WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
I have tried to search for "2024 EasyTouch Keyboard" but cannot find anything that looks like that picture.
However, I did find this
https://www.odpbusiness.com/a/products/629151/
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
This isn't the Nope thread!
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
that key is.... just a macro key for + C..... gawd.....
you know what annoys me more than adding the physical key on the keyboard..... they can't bring themselves to add a new keycode for it so it's an actual key, noooooo it has to be a hardcoded macro key that presses a predefined key combo... it's a microsoft keyboard for a microsoft operating system.... there is LITERALLY no reason they couldn't just add a new keycode. they don't even have to make it a standard code. the USB device specification allows for vendor specific keys already!
and this one is only a two key combo. at least the linked in shortcut was practically all buckybits so it was impressively unlikely anyone had already used that key combo.... how many people are gonna have their keybinds broken because they happened to use + C as a hotkey?
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@Gern_Blaanston well, it says "easy touch", not "easy on the eyes".
If we consider level of atrocity to be a conserved quantity, this must have amazing touch.
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@accalia I read once that standard 101/102 key keyboards have a key which, when pressed, results in 5 separate events being sent. Possibly the pause key, otherwise something in the same row. I can't check because I've got an n-key-rollover keyboard and that at least has a separate scancode for it.
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The Pause key is indeed one of the weirdest ones. When pressed, it sends 6 bytes (
0xE1 0x1D 0x45 0xE1 0x9D 0xC5
). When released, it doesn't send anything:
EDIT: Stack Overflow claims a different, and even longer, sequence (
0xE1 0x14 0x77 0xE1 0xF0 0x14 0xF0 0x77
):
checking which one is right.I think they're from different scan code sets, so both could be correct.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
However, I did find this
https://www.odpbusiness.com/a/products/629151/
Yeah that's for folks who are partially blind and unwilling to learn touch typing.
Hunt-n-peck forever, baby~!
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@HardwareGeek said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
I have tried to search for "2024 EasyTouch Keyboard" but cannot find anything that looks like that picture.
They're from Adesso, makers of fine knockoff peripherals.
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@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
it wants to be a hybrid keyboard for both Mac and PC
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@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
They're from Adesso, makers of fine knockoff peripherals.
Unfortunately, they're the only company I've found that makes left-handed vertical ergonomic mice.
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@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
They're a tiny company; you can't expect their QA to find everything.
Because they don't have any QA.
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@accalia said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@HardwareGeek said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
that key is.... just a macro key for + C..... gawd.....
Isn't it Left Shift-Windows-F23?
and this one is only a two key combo. at least the linked in shortcut was practically all buckybits so it was impressively unlikely anyone had already used that key combo.... how many people are gonna have their keybinds broken because they happened to use + C as a hotkey?
On Windows it should be none; IIRC, use of the Windows key is supposed to be restricted to Microsoft. On other OSes I doubt Microsoft cares.
(If I find the right MSDN link I'll post it; it's hard enough finding anything on my phone, much less a guideline from 1994.)
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@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@remi the thing is, Win10 bucked that trend in a nasty way. Yes, it wasn’t loved at first and got grudgingly accepted. 1809 and 1903 were decent enough builds.
I'm still running 1809. It's a LTSC version and still being regularly updated. I have a feeling I'm going to be hanging onto it right up to the very end, and maybe beyond.
Wait .... is it LTSC (Long Term Support Channel) or is it LTSB (Long Term Support Branch)?? Microsoft still can't make up their mind what to call it.
... unless 12 comes out and undoes a significant amount of the fucktacular bullshit, Win10 will be the last version of Windows for me.
I keep hoping the same thing. Unfortunately, I don't have a lot of confidence that they will. They seem to be going farther and farther in the opposite direction.
I'll boot into Windows 11 occasionally, and I have managed to wrangle it into something almost usable, but it requires third-party programs and registry hacks that aren't needed in Win10.
But remember, Microsoft warned us in 2015, "Windows 10 is the last version of Windows". They just forgot to include the rest of the sentence:
"Windows 10 is the last version of Windows that you'll actually want to use".
Maybe that's why they have decided to just call everything Windows 10:
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@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Really it should be control/ctrl, alt/option, Windows/Cmd as the mappings based on typical key placement.
It should be, and yet on the other side...
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@Gern_Blaanston A couple of people at work got upgraded to 11 recently. (For some reason, they were unable to log into their laptops; after an update, the only available login was Administrator. Apparently, the only way our needful doers could fix this was to reimage the system disk. With 11.) One of them reported today that not only is 11 slow, but non-MS applications (Gmail, Chrome, etc.) are even slower than the general slowness.
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F23
Unfortunately there is no function key approximately 8 inches past the end of my keyboard
e: or fortunately, as I don't want Copilot functionality anyway
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Because they don't have any QA.
They do, they just call them end users
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@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Isn't it Left Shift-Windows-F23?
Oh thank $deity, the "keep awake" script I use depresses the F24 key! 😇😂
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
the "keep awake" script I use depresses
Try getting a good night's sleep.
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@Zerosquare said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
the "keep awake" script I use depresses
Try getting a good night's sleep.
Windows Update will wake you up in the middle of the night.
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Zerosquare said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
the "keep awake" script I use depresses
Try getting a good night's sleep.
Windows Update will wake you up in the middle of the night.
Just to here it say, hey. Your files are right there where you left them!
What a lovely state, such a lovely place.
We're updating your machine with Azure cloudy AI;
Oh what a nice surprise, you'll not believe your eyes!
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So I use Windows 10 in the clouds . Installed an old app for web radio, which can also record a radio program. When I started it, it greeted me with "WMVCore.dll not found". Great!
Lots of shit "swolutions" on the web.
I got it running eventually - downloaded a media pack, installed it, restarted the machine - NOWORX.
Activated the optional Windows Media Player and a related package - NOWORX.
Rebooted.
Works.
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@BernieTheBernie said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
So I use Windows 10 in the clouds .
On a laptop in airplane mode?
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Windows 10 started doing this really weird thing that I have never seen before. I have a bunch of sub-folders under the "My Documents" folder that contain pictures.
When I'm navigating around using Explorer and click on one of those folders that contains pictures, Windows has decided that I want to to see a slide show of all the pictures in that folder and launches Windows Media Player.
After playing around with various settings, I finally just disabled Windows Media Player and that fixed the problem.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Windows has decided that I want to to see a slide show of all the pictures
Microsoft knows better what you want than you do
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
this really weird thing that I have never seen before
Yeah I've literally never seen that behaviour, and I do have legacy Windows Media Player enabled...
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Windows has decided that I want to to see a slide show of all the pictures
Microsoft knows better what you want than you do
Especially at work when is approaching and the folder contains instructional images.
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@BernieTheBernie said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Especially at work when is approaching and the folder contains instructional images.
FTFY
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Microsoft knows better what you want than you do
Worked well enough for Apple, they just want to get in on the ride.
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@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Really it should be control/ctrl, alt/option, Windows/Cmd as the mappings based on typical key placement.
It should be, and yet on the other side...
It was this kind of horseshit that made me expense an Apple keyboard. Also, Lenovo keyboards should be thrown into the sea.
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@DogsB it's fine with a normal Windows keyboard. I used one with a Macbook for years, these days I just use the laptop's keyboard.
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@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@DogsB it's fine with a normal Windows keyboard. I used one with a Macbook for years, these days I just use the laptop's keyboard.
The thing I have is when a Windows laptop cramps the main keyboard off to the side in order to make space for a number pad. I'd rather the home row was made of full size keys and was centred with respect to the screen...
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Link to the GH repo without going to the tracking in TFA.
And from there you can look at the source code to see what registry keys it changes:
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
It's called Linux.
Back to the gulag with you.
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@Zecc I'd complain that this could be done more simply with a plain .reg file. But Toby Faire, at least the README says so.
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@topspin said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Zecc I'd complain that this could be done more simply with a plain .reg file. But Toby Faire, at least the README says so.
I just went to the link in the source code: https://www.elevenforum.com/t/disable-ads-in-windows-11.8004/
Every one of those settings is reachable via the UI. And there's a reg file at that link. So that program just sounds like some UI fluff on top of that...
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@dcon Either way, each step is iteratively "better" by some measure. Reg files are more convenient for power users who know wtf to do with them, and would rather use them than go faffing around 11 different menus to disable each setting, and a unified UI to mass toggle them is better still.
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@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
So that program just sounds like some UI fluff on top of that...
Regedit already is a GUI
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This won’t be the end of it, though.
It’s going to become an arms race because a $3tn company needs MOAR MONEYS.
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@Arantor it’s not an arms race if those are registry settings.
Might be different if it actually blocked things that can’t be disabled via settings.
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@topspin as in, you know there’s going to be more yet, and while this iteration has a UI, the next iteration might not. Might go to registry only, might go to group policy. Might do something else.
But it’s coming.
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The only way the operating system won't be the ultimate winner, if they really want, is for it to not be installed in the first place.
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@Zecc they'd love subscription-based thin clients phoning into Azure-based machines.
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Not a potshot at windows but it is interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uSVVCmOH5w
Windows 98 if you're interested
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Ah, shit, I broke Control Panel > Programs and Features.
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@Arantor Are you channeling your inner @Tsaukpaetra?
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@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
I broke Control Panel > Programs and Features.
Looks fine to me?
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@Arantor Not a single one of the installed programs has any contributing artists? I guess that says a lot about their design.