The Official Status Thread
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Status: Warning: Insufficient mental resources available, responses may be delayed or time out.
You're Discourse?
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The ID badge with the photo, yes. The photo is the point of having it visible.
The RFID badge with the door opener, no.
Unless your company is crazy and/or stupid.
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I'd expect the site to be faster and more reliable if a single human were doing all the processing.
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Ah, so we're getting another retro love-in, to go with every other retro love-in for the last five years.
They want to remind people of the good Sonic games, not the shitty ones. Not sure why you find that surprising.
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You're Discourse?
I am Tsaukpaetra, 1 of 4 of Unimatrix 08, Authentication: "Awesome", session token 4, location 6, status: 8219.
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The ID badge with the photo, yes. ... The RFID badge with the door opener, no.
Most places I've worked, the RFID chip is in the photo ID. Not every place, but most. Having a separate card kept in your wallet can lead to odd-looking behavior like waving one's butt at the card reader to get in.
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The ID badge with the photo, yes. The photo is the point of having it visible.
The RFID badge with the door opener, no.
One and the same.
Why issue two, unless you have an outside lock that's controlled by your landlord.
Also those retractable id holders are junk so I've just been keeping it in my wallet. :/
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The ID badge with the photo, yes. The photo is the point of having it visible.
The RFID badge with the door opener, no.
That's the same thing at the company I work for.
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@HardwareGeek said:
It isn't frozen?
But can you ... let it go ... let it go ...
Well, thank you for that. Now I can't get it out of my head.
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Most places I've worked, the RFID chip is in the photo ID.
Well that's fucking stupid.
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You really should let it go ... then
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Most places I've worked, the RFID chip is in the photo ID
Same. I've never heard of them being different items.
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How so?
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Well that's fucking stupid.
Can you explain why? It's something that you have that makes it obvious it's yours at a glance.
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I can't get it out of my head.
Fortunately, my kids are college age. I saw the movie in a theater with them, but I didn't have to sit through endless repetitions on video, so I don't know any of the songs well enough for them to get stuck in my head.
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I've never heard of them being different items.
One place I worked the card key was a separate card, maybe 3 – 4 times as thick as a normal ID. Then they replaced the badges and card keys with RFID badges.
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inb4 now they know where to go to open doors.
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inb4 now they know where to go to open doors.
Sorry, could not grok. Am I so untraceable that my face being on a piece of plastic is the only way to tell where I should go?
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Well that's fucking stupid.
Why? Don't you think it is more stupid to have to carry two different cards?
Things must be very backwards where you live. Very behind the times.
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Status: Noticed the thread's title must have changed, but it didn't.
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Am I so untraceable that my face being on a piece of plastic is the only way to tell where I should go?
I think he's saying that anybody that steals or finds it knows what they can break into. IME separate key cards were generally unmarked, except with the name of the lock company.
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I think he's saying that anybody that steals or finds it knows what they can break into
Maybe. That only gives them one part of the two-factor authentication though...
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Don't you think it is more stupid to have to carry two different cards?
I have to carry two different cards, which are both combined RFID and ID cards, because some of our offices use a different system from some of the other offices.
If I needed access to all of our offices, I'd need four different cards. I think it's retarded.
The company I work for used to be several different companies, and years after the big mergers, they've never been "harmonised" into one system.
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You can't keep the door opener card in your wallet.
Clip the card to your belt, use it as an excuse to rub your crotch on things. When people complain, tell them that it is OK because you keep your penis meticulously clean.
Problem solved.
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two-factor authentication
I've never worked anywhere that had a second factor other than maybe a receptionist or rent-a-cop glancing at the tiny picture on the badge as you walk past. When I worked at Intel, they talked about pairing the RFID badges with cameras and facial recognition, but I don't know if it was ever implemented; I never saw cameras being installed.
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Around here the second factor is the other employee having to unlock the door for you because the RFID unlocker is so unreliable.
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I've never worked anywhere that had a second factor other than maybe a receptionist or rent-a-cop glancing at the tiny picture on the badge as you walk past.
So you unlock your workstation with your badge too?
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use it as an excuse to rub your crotch on things.
Our RFID readers are high enough that being able to rub my crotch on them would be considered an achievement.
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The ID badge with the photo, yes. The photo is the point of having it visible.
The RFID badge with the door opener, no.I have the same thing as some other forum members apparently: the RFID-chip is embedded in the ID badge with my photo.
That RFID opens the internal doors in the office.I have a separate RFID card that's plain white for the external doors.
The internal door badge readers are managed by the company I work for, the external badge readers are managed by the company that owns the building, so those are separate systems.
When I forget my badges at home, I can get a temporary badge for the internal doors.
There is a severely limited supply of external badges, so I have to call a colleague or piggyback when someone opens the outside door when I go out to get lunch.Unless your company is crazy and/or stupid.
It seems more efficient than crazy and/or stupid to me.
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Our RFID readers are high enough that being able to rub my crotch on them would be considered an achievement.
The ones at my wife's work are low. She keeps her badge in her back pocket and bumps the reader with her ass for hands-free operation.
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So you unlock your workstation with your badge too?
No, but we were talking about building access. There are plenty of things an intruder could do/steal without unlocking the workstation — like stealing the workstation itself.
"new smoke detectors"
My memory is rather hazy — it's probably been 10 years, or so — but as I think about it, it may have been that the facial recognition was associated with access to entrances that didn't have 24/7 manned security, which my building did, so that may be why I never saw it.
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@Tsaukpaetra said:
Can you explain why [a combined ID badge + door opening RFID is stupid]?
You can't keep the door opener card in your wallet.
Not an issue, since it's an ID badge with door opening powers.
Because it's an ID badge, it must be worn visibly at all times and because of that it's always within reach for opening doors.I can (and usually do) leave my wallet in my backpack at my desk and don't risk locking myself in the stailwell or outside.
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piggyback
Clearly your security is... lacking?
stealing the workstation itself.
That shouldn't have any data on it (that isn't encrypted by BitLocker) anyways?True facts: got stopped by security when carrying out a desktop PC a coworker was giving to me. Somehow he managed to get it into the building, but the moment I try to walk out with it, I need to get AVP approval after dismantling it (luckily it was a mostly empty case).
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piggyback
At the data center we have a presence in, I cannot even piggyback in with the owner. No badge, no entry. Only one person in the security hallway at a time. No exceptions. He tells security there he will fire anyone who breaks these rules, even if he tells them to break them.
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At the data center
Data centres are different when it comes to security. Well they should be, anyway.
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Data centres are different when it comes to security. Well they should be, anyway.
Pffffbt. The first data center I was in, you could get in by simply dropping a few names.
A friend had servers in there also. He was going to have someone swing by and swap some dead drives but forgot to call ahead and OK them. Security let the guy in and unlocked the cage because he knew the right name.
They suck, and they are a national chain.
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@OffByOne said:
piggyback
Clearly your security is... lacking?
Piggybacking and tailgating is explicitly forbidden at my office, but since we're a small satellite office (about 40 people), the "persons you don't know" doesn't really apply.
I could also use the doorbell outside to call the reception desk to buzz me in, but that usually takes more time and if the receptionist is not at their desk, it means I have to wait outside and call every few minutes until they're back.
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Same. I've never heard of them being different items.
Ours used to be separate. I assume it was legacy stuff before the cost came down or something.
Now they're Id badge, rfid and smart card in one card.
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Pffffbt. The first data center I was in, you could get in by simply dropping a few names.
I figured there were exceptions, hence the "should be".
We own our data centres, and while I can get into one of our offices trivially (even the ones where my RFID card doesn't work) - that certainly doesn't apply to the data centres.
A previous company I worked for leased rack space, and getting into it was such a ballache I generally passed anything requiring access to someone else.
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Having a separate card kept in your wallet can lead to odd-looking behavior like waving one's butt at the card reader to get in.
My ass opens many doors. Attached is a photo of the decrepit state of my wallet bound prox card(with awesome wooden table censorship)
Bottom line, the photo ID is permanent, even if you move buildings. The prox card is an individual building and is tied to your photo. Open a door and your picture pops up so security can cross reference you.
Locations where you can't get past security without a card (and have no alternate entrances) don't require you to wear a visible badge.
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IME separate key cards were generally unmarked, except with the name of the lock company.
Except that most people wore them together on a lanyard or whatever. IME.
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You can't keep the door opener card in your wallet.
Is it important to you to make your wallet thicker like that? What is the benefit here?
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Both of my access cards are so worn that my photo is worn off on both of them, and one of them only shows my first name. Neither of them are that bad though.
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Is it important to you to make your wallet thicker like that? What is the benefit here?
So he looks like he has more money, natch.
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Comedy butt waving at the door when you walk in in the morning laden with coats and gloves and hats and laptop bags and gym bags and a stack of Tupperware containing the week's lunch.