WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
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No no, this forum abuses Markdumb, you're supposed to bold text by surrounding it with two **asterisks**..
That doesn't really count. Here's a quick guideline on how to tell:
Not bold: something that looks bold, but isn't
Bold: this is the right way to do it****bolded text
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@hungrier At least there's no md5sums of asterisks involved.
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@PleegWat said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@hungrier At least there's no md5sums of asterisks involved.
the md5 of fa-spin works one day a year, though
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@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Captain said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Didn't read the thread. Last couple of posts make it sound like I should keep my laptop's screen shut for a while.
I'll summarize: for about 4 years the group
bitchescomplains about Windows 10 in the way this group tends to do. We make fun of the well-known things, the random problems various folks have had are mentioned, and occasionally someone goes off on a tangent that makes no sense at all and/or spawns off a new thread.Let me guess, you didn't read the thread either and just posted something that would be obviously correct for any thread.
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So now, Win10 users are not only beta-testers, Microsoft even gives them the option to debug their shit for them
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@topspin said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Captain said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Didn't read the thread. Last couple of posts make it sound like I should keep my laptop's screen shut for a while.
I'll summarize: for about 4 years the group
bitchescomplains about Windows 10 in the way this group tends to do. We make fun of the well-known things, the random problems various folks have had are mentioned, and occasionally someone goes off on a tangent that makes no sense at all and/or spawns off a new thread.Let me guess, you didn't read the thread either and just posted something that would be obviously correct for any thread.
Not a bad guess, but sadly I've been following along for most of the thread's existence.
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Status: Windows wanted to know what I do with my computer.
You mean, they don't know???
Clicking it, natch:
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@Tsaukpaetra I got that with both of my Win 10 installs, same exact issue with the feedback hub. It even thinks you're signed out of it until you close and reopen it.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
You mean, they don't know???
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
So now, Win10 users are not only beta-testers, Microsoft even gives them the option to debug their shit for them
They even provide you with debugging symbols!
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@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@aitap If a program is learning from a stupid user will the program still become smarter?
<gasp!> We're driving Windows crazy! That's why it blue screens (and does other weird and "wonderful" things)!
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@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
We're driving Windows crazy! That's why it blue screens (and does other weird and "wonderful" things)!
And it drives us crazy. This feedback loop will end badly.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Status: Windows wanted to know what I do with my computer.
I got the developer one. It popped open a survey asking me what other OSes I've programmed on and whatnot. Hopefully my answers will push them to improve Windows 10's developer experience to match the Commodore 64's.
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Improving by removing
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@TimeBandit
I see they're going to let My People go.
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@Watson said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@TimeBandit
I see they're going to let My People go.Sad news for boardgames community.
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@Watson What will happen to People in the Shell?
Will they become ghosts?
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@levicki it's the same but has a few more features actually. The only thing I'll miss about Snipping Tool is that typing "snip" in the start menu search won't get me to it immediately (yet..)
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@sloosecannon I had pinned snipping tool to the taskbar in order to instantly bring it up with 5, but now that snipping tool is triggered by just hitting print screen
or shift s if you want to keep your print screen for print screening I don't even need that any more.
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@levicki Maybe a god-awful bloated and slow app wouldn't, but the app under discussion that instantly launches is a suitable replacement
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I'm impressed that it can snip itself. I'm not impressed that it completely ignored my setting.
Edit: oh wait, now I paid more attention I get it. With that setting off, it copies the snip to the clipboard, it just won't copy whatever I draw on it. Very useful.
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@hungrier said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@sloosecannon I had pinned snipping tool to the taskbar in order to instantly bring it up with 5, but now that snipping tool is triggered by just hitting print screen I don't even need that any more.
Yeah I've mostly re-learned "Printscr is screenshot" as a replacement for
sni
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@sloosecannon said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@levicki it's the same but has a few more features actually. The only thing I'll miss about Snipping Tool is that typing "snip" in the start menu search won't get me to it immediately (yet..)
I miss the ability to save a screenshot without messing with the clipboard. If there is a way to change this behaviour, I want to know about it.
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@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
only if it has been pre-launched and if it is in the background. Otherwise not so instantly.
False
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@Zecc ctrl-s should work?
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@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
its window is huge and covers things you want to see and capture
It has no window when you're capturing, just a small tab at the top of the screen that disappears as soon as you start dragging your rectangle.
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@Zecc said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@sloosecannon said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@levicki it's the same but has a few more features actually. The only thing I'll miss about Snipping Tool is that typing "snip" in the start menu search won't get me to it immediately (yet..)
I miss the ability to save a screenshot without messing with the clipboard. If there is a way to change this behaviour, I want to know about it.
What about + Print Screen creating a file in
<user>\Pictures\Screenshots
? Could you live with that?Also, if you use + Shift + S you can click the "Snip saved to clipboard" notification to open Snip & Sketch, in that window you can draw on your screen grab and save it to file.
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@hungrier said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
now that snipping tool is triggered by just hitting print screen
It was not?
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@hungrier said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
now that snipping tool is triggered by just hitting print screen
It was not?
No. Print Screen (going back to the early days of Windows) takes a screenshot of the entire screen and puts it in the Clipboard. Alt-Print Screen takes a shot of the current window. It wasn't until recent versions of Windows 10 that they added the option to have Snip and Sketch take over the Print Screen key.
I don't like Snip and Sketch or the Snipping Tool that preceded it, but I've been doing graphics work in my own way for years so I don't feel any need to change. (Also I don't take that many screen shots.)
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@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
There is no Window capture -- either full screen or part of it. You just can't compare Snipping Tool and that .
You choose the type of capture in the little window that comes up after hitting New (or, presumably, when you press Win-Shift-S or Print Screen, case depending). When I was messing with it tonight it was already set to Window capture, but I don't know if that is the actual default.
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@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
I don't know if that is the actual default.
No, it's set to option 1, which is "Rectangular Snip".
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@sloosecannon said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Zecc ctrl-s should work?
To not mess with the clipboard, which was the main point?
I don't have clipboard history turned on.
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@hungrier said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
start dragging your rectangle
That's a new one
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@JBert said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
What about + Print Screen creating a file in
<user>\Pictures\Screenshots
? Could you live with that?I could live with it asking me where to save.
Also, if you use + Shift + S you can click the "Snip saved to clipboard" notification to open Snip & Sketch, in that window you can draw on your screen grab and save it to file.
As I said in my previous post, I'd rather it wouldn't touch my clipboard. Snipping tool lets me press Ctrl+C to copy to clipboard if I want, but I can just save to a file instead (and I get to pick where it's saved). Why can't Snip&Sketch do the same?
In fact, why does S&S have a toolbar button to copy to cliboard if it automatically already does that? Seems like they have thought this through.
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I've submitted feedback to Microsoft, instead of just complaining here. What a strange, novel experience.
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@Zecc said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
As I said in my previous post, I'd rather it wouldn't touch my clipboard.
Oops, I didn't realize "without messing with the clipboard." meant that it shouldn't overwrite the clipboard, I just thought you were saying that having to use the clipboard is bothersome.
But yes, seems all of those new shortcuts overwrite the clipboard.
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I'm genuinely confused... what are you people taking screenshots for that you don't want them to go to the clipboard? I never really thought about it before, but 100% of my screenshot usage has been with the expectation of placing it in the clipboard so I can paste it somewhere. The only time I save a file is if I need to tweak cropping more than what I did anyway and that involves pasting it into my image editor of choice.
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@Zecc said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
I've submitted feedback to Microsoft, instead of just complaining here. What a strange, novel experience.
Don't worry. The end result will be exactly the same.
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@Zecc said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
instead of just complaining here
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@LB_ said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
I'm genuinely confused... what are you people taking screenshots for that you don't want them to go to the clipboard?
I worked remotely via RDP and it's not unusual to want to take a screenshot while not wanting it to interfere with an ongoing copy+paste file transfer.
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Damn it. Forgot to shut my machine down "cleanly" on Friday. When it woke up, VirtualBox was frozen and trying to restart just got me a spinner. Had to do the long press on the power button to force it to shut down.
MAYBE STOP DEVELOPING THE INFINITE SHUTDOWN YOU RETARDS
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@PleegWat I see Gnome, I dislike. I see a friggin Save button in the title bar, I ...
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@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Print Screen (going back to the early days of Windows) takes a screenshot of the entire screen and puts it in the Clipboard. Alt-Print Screen takes a shot of the current window.
Oh, right. I remember now. Show you how much I use Windows.
It wasn't until recent versions of Windows 10 that they added the option to have Snip and Sketch take over the Print Screen key.
Microsoft is still catching up to KDE
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@topspin said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
I see Gnome, I dislike.
In KDE, when I press Print Screen, this tool open with a screenshot of the whole desktop
Area options are:
Note the "Copy to Clipboard" button. It doesn't touch your clipboard until you want it to
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@TimeBandit It's even got the option to include the mouse pointer!
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@Zecc said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
It's even got the option to include the mouse pointer!
Yes, and you don't even have to edit the registry for that
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TRWTF is people who don't use ShareX.
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@pie_flavor said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
TRWTF is people who don't use ShareX.
I prefer Sharea.
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@Zecc said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@sloosecannon said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Zecc ctrl-s should work?
To not mess with the clipboard, which was the main point?
I
dondidn't have clipboard history turned on.Edit: This was supposed to be an edit, but somehow became a quote.