The Official Status Thread
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@Zenith Finally the push I needed to install Firefox...84
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Status: Smoked and cindered. But the view was great.
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@ChaosTheEternal said in The Official Status Thread:
[iBuyPower RMA]
This nightmare keeps on going. So, got the PC, unpacked it, got it standing up and I hear something loose inside rolling around. Find the loose piece and it's this:
Picture #1
That's... probably important. Well, find what it looks most like, and it's this:
Picture #2
A clips for a PCI port. But those two ports, the clips are clearly still there. Which one is mis-
Picture #3
Oh. The PCI port for the video card has a broken clip now. Wonderful. They didn't say it was broken when they got it, and it wasn't broken when I prepped it to ship back, so...
I'm gonna be dealing with this company for a while, it seems. Should've just bought another Alienware, even if the quality may not be "as good" as what these custom builds claim to be able to do, the warranty service is most likely immeasurably better.
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@ChaosTheEternal said in The Official Status Thread:
Should've just bought another Alienware
I always buy I.B.M.
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@TimeBandit said in The Official Status Thread:
I always buy I.B.M.
I don't trust the builder, hence why I don't do that.
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@TimeBandit said in The Official Status Thread:
@ChaosTheEternal said in The Official Status Thread:
Should've just bought another Alienware
I always buy I.B.M.
This is the way. After you:
- spend untold amount of time looking for compatible components
- swap out the one that still wasn't
- pay the blood sacrifice
- power it on and find that it doesn't, figure it out
...you're left with warranty service of five different shops that will require to pull the damn thing apart to RMA it.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in The Official Status Thread:
@TimeBandit said in The Official Status Thread:
@ChaosTheEternal said in The Official Status Thread:
Should've just bought another Alienware
I always buy I.B.M.
This is the way. After you:
- spend untold amount of time looking for compatible components
- swap out the one that still wasn't
- pay the blood sacrifice
- power it on and find that it doesn't, figure it out
...you're left with warranty service of five different shops that will require to pull the damn thing apart to RMA it.
That’s why all IBMs should be in the Intel ecosystem. There’s basically a 1:1 match with CPU generation and motherboard generation, their RAM compatibility works well enough that it doesn’t matter if you get “too fast” of RAM, and the integrated GPUs are bad enough you won’t be tempted.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in The Official Status Thread:
spend untold amount of time looking for compatible components
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@izzion said in The Official Status Thread:
and the integrated GPUs are bad enough you won’t be tempted.
Until the drivers finish baking, the discrete GPUs are also bad enough you won't be tempted.
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@TwelveBaud said in The Official Status Thread:
@izzion said in The Official Status Thread:
and the integrated GPUs are bad enough you won’t be tempted.
Until the drivers finish baking, the discrete GPUs are also bad enough you won't be tempted.
Well, ok, that was my bad. I assumed nobody took Intel GPUs seriously and it was understood that you’d pick / randomize between Nvidia and AMD based on availability.
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Status: I have evil seed.
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Worried. Windows telemetry seems particularly active today, and I'm starting to think the OS might be thinking of forcing unwanted changes on me soon.
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@Zecc I heard rumours that MS were going to “encourage” everyone on Win10 to the last major version of Win10 (22H2) ahead of sunsetting Win10. Not sure it’s been confirmed officially though.
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I always appreciate a neighbor with a loud muscle car starting it at 06:02.
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@HardwareGeek Well, in area with many companies doing metal works, such a guy was a little surprised one morning when he could not start his car. Someone used a machine to press the end of the exhaust tube completely closed. His car had to be towed to the gargae. Deserved him well.
If you use such stupid cars, take your neighborhood into account!
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@Arantor said in The Official Status Thread:
@Zecc I heard rumours that MS were going to “encourage” everyone on Win10 to the last major version of Win10 (22H2) ahead of sunsetting Win10. Not sure it’s been confirmed officially though.
They have a problem: there are consumer machines out there in the wild (I have one) that their own updater refuses to update to Win11. They're going to be stuck with supporting Win10 for a while. Might as well try to get them onto a reasonably recent version.
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@dkf indeed. 22H2 is supported to 2025 while previous versions won’t be.
Turns out my hazy recollection was right - https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-10/microsoft-will-force-all-windows-10-users-to-upgrade-to-version-22h2-next-month
Seems that if you’re on a managed environment you won’t be “encouraged” to move though.
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@ChaosTheEternal said in The Official Status Thread:
The PCI port for the video card has a broken clip now.
More gore. The video card itself has a pin cut.
Picture #4
And a straight shot of the PCI port with the video card removed. So, maybe that clip is replaceable?
Picture #5
But it might not matter. iBuyPower asked me to leave the PC on its side, reseat the video card, then turn it on and verify everything is working. Reseated the video card (hence how I saw the damaged pin) and plugged everything in and turned it on and... no video. The motherboard has video ports, so plug it in there and hey, I get to desktop. Unfortunately, Device Manager doesn't see the video card as a display adapter.
So, either the port is broken, or the video card is broken.
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@ChaosTheEternal said in The Official Status Thread:
The video card itself has a pin cut.
That appears to be pin B81, PRSNT#2 (hot plug present detect), which may be shortened intentionally so that the board is not detected unless it is fully seated in the slot. You can see from the rub marks that it does make contact if it's fully seated.
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@HardwareGeek said in The Official Status Thread:
That appears to [...] be shortened intentionally so that the board is not detected unless it is fully seated in the slot.
Good to know.
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@ChaosTheEternal said in The Official Status Thread:
So, either the port is broken, or the video card is broken.
And, as I somewhat trust the IT guy at the office, I believe this to be the case, since the on-board video works despite a graphics card being plugged in and, from what he is saying, fully seated in the slot despite no retaining clip.
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Starus: Dug out my exercise bike and ordered a new AC adapter since the old one looks iffy. I spent my last night trying to sleep in the bathtub never knowing when Mt St Helens was going to blow again. It was like every time I got relaxed enough to drift off, up came another fireball.
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@Zecc said in The Official Status Thread:
Worried. Windows telemetry seems particularly active today, and I'm starting to think the OS might be thinking of forcing unwanted changes on me soon.
Mine just tried pushing Win11 on 2 different machines. Stop it. I told you that before! Still a couple other machines I need to turn on...
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@HardwareGeek said in The Official Status Thread:
I always appreciate a neighbor with a loud muscle car starting it at 06:02.
My dog solved that issue by waking me up when the sun rises - at 5:30a. That really sucks when my body is still on Hawaii time. (The local muscle car is usually heard around 9p)
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@dcon said in The Official Status Thread:
My dog solved that issue by waking me up when the sun rises - at 5:30a.
Time zones are fun. It was still dark at 06:02 this morning — not pitch-black, but definitely well before sunrise. The internet tells me sunrise was at 06:31 this morning in my location.
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Status: RMA #2 with iBuyPower. This time, I'm waiting for the shipping label, and I'll be shipping it double boxed.
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Status: Was feeling a little sluggish so I decided to drink a jug of ostensibly-stimulants.
That was two hours ago.
I just awoke from an unplanned S5 event.
Filed under: Fuck caffeine
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@HardwareGeek said in The Official Status Thread:
@dcon said in The Official Status Thread:
My dog solved that issue by waking me up when the sun rises - at 5:30a.
Time zones are fun. It was still dark at 06:02 this morning — not pitch-black, but definitely well before sunrise. The internet tells me sunrise was at 06:31 this morning in my location.
In both HI and CA, the sun's rising around 5:30. It setting here just before 8:30, but in HI, it set just after 7:00. Time zones and latitudes are fun.
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@dcon Let me see... Here at 50°N, 8°E, and Central European Summer Time (CEST), it is:
Sonnenaufgang 05:24
Sonnenuntergang 21:27a little more sun in the late evening.
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@BernieTheBernie I'm further north and west, at:
Sunrise: 04:42
Sunset: 21:27Pity the weather's been mostly cloudy recently, making it less than wonderful to take advantage of the long daylight hours.
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Status: Near-fever of 99.9°F. I think technically it needs another 0.1° to be considered a fever, but given the historical accuracy of my thermometer (it almost never reads above roughly normal-1, even when I have symptoms of a fever), my temperature is likely a bit higher than it is reporting.
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@ChaosTheEternal said in The Official Status Thread:
@ChaosTheEternal said in The Official Status Thread:
[iBuyPower RMA]
This nightmare keeps on going. So, got the PC, unpacked it, got it standing up and I hear something loose inside rolling around. Find the loose piece and it's this:
Picture #1
That's... probably important.
Are you sure it's broken or did it just pop off? Some of those retention clips are like that. They're also not required, though you'd rather have it on today's giant video cards until you have to cram a screwdriver down there to get it unhooked so you can remove the card.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in The Official Status Thread:
@TimeBandit said in The Official Status Thread:
@ChaosTheEternal said in The Official Status Thread:
Should've just bought another Alienware
I always buy I.B.M.
This is the way. After you:
- spend untold amount of time looking for compatible components
- swap out the one that still wasn't
- pay the blood sacrifice
- power it on and find that it doesn't, figure it out
...you're left with warranty service of five different shops that will require to pull the damn thing apart to RMA it.
I've had very good luck with the computers I've built over the years, though I don't blame people who would rather not fiddle with putting one together and/or would like to have someone to yell at if it breaks. Thankfully none of my computers from the last decade had any parts break under warranty.
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@Parody I'm burning with envy. I've had bad luck instead, since the very first time I put my own money down for one. It's been dogging me ever since
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@Applied-Mediocrity I had bad luck the first time I tried, back in the days before PnP, and I've shied away from it ever since. That's probably silly today, with PnP and things like pcpartpicker.com, but
and
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@HardwareGeek said in The Official Status Thread:
Status: Near-fever of 99.9°F.
Check that all thermal sensors are connected properly. If it's not that, try cleaning the fans and replacing the thermal paste.
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@HardwareGeek said in The Official Status Thread:
Status: Near-fever of 99.9°F. I think technically it needs another 0.1° to be considered a fever, but given the historical accuracy of my thermometer (it almost never reads above roughly normal-1, even when I have symptoms of a fever), my temperature is likely a bit higher than it is reporting.
101.3°F. I officially have a fever. Yay. I have also officially quit pretending to work today and am attempting to get some rest. There wasn't really much point in continuing to pretend to work today; in addition to the mental fog caused by the fever, my boss is out of the office today, and I kinda need his feedback before proceeding. I could work on a different task, but mental fog.
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Status: Harrisburg WalFart needs an enema or five.
Just the irony of this store getting Star Trek figures while neither the local Targets nor my go-to online shop got their their orders would be bad enough. But this is quite possibly the weirdest combination of understocked, overstocked, and utterly trashed that I’ve seen in a long time. This is right up there with Fall 2005’s river of shit at this same festering hole, where I waded knee deep in Energon Ironhides for the singular Energon Shockblast shipped to the entire tri-county area. I feel like I’ll need two showers just to not ruin my bedsheets.
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@Zenith You think it's bad there, should come up here to the northeast part of the state where it's more likely they'll never receive the items in question!
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@e4tmyl33t The rest of the store was pretty bad too. Everything strewn everywhere, packages ripped open, mysterious stains galore...if I had a sense of smell, I probably would've suffocated. I should've known what was coming a few years ago when they replaced all of the floor tile with lacquered concrete slabs during a "remodel." The place is a zoo. All it's missing is the coin-operated feed dispensers.
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@HardwareGeek said in The Official Status Thread:
back in the days before PnP
ISA IRQ selection PTSD triggered
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@TimeBandit said in The Official Status Thread:
@HardwareGeek said in The Official Status Thread:
back in the days before PnP
ISA IRQ selection PTSD triggered
Current A+ question: which IRQ should you expect to hook for COM2 usage?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
Current A+ question: which IRQ should you expect to hook for COM2 usage?
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@Tsaukpaetra Thankfully, I forgot all of that stuff decades ago, and I don't miss it a bit.
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@HardwareGeek said in The Official Status Thread:
@Tsaukpaetra Thankfully, I forgot all of that stuff decades ago, and I don't miss it a bit.
I personally let it tier down into the Google brain.
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Status: Barely used Firefox 84 and I already want Brave back.
I had Firefox 84, on a work laptop with Windows 10 and 8 GB of RAM, and it was fine. It does not like Windows 7 or having only 4 GB of RAM to hoard. That or the -no-remote flag I've used to keep it from stomping all over a Firefox 24 session.
I can't have more that seven or so tabs in use before it starts flipping out. It "forgets" images and reloads them back in wrong. It can't plan WebMs/WebPs without hyper blurring them. It struggles with honoring "keep me logged in" flags. Brave and FF24 can keep me logged info weeks while 20 minutes is beyond FF84's capabilities.
FF84 has its own task manager for process but it's beyond useless compared to a Chrome-based browser. It's got a CBO-level optimistic accounting of memory and it can't unload tabs without closing them. There are plugins but they're similar all-or-nothing approaches, like suspending-everything-but-current or nothing. How about skipping tabs important enough to be pinned? Oh, some say they do that, but they lie.
No wonder neither of these derpy browsers makes it anything short of torturous to embed their rendering control. If we could, nobody would use their lousy hosting applications.
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@Parody said in The Official Status Thread:
Are you sure it's broken or did it just pop off?
The picture I took but didn't upload then is with that clip flipped over, where you can clearly see the rough plastic interior where the break happened.
Picture #1.5
Also, it's kinda blurry.
I'm also unsure how it would pop out without breaking or being broken while it is holding the video card down.
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status sigh
xcode is updating. All 7.59G of it.