up with metrics is hard and not gaming metrics is hard.
- Metrics don't translate between jobs and don't actually give confidence at the next job. I was a sucky back-stock boy at Sears in High School. That same summer, after being let go from Sears (probably for crappy performance), I was great as a night-maintenance guy at a local hotel.
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
@loopback0 the video said something that official MS build is not free. No idea if that means they have extra code, like Google, or if it’s just some trademark stuff and an installer, or something irrelevant like that.
It's definitely free and on Mac at least doesn't have an installer, but yeah I suspect the difference is stuff that only matters if you're the sort of person that'd recommend Vim or Emacs instead.
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@GuyWhoKilledBear said in In other news today...:
@topspin said in In other news today...:
@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
@Bulb said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
Status: Apparently Atom (a text editor I use) is dead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGMl8c0Cmzs
What does he suggest to replace it?
Vim. And Emacs.
Yeah no.
Why not it's rewrite, vscode? . I mean it's basically the same, using the same technology, but slightly better optimized and with better interface for plugins.
It'S nOt FoSs,1!1!!!
Or at least, I presume.
VS Code is both free and open source
edit: also it's actually good.
According to the video above, only “Codium” is actually FOSS.
Not sure if that’s the official name or he made that up, and at this point I’m too afraid to ask.
The VS Code source code is released under an MIT license. I thought that counted as FOSS.
The purists say no, because it's not copyleft and allows direct commercialization . But the FOSS purists are insane, so....
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@Benjamin-Hall said in In other news today...:
@GuyWhoKilledBear said in In other news today...:
@topspin said in In other news today...:
@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
@Bulb said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
Status: Apparently Atom (a text editor I use) is dead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGMl8c0Cmzs
What does he suggest to replace it?
Vim. And Emacs.
Yeah no.
Why not it's rewrite, vscode? . I mean it's basically the same, using the same technology, but slightly better optimized and with better interface for plugins.
It'S nOt FoSs,1!1!!!
Or at least, I presume.
VS Code is both free and open source
edit: also it's actually good.
According to the video above, only “Codium” is actually FOSS.
Not sure if that’s the official name or he made that up, and at this point I’m too afraid to ask.
The VS Code source code is released under an MIT license. I thought that counted as FOSS.
The purists say no, because it's not copyleft and allows direct commercialization
I don’t think that’s true (although speaking for everyone never works out). Maybe they don’t call it FLOSS or whatever, and advocate in favor of copy-left, but they still call it free. The FSF lists MIT as a free license (actually, they’re pedantic here and have two licenses “commonly called MIT”, which they thus discourage calling so due to potential confusion, both of which are listed as free.)
But the FOSS purists are insane
is certainly insane and the solutions he offers are completely unrealistic, but the problems he describes or predicts have this tendency to always become real.
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@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
@topspin said in In other news today...:
@loopback0 the video said something that official MS build is not free. No idea if that means they have extra code, like Google, or if it’s just some trademark stuff and an installer, or something irrelevant like that.
It's definitely free and on Mac at least doesn't have an installer, but yeah I suspect the difference is stuff that only matters if you're the sort of person that'd recommend Vim or Emacs instead.
Can confirm. I recommend
vi
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