🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD
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Right; so now you have a dumb abstraction using a confusing term because you have to work-around the face that your scheme is shit.
The main entrance of the Exchange Building is on the 4th floor, BTW.
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The one with the main entrance is the ground floor. The other is a floor that happens to be at ground level on some side of the building.
There was a building at my University where the main, ground level floor was the 3th floor. The only other entrance I knew of was on the 6th.
It was the building the Archaeology department was in, so maybe it was some obscure joke about them being more comfortable at the bottom of a hole
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I once went to a building where the elevator button went something like: C, 0, two letters I don't remember, 1, 2, 3, 4.
C was basement ("cave"), 0 was ground floor coming from the front of the building, the two letters I don't remember was a mezzanine floor, 1 was another ground floor going out to the back of the building and the rest was how one would expect.
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Is Daily Mail one of the good or bad British papers?
Bad. Unless you ask a reader, in which case they'll tell you it's good. But those people are wrong, it's bad
The Daily Mail are good for entertainment, they are affectionately known as The Daily Heil for their right-wing views on immigrants/minorities and anyone they suspect might not be 100% White British. Hopefully it's all an elaborate
This story wasn't on the BBC yet (that I could see anyway) when I saw the Daily Mail link on a news aggregator.
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This story wasn't on the BBC yet (that I could see anyway) when I saw the Daily Mail link on a news aggregator.
It's barely a story at all. It reads like some local taxpayer who's bitter and pissed about how expensive the hospital turned out being.
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The Mail love to include the prices of buildings, even when it's completely irrelevant to the story. Almost anything about a celebrity will include how much their house is worth
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they are affectionately known as The Daily Heil for their right-wing views
And the Daily Fail because they're just so terrible ;)
@blakeyrat said:It's barely a story at all. It reads like some local taxpayer who's bitter and pissed about how expensive the hospital turned out being.
Par for the course for them
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Sounds like an excuse to post this video again
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And the Daily Fail because they're just so terrible
And the Daily Wail because every story is a complaint.
Usually about how something gives you cancer.
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It's barely a story at all. It reads like some local taxpayer who's bitter and pissed about how expensive the hospital turned out being.
Yeah, I thought it was a brand-new lift interface design. And it did seem interesting as a story that epitomised how much of a white elephant this project is if they went for custom lifts that don't work as expected. From reading this thread it's not a new interface style so I guess it just hasn't appeared in many places in the UK yet.
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Better than having -1 and +1 next to each other.
Although, I know of a building in Germany where the Basement is Floor #1, the ground floor is Floor #2 and the floor above that one is #3 ...
There is a city like that in Sweden. For some reason all ground floors are at least #2. Their univ. is built on a swamp and has no basement and still they start counting on 3.
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All neatly numbered so that 1,2,4,6 are the main floors, and 3 and 5 are the half floors.
Well, that's just stupid.
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Do they? I was partially actually asking. I've never seen that, but we tend to call the first floor the first floor.
The few times I've seen that, I've seen floors numbered (bottom to top) B3, B2, B1, G1, G2, G3, and so on.
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Do they? I was partially actually asking. I've never seen that, but we tend to call the first floor the first floor.
Around here, to get to the first floor, you have to go up at least one flight of stairs; however, in many buildings, the ground floor isn't actually on the same height as the actual ground, but is half a floor above it (and then called "high ground floor"; 1st floor is still the floor above it).
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All this talk of floor numbers makes me want to build a building as follows:
- π
- e
- φ
- 0 (ground floor)
- i
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I once watched a movie that involved an elevator that rotated slowly, where the building was designed around making you disoriented, and if you ended up in the wrong area, your body was harvested as a power source by evil magicians. It was weird.
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All this talk of floor numbers makes me want to build a building as follows:
π
e
φ
0 (ground floor)
iThere used to be a toney shopping centre in Scottsdale with about six floors, none of which had numbers. The buttons in the elevators all had letters, and none of your A, B, C foolishness. Instead they were marked things like G, S, R, M, P and T (can't remember the actual letters after all this time, but each stood for the floor's name, like "Street" or "Top".
I imagine there was something like that on the Love Boat with its Lido deck, Promenade deck, etc....
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I once watched a movie that involved an elevator that rotated slowly, where the building was designed around making you disoriented, and if you ended up in the wrong area, your body was harvested as a power source by evil magicians. It was weird.
When you said "movie", did you mean "dream"? Or maybe "acid trip"? :-)
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No, it's not only a movie, it's one of several in a series (I think 8?) about some people who hunt rogue mages and such. The Garden of Sinners. Quite good.
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I once watched a movie that involved an elevator that rotated slowly, where the building was designed around making you disoriented, and if you ended up in the wrong area, your body was harvested as a power source by evil magicians. It was weird.
Sounds like an idea for a dr who episode.
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and is a good example of a UI that sounds great until you try it with real people
What do you actually gain from not having any buttons inside the elevator? More people trapped inside? The biggest rule of any place you're putting people (with the notable exception of prisons) is that you should be able to get out quickly.
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I think I am trough here.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/Cattle_water_trough_-geograph.org.uk-_747178.jpg
Fig 1. Mikael Svahnberg
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What do you actually gain from not having any buttons inside the elevator?
Ever been in a multi-storey orthodox synagogue? You can't operate an electrical switch on Saturday, so the elevator doors simply open and close, and the car follows a pre-programmed sequence of floors, thus saving the devout congregation from accidentally consigning themselves to Hell.
(No, wait a tick. Orthodox Judaism doesn't believe in Hell. Not sure where the sinful go, but Hell ain't it.)
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Extra credits for the figure caption.
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All this talk of floor numbers makes me want to build a building as follows:
π
e
φ
0 (ground floor)
i
Where floor i is a neighbouring building?
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@Mikael_Svahnberg said:
I literally shat giggling.I think I am trough here.
Fig 1. Mikael Svahnberg
Filed under: reading in the toilet, TMI
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Not sure where the sinful go, but Hell ain't it.
Isn't it no heaven nor hell, but the faithful will get resurrected one day and the sinful will just stay dead? Or did I mix things up?
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Isn't it no heaven nor hell, but the faithful will get resurrected one day and the sinful will just stay dead? Or did I mix things up?
I thought it was that the sinful get barred from the sight of God or something like that.
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Might be. I'm not sure myself. Can't keep up with all of it at this point, and I don't go out of my way to learn about it, but I pick up a factoid now and then.
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What do you actually gain from not having any buttons inside the elevator?
Cleaner lines?
I've heard several designers go into raptures about minimal UI where they removed everything they thought unnecessary, so it's clearly a common HMI design failure, especially from 'hip' designers.Compare with Jony Ives/Apple industrial design ethic - remove all the buttons and all the connectors.
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What do you actually gain from not having any buttons inside the elevator?
Moronic users can't fuck up the optimal functioning of your perfect design, that's what. The whole idea is about letting the computer optimize the path of the elevators based on the idea that humans will choose sub-optimal lift loads because they're willing to take the hit to overall efficiency if it'll get them to their own floor faster, the selfish gits.
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Hence the pater noster elevator:
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What is that?
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:-) It's the elevator industry's equivalent of a rosary (hence the name -- and the fact that since you get on and off at speed you may need to mutter a prayer). Not many of them are still around, though...
(Oh, and apparently it's supposed to be one word: Paternoster. TIL.)
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Reminds me of that perpetual machine someone already posted here somewhere:
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Ever been in a multi-storey orthodox synagogue? You can't operate an electrical switch on Saturday
I thought they hired somebody to do that sort of thing for them. Or Rube Goldberg it up enough to soothe their consciences.
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Or Rube Goldberg it up enough to soothe their consciences.
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Edit: Total sophistry of course - the user's actions are intended to eventually cause a change in the state, no matter how long it happens after; a true Kosher Switch would randomly invert the state regardless of what someone had done with the switch.
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Bleh what?
A light gate with a randomiser got a patent?But then your patent system is utterly fucked, to the point where "The validity of the patent doesn't matter", as at least one patent lawyer is on record as saying.
(I forget where I read that)
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Bleh what?A light gate with a randomiser got a patent?
Eh...seems fairly reasonable to me. It's a physical device that solves a particular problem. Doesn't seem all that obvious. There are worse problems with the patent system.
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But then your patent system is utterly fucked
Patents for:
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linked lists (perhaps more accurately a skip list)
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toast
A method of refreshening a bread product by heating the bread product to a temperature between 2500°F and 4500°F
For reference, titanium melts at 3000°F
Also:
refreshening
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KosherSwitch
If I was their god I'd smite the piss out of them for considering my intelligence so low that child-like thinking could defeat me.
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Why not just put the lights on a timer?
Does that count as controlling them on Sabbath if the timer is set the previous day?
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A toaster that's also a blast furnace. I like it!
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Why not just put the lights on a timer?
Strange you should mention that, another company sells ones that work that way.
But also because you can't patent that idea.
And from their FAQ, it's a crap idea. Apparently.:
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