The Official Status Thread
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@groo said in The Official Status Thread:
@Tsaukpaetra I thought tsaukpaetra was based on your real name. How did you come up with this username?
It is.
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@FrostCat said in The Official Status Thread:
@HardwareGeek said in The Official Status Thread:
gave me a working option to reschedule.
*cough* told you.
A few days ago (I'm pretty sure I posted about it, but CBA to search), it said I could reschedule, but there was no button to actually do so. It was scheduled to reboot in the middle of the night, when it would be unplugged, in a bag with no ventilation or network connection. Since it wouldn't let me reschedule (except reboot now), I decided to let it try on schedule and see how badly it failed, but it didn't even try.
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@HardwareGeek said in The Official Status Thread:
but it didn't even try.
Makes sense. Task Scheduler doesn't attempt to catch up on missed events.
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@Tsaukpaetra It would have had to wake the computer, anyway, because no way would it have been awake at 0230 (I think, or whatever time it was scheduled). When it woke, it would probably have connected to WiFi automatically, so it might actually have succeeded in updating, if it could do so before the battery went dead or it overheated. ... Well, except for the fact that I wasn't awake to enter the Bitlocker PIN so it could access the disk. In fact, maybe it did try, but failed to fully wake up because no access to hiberfile.sys, so it just went back to sleep. Or something.
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Status: Apparently I'm the second stage for migrating emails from Dreamhost to Google Apps.
Fun, because I have no idea if it works until DNS propagates...
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STATUS:
$ brew install sshpass Error: No available formula with the name "sshpass" We won't add sshpass because it makes it too easy for novice SSH users to ruin SSH's security.
Fuck you. Just give me the fucking tools and stop trying to nanny me.
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@ben_lubar ok so I installed a new version of the entire OS this forum's server runs on and nobody noticed because the downtime was so short.
Now I'm trying to run bash on Windows (or as they call it, BASH), which is an advertised feature of the update they released today.
Three full system reboots and two and a half hours later, I still haven't gotten to the bash prompt.
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@ben_lubar Have you looked at the “Turn Windows Features On or Off” window?
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@aliceif said in The Official Status Thread:
@ben_lubar Have you looked at the “Turn Windows Features On or Off” window?
Yeah, but in order to install the program that installs the program that downloads the program that I want to run, I needed to reboot a few times.
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@HardwareGeek said in The Official Status Thread:
never seen an ATM that offered a choice of denominations.
That is the norm around here ... most have €20 and €50 but some even offer €5 or €10
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Status: The Ubuntu installer (which was named
Bash.exe
, not to be confused with/bin/bash
, which is actually bash) downloaded an old version of like 80 programs, so I'm updating those. It'd probably be faster to just download the packages once, but you know Microsoft. Why download an up-to-date program when you can get updates for your updates?
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Status: why is it installing updates for cloud-init on a Windows PC in my basement?
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@ben_lubar said in The Official Status Thread:
@ben_lubar ok so I installed a new version of the entire OS this forum's server runs on and nobody noticed because the downtime was so short.
More likely, people sort of expect daily downtimes at this point.
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@ben_lubar said in The Official Status Thread:
ok so I installed a new version of the entire OS this forum's server runs on and nobody noticed because the downtime was so short.
Is that what was going on? Huh.
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WTF is this useless crap doing in my right click menu?
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@blakeyrat said in The Official Status Thread:
@Lorne-Kates I'm just drinking Heineken.
Just drink drain cleaner. It tastes better.
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Status: What is wrong with people.
A collegue has a problem with a series of emails from a major bank. The contain .XLS files and Excel claims they are corrupt. The bank has already said 'your system must have corrupted them, check your virus scanner'.
I opened one up:
<HTML><META http-equiv="content-type" content="application/vnd.ms-excel"/><HEAD><BODY><TABLE> <TR><TD align="left"><B>Title</B></TD><TD colspan="2" align="left">Details of Invoices Charged on 4th August 2016</TD></TR> <TR><TD align="left"><B>Customer</B></TD><TD colspan="2" align="left">A COMPANY LTD</TD><TD align="left"><B>Operation Nº</B></TD><TD>1</TD></TR> <TR><TD></TD></TR> </TABLE> [snip...] </TABLE></BODY></HTML>
That is not an Excel document! It's an html fragment. I don't know if Excel would ever support ...that... but it certainly doesn't seem to now
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@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
Shouldn't the raid software be able to reconnect them anyways?
Yes, but in this case these particular disks don't have anything we want to keep on them at all. Being wiped and RAIDed-afresh is in their very near future.
@all_users said in The Official Status Thread:
Couldn't some CAT5 dealt with the N part of that?
Yes. It's going to be the backup system for another unit. That one is in use right now, and other is being relocated so that we've got the systems in different buildings on different parts of the power grid. We also back things up to a third system across the city, but that's got annoyingly little space because central IT are
specialists innot really caught up to the reality of just how much data a research project can generate once it gets motoring or how long it needs to be retained.
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@Cursorkeys said in The Official Status Thread:
That is not an Excel document!
Oh, so it's a Word document?
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@Cursorkeys said in The Official Status Thread:
Status: What is wrong with people.
A collegue has a problem with a series of emails from a major bank. The contain .XLS files and Excel claims they are corrupt. The bank has already said 'your system must have corrupted them, check your virus scanner'.
I opened one up:
<HTML><META http-equiv="content-type" content="application/vnd.ms-excel"/><HEAD><BODY><TABLE> <TR><TD align="left"><B>Title</B></TD><TD colspan="2" align="left">Details of Invoices Charged on 4th August 2016</TD></TR> <TR><TD align="left"><B>Customer</B></TD><TD colspan="2" align="left">A COMPANY LTD</TD><TD align="left"><B>Operation Nº</B></TD><TD>1</TD></TR> <TR><TD></TD></TR> </TABLE> [snip...] </TABLE></BODY></HTML>
That is not an Excel document! It's an html fragment. I don't know if Excel would ever support ...that... but it certainly doesn't seem to now
Yes, it is a legacy supported way to get data into Excel. Unfortunately.
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@Cursorkeys said in The Official Status Thread:
. I don't know if Excel would ever support ...that... but it certainly doesn't seem to now
It did, and it does, although it likes to throw a fit nowadays if the file is saved as
.xls
. Clicking Repair or whatever it was usually helps.Had to deal with a "report" once which was exactly this - HTML files masquerading as .xls. And a thoroughly annoying client who wanted to see ALL THEIR DATAZ in the report, then tried to blame us when it turned out Excel has problems opening 500-MB files.
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@Maciejasjmj said in The Official Status Thread:
tried to blame us when it turned out Excel has problems opening 500-MB files.
Nah, it can handle that on a beefy enough machine. I once made a 4GB CSV file to test an importing tool in an attempt to simulate the much slower machine a client would be running it on. Opened OK, but search was a little slow
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@Jaloopa said in The Official Status Thread:
@Maciejasjmj said in The Official Status Thread:
tried to blame us when it turned out Excel has problems opening 500-MB files.
Nah, it can handle that on a beefy enough machine. I once made a 4GB CSV file to test an importing tool in an attempt to simulate the much slower machine a client would be running it on. Opened OK, but search was a little slow
CSVs might be easier to parse, though - they're just text data, while that faux-HTML can have attributes controlling formatting, bloating the in-memory model.
Or maybe my machine wasn't beefy enough then. Not sure if I was already upgraded from "trainee laptop" to "big boy laptop".
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@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
Yes, it is a legacy supported way to get data into Excel. Unfortunately.
@Maciejasjmj said in The Official Status Thread:
It did, and it does, although it likes to throw a fit nowadays if the file is saved as .xls. Clicking Repair or whatever it was usually helps.
That's more horrible than I imagined. I've told the colleague to go back to the bank and ask for valid XLSX files. You can only hope right?
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@Cursorkeys said in The Official Status Thread:
@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
Yes, it is a legacy supported way to get data into Excel. Unfortunately.
@Maciejasjmj said in The Official Status Thread:
It did, and it does, although it likes to throw a fit nowadays if the file is saved as .xls. Clicking Repair or whatever it was usually helps.
That's more horrible than I imagined. I've told the colleague to go back to the bank and ask for valid XLSX files. You can only hope right?
I'm half tempted to put money on you getting valid xls files with xlsx file extensions and you'll have to write code querying the mime type because people still don't understand changing the file extension doesn't change the file type.
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@DogsB BTDT. Also trying to identify the separator used in CSVs and the date format.
Oh, and getting XLS files that were originally CSVs with European numerical format so Excel decided that 4,95 was actually 4950. Also stripping leading 0s from things like phone numbers or sometimes replacing 441234567890 with 4.4e11
I hate dealing with user provided data
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@DogsB I've done this before, changing the extensions was a way to make the browser open the file in Excel last time I did something like this. It was just a few lines of code to export data from an asp.net grid.
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@Jaloopa said in The Official Status Thread:
sometimes replacing 441234567890 with 4.4e11
Fortunately, that's only for display. Change the column format to Text and you'll get everything (I think; true IME anyway).
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@dkf not always. All these problems were from the point of view of an importer that just looked at the XLS binary or the XML in the XLSX. We kept having to go back to clients saying "don't open the file, don't save the file, just send a copy of exactly what you received on to us." About half the time, they'd say that's what they'd done and I don't know if they were lying or if the next link in the chain had been the one to let Excel piss all over the data
Edit: I think it was the other way round actually. Excel files saved as CSV, so I could open in notepad++ and verify that we were being send call detail records where the dualled number was somehow in scientific notation
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@Jaloopa said in The Official Status Thread:
just send a copy of exactly what you received on to us
That's just asking for you to get a screenshot. In an Excel file…
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Somehow I thought that a mug still had water in it when it was actually almost empty.
I put it in the microwave for a minute.
The lightbulb in the microwave went BANG.
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@HardwareGeek said in The Official Status Thread:
it said I could reschedule, but there was no button to actually do so
No, there's text:
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@Cursorkeys said in The Official Status Thread:
That is not an Excel document! It's an html fragment.
Excel has, for several versions, supported reading HTML tables. How clever the parser is, I don't know.
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STATUS
Contextless overheard conversation in the office:
... I don't like Hitler, but I respect him...
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@ben_lubar said in The Official Status Thread:
ok so I installed a new version of the entire OS this forum's server runs on and nobody noticed because the downtime was so short.
Or maybe people stopped bothering to tell you about them because they're so fucking frequent.
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: Downtime is short!
: We have downtime
Seems correct.
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@Tsaukpaetra This always instills confidence:
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Status: NAS moved. Arms ache.
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STATUS I accidentally introduced a performance defect. Fixed it but found a second that needs a simple fix I fixed that. I'm officially responsible for a 200% performance increase!
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@DogsB said in The Official Status Thread:
I'm officially responsible for a 200% performance increase!
Speedup loops FTW!
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@DogsB Speed up loop ftw!
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@Jarry You'd have made that joke first if you'd remembered to speed your loops up…
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@FrostCat said in The Official Status Thread:
No, there's text:
No, there was a full-screen modal dialog that said I could reschedule, but which had only two buttons: Restart Now and Confirm (the scheduled time). Yesterday's restart had the same dialog, but with the Reschedule button. When I clicked the Reschedule button, I got to the settings to use a custom restart time, as you show, but the one a few days ago didn't have a way to get to it. Yesterday was also the first time in four months of using Win10 daily that I have EVER seen any notification for anything other than mail in the Action Center.
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@HardwareGeek said in The Official Status Thread:
but the one a few days ago didn't have a way to get to it
Well, that's because you were probably still on the November update, if not the original build.
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@dkf said in The Official Status Thread:
Arms ache.
Don't you have
slave labourgrad students for that sort of thing?
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@dkf
The fact that i was slow to make the joke makes it even better.(Yeah, it was totally on purpose. That's my history and i'm sticking with it)
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@HardwareGeek said in The Official Status Thread:
Don't you have
slave labourgrad students for that sort of thing?Not on this project. Plus I wanted it done this week; most of the peons are off taking a summer break.
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@FrostCat
Though, for bonus, recent security updates to Excel have started enforcing that files downloaded from the Internet (marked as "Blocked" within Windows Explorer") MUST be opened in Protected Mode. And HTML-as-.xls files CANNOT be opened in Protected Mode. So, the brain surgeons on the Excel update team implemented this error message to tell you what's going on:
Filed under: No, I didn't waste almost an hour of my yesterday because of this behavior, why do you ask?