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@Tsaukpaetra I'm allowed to record his impression, but it would potentially render me liable if I were to tell you.
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
Accept cookies or no access. , HuffPo.
If you click Manage you can turn them all off.
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@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
If you click Manage you can turn them all off.
.. until the next time you visit. When you'll have to go through that dance all over again.
As you do with every other site that does this theater.
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@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
If you click Manage you can turn them all off.
Not exactly. I did that. What that page says is that you can tell HuffPo not to share your data with (pages and pages of) advertising and analytics partners, but nowhere does it say (that I could find, anyway) that they won't set the cookies anyway, just in case you someday forget to disable sharing.
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@sockpuppet7 Too soon to do a Kickstarter for suicide booths? Or too late already?
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@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
[Picture of article]
This is what's wrong with society!
Filed under: Screenshots of screens shared of screenshots
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@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
Why use Chemist if you meant Pharmacy? Is this another one of those "Other pondian" things?
Yes, that's exactly what it is. The British version of "drugstore."
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@Tsaukpaetra I was thinking more about the part where she complained that she couldn't show on social media that she put a lot of money into her daughter's birthday party. Because it's obviously about showing off rather than making your girl have a good time.
Also, "of course that's a thing":
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@sockpuppet7 said in In other news today...:
Reading the article, they simulated a neural net that represented 1% of a brain. So simulating one second of human brain activity of a whole brain would take 100 times longer (assuming that it scaled linearly, which it probably wouldn't since the number of interconnecting neurons probably doesn't scale linearly).
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@anotherusername Yeah, it scales at least power-law (N^2, N^3, N^pi, etc).
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http://www.kuow.org/post/modern-seattle-building-doesn-t-have-ac-purpose
The building I work in was built without AC "on purpose". I'm sure it was very energy efficient.
They retrofitted it to add AC when literally every occupant threatened to burn their lease and leave.
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@blakeyrat In Phoenix, you can get a ticket for driving a car without air conditioning.
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@da-Doctah I'm glad I don't live in Phoenix. And not because I'd get a ticket.
120 degree real temperatures just aren't my thing.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in In other news today...:
@anotherusername Yeah, it scales at least power-law (N^2, N^3, N^pi, etc).
Can you elaborate? That doesn't sound reasonable to me - the number of all possible interconnections between two neurons is only N² / 2. And AFAIK neurons are only going to be connected to other neurons in the same region, so the number of actual interconnections would be more likely to scale as kN where 2k is the average number of interconnections per neuron.
According to Wiki the human brain has around 10^11 neurons and around 10^14-10^15 synapses (the latter being a childhood estimate; estimates for the adult brain go up to 5x10^14). It also says the average ratio is around 7,000.
This experiment had 1.7x10^9 neurons and 10^13 synapses. So the 1% figure is roughly correct for both neurons and synapses. In fact, it looks like it's actually closer to 2%, even. So yes, linear scaling seems to be applicable. But I'm willing to be corrected by those with more knowledge of the domain.
@anotherusername said in In other news today...:
120 degree real temperatures
It's not real temperatures unless it's in °C (or K).
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@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
TRWTF (emphasis added):
"I thought it would be something like a horse with an elephant's tusk nailed to its head."
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@Boner I saw someone who must have been ninety at a rave I went to. Some people just really like music.
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@Scarlet_Manuka Troof. Nailing things to a horse is wrong.
Use screws, that way you can switch it back to a regular horse easier. Or switch it to a bull, for budget bullfights.
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@Gribnit said in In other news today...:
@Scarlet_Manuka Troof. Nailing things to a horse is wrong.
Use screws, that way you can switch it back to a regular horse easier. Or switch it to a bull, for budget bullfights.
There is value in versatility.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in In other news today...:
@anotherusername Yeah, it scales at least power-law (N^2, N^3, N^pi, etc).
It's not as straightforward as that at all. The level of connectivity varies widely between brain regions (it's crazy high in the cerebellum, for example, but much lower in the early stages of the auditory pathway, and I forget what it's like in the cortex) but there's very much a limit on just how connected things are; it's most definitely not all-to-all connectivity (and you wouldn't be able to think at all if it was). Also, there's additional complexity not in the NEST simulation they were running (which only has connection weight plasticity, but no synaptogenesis or neurogenesis) which didn't matter here — one second of simulated time isn't very long, even if it takes a while at 2400× slow-down — but which matters a lot for almost all of the key questions that people want to ask about the brain. (Little things like how do the different types of learning work, and just what is going on with the sense of self.)
Why yes, this is an area I know a lot about.
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@dkf said in In other news today...:
Why yes, this is an area I know a lot about.
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@Scarlet_Manuka said in In other news today...:
the number of all possible interconnections between two neurons is only N² / 2
No, because there can be (and are!) multiple connections between two neurons. And the two connections can have different physical properties (approximately different weights and decay constants on the exponential potential; they may also be at different points on the dendrite), so you can't optimise that into a single one.
AFAIK neurons are only going to be connected to other neurons in the same region,
Mostly true… but definitely not wholly! The long range connections are important precisely because they mean that the brain functions as a whole and not just a bunch of disparate bits.
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@dkf said in In other news today...:
at 2400× slow-down
I've just looked again at the article and it is from 2014. That simulator software is better than that article reports now (I believe they've squeezed about an order of magnitude speedup out of the software and hardware is better too), but they're still really struggling with the scaling and aren't really able to get deeply into the more complex forms of plasticity.
Our hardware/software solution can run much faster (we're able to run in real-time if we don't want much numerical accuracy — robotics control doesn't really need it, as the control systems need to be self-correcting anyway — but most of the time we run at 10× slowdown to get accurate results) and should scale up to that sort of scale or above, but it's a challenging ask as it's a supercomputer made of a shit-ton of embedded processors. And will require lots of money to build out.
And that brings me back to my current project: reworking the control software to not be so full of Python suck.
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@Scarlet_Manuka said in In other news today...:
"Obviously, the solution is to block blockchains. Then we can chain blockchainers. If we can chain blockchainers via their blockchains, we can chain our chainings by chaining blockchains, which we have blocked. And we can chain block blockchains by chaining blockchain chain blockchainers."
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@djls45 You forgot a "yo dawg" ref...
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@anotherusername said in In other news today...:
@sockpuppet7 said in In other news today...:
Reading the article, they simulated a neural net that represented 1% of a brain. So simulating one second of human brain activity of a whole brain would take 100 times longer (assuming that it scaled linearly, which it probably wouldn't since the number of interconnecting neurons probably doesn't scale linearly).
And even at that it's only a model of a neural net that they think represents how the brain works, so it's already pretty abstract.
This could be the correct model, or it could be too simplified. To figure out (by simulation only) if that's true or there's more to it, they'd have to actually physically model the brain. And depending on how much detail you put into that (you can always make it too complex to simulate), you'd probably struggle with simulating a single neuron already.
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@loopback0 After reading that blurb, I think that there being a donkey with a dildo taped to its head is the least wrong thing about the whole situation. :-/
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@pie_flavor said in In other news today...:
@Boner I saw someone who must have been ninety at a rave I went to. Some people just really like music.
There were people with walkers in the audience at the last Ozzy Osbourne concert I went to.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
Tweet @pie_flavor linked said in In other news today...:
"Milk Shake"
WHO DOES THAT?!?!?
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
@pie_flavor said in In other news today...:
Raising children in general is worth benefits.
Raising children in a stable household is worth much more.Give tax breaks for children then.
Just an idea, you don't have to agree with it.We do that in the USA too.
But would it be fair to not allow even a partial such benefit for couples that would normally be able to have kids but can't for some reason?
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@dkf said in In other news today...:
And that brings me back to my current project: reworking the control software to not be so full of Python suck.
What kind of suck are you refilling it with?
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@mott555 said in In other news today...:
@pie_flavor said in In other news today...:
@Boner I saw someone who must have been ninety at a rave I went to. Some people just really like music.
There were people with walkers in the audience at the last Ozzy Osbourne concert I went to.
Ozzy Osbourne will turn 70 this December.
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@mott555 Huh. Not onstage? Ozzy using an exoskeleton under his clothes now?
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@djls45 said in In other news today...:
@topspin said in In other news today...:
@pie_flavor said in In other news today...:
Raising children in general is worth benefits.
Raising children in a stable household is worth much more.Give tax breaks for children then.
Just an idea, you don't have to agree with it.We do that in the USA too.
But would it be fair to not allow even a partial such benefit for couples that would normally be able to have kids but can't for some reason?Tangentially related (and any discussion almost certainly belongs in the Garage (Edit: I posted over there, too, so direct discussion there.):
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@dcon said in In other news today...:
@Gribnit said in In other news today...:
@heterodox I answer in pots, because 6 vs 8 vs 12 oz is a lot of ambiguity.
Yeah. It's 2 coffee cups. 6 on the pot.
"On" or "in"? Because those change the meaning in a very important way.
Edit: Ah, I see. It's at the "6" mark on the side of the pot.
And to explain my question:
"In the pot" would refer to the amount of liquid inside the container.
"On the pot" is an old(?) euphemism for sitting on a toilet.
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@djls45 said in In other news today...:
@dcon said in In other news today...:
@Gribnit said in In other news today...:
@heterodox I answer in pots, because 6 vs 8 vs 12 oz is a lot of ambiguity.
Yeah. It's 2 coffee cups. 6 on the pot.
"On" or "in"? Because those change the meaning in a very important way.
At!
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@Tsaukpaetra Of!
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@djls45 said in In other news today...:
@dcon said in In other news today...:
@Gribnit said in In other news today...:
@heterodox I answer in pots, because 6 vs 8 vs 12 oz is a lot of ambiguity.
Yeah. It's 2 coffee cups. 6 on the pot.
"On" or "in"? Because those change the meaning in a very important way.
The water level in the pot is at the "6 cup" mark. This works out to 2 actual cups of coffee (well, actually slightly more by a couple tablespoons).
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@dcon The bastards use a 6oz cup when they mark the pots. You must be using a 20oz travel mug.
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@Boner said in In other news today...:
@Luhmann If he didn't apologise is he even Canadian?
I was more wondering about the sufficient abundance of water in liquid form to be able to splash it.
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@Gribnit said in In other news today...:
@dcon You're correct the answer is beer.
+1 for correct use of "you're."
-1 for fused sentence.
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@djls45 Fused sentence was stylistically correct to convey a statement made in a single breath.
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Sanity? From the NYT? Wow.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/01/style/wellness-industrial-complex.html
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@ben_lubar https://about.usps.com/who-we-are/postal-history/state-abbreviations.htm not new.
Edit: Also, the link from the superscript digit is missing.
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@Gribnit said in In other news today...:
@ben_lubar https://about.usps.com/who-we-are/postal-history/state-abbreviations.htm not new.
You have really good reading comprehension. Has anyone ever told you that?
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@ben_lubar What I do is I read and then do not finish reading before responding. This step is vitally important.
Also I cannot remember the abbreviation for Maine no matter what. I have already forgotten it (I think I get to always remember something else as a tradeoff, but I can't remember what that something else is). So, I was going to look that up no matter what.