The Official Woody Woodpecker Thread
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He's created this fantasy where we're all attacking them or whatever and trying to brainwash them. It's hard to discuss stuff when someone is that far gone down the rabbit hole.
You're the ones laughing about throwing a hissy cow upon finding one in your bed and half-assedly suggesting brainwashing as a "treatment".
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Make it harder... how? By being unwilling to fuck with them?
No, by putting them down, debasing them, dehumanizing them, ridiculing them, etc., etc., ad nauseam.
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Why is this a thing being discussed again?
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Irony Proof
No.
We get where the people you talk about are coming from. You don't get where others are coming from.
No, by putting them down, debasing them, dehumanizing them, ridiculing them, etc., etc., ad nauseam.
That only happens to you here, and not because of any sexual or other classification, but because you're a fuckwit who had a chance at a serious discussion and blew it. You. Not transsexuals, not gays, not queers, you specifically are a fucking asshole and everyone treats you accordingly.
And even then you made 90% of it up in your mind because I think you just enjoy the image of yourself as a hero struggling against the evil combine of white, cis, straight men.
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No.
We get where the people you talk about are coming from. You don't get where others are coming from.
You might. Others in this forum clearly do not.
That only happens to you here, and not because of any sexual or other classification, but because you're a fuckwit who had a chance at a serious discussion and blew it. You. Not transsexuals, not gays, not queers, you specifically are a fucking asshole and everyone treats you accordingly.
No, it doesn't. Again, this might be true for you, but there are plenty of examples of everything I listed in that thread.
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...lol.
Okay, but seriously, those users are probably the same age group as the "regular" teens referenced at the start of the article. They just haven't figured out how to get past those pesky You Must Be 18 or Older To Enter signs on certain furry sites.
Ironically, I just saw some Rule34 of Tony yesterday.
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I don't have the time or money to hire a licensed psychologist
What about psychologists who bring their own bleach?
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I'm kinda perversely interested in what the hubbub is about.
I was, too. You'll regret it.
BTW: Yet another thread? Seriously, guys?
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@Fox said:
I still think you're a bit of a scumbag, but you're not that much of a scumbag.
And what is this parallel universe you live in where insulting the mods/admin staff of a forum is a good idea?
Right, bending over at the sight of power would be the correct way to avoid feelings of oppression.
http://s.hswstatic.com/gif/brown-nosing-250x150.jpg
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You're the ones laughing about throwing a hissy cow upon finding one in your bed and half-assedly suggesting brainwashing as a "treatment".
I don't remember that. Did you roofie me or something? Man, you're incorrigible.
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Now if only you could get someone to agree with you who isn't @flabdablet or @LaoC.
Is that a reverse bandwagon argument or just an attempt at primary school style "haa-haa, you have no freh-hends!" bullying?
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Is that a reverse bandwagon argument or just an attempt at primary school style "haa-haa, you have no freh-hends!" bullying?
No, just that his only talent is preaching to the choir. As the International Lord of Hate has said, Internet flame wars aren't expected to persuade any of the participants—they're really aiming at the spectators. And @Fox has a terrible track record at that.
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I don't remember that. Did you roofie me or something? Man, you're incorrigible.
At this point it seems pertinent to redirect your attention to Exhibit A once more.
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At this point it seems pertinent to redirect your attention to Exhibit A once more.
Is it pertinent to notice that you didn't do that. Not even a link! That's probably because I say the opposite of what you claim.
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Dischorse breaks links to Exhibit A (aka "The Thread Which Literally Shall Not Be Named" and "that thread"), so I didn't bother linking it.
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we all know it's the other way around.
https://narf-archive.com/pix/5798b7e2533f68c203129a4946fbda2059e4eee8.jpeg
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All you have to do is take out the #s in the slug, which doesn't really matter, FYI. That's all SEO nonsense that doesn't really affect disconavigation.
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Ugh, you mean actual work? I don't come here to work. That's silly. You're silly.
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Dischorse breaks links to Exhibit A
Bullfuckinghorseshit. I'm Discourse's biggest detractor, and even I can post a link to a thread or a post in a thread. Blaming Discourse for your own failings is like trying to tell your mom that it was your braindead cousin who assfucked the cat, not you.
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No, I know you can't back up your imaginary claims. I just want to make it clear that your excuses for not providing proof are just fig leafs for your lies.
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Nope, Dischorse actually does break links to any thread with "Belgium" in the topic title.
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No, I know you can't back up your imaginary claims. I just want to make it clear that your excuses for not providing proof are just fig leafs for your lies.
Fine,you know what? Here you fucking go.
People saying it's okay to throw a hissy cow upon finding that a woman they intended to have sex with is trans.
People half-assedly suggesting "treatments"
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OK, I will admit to actually reacting to your "brainwashing" bullshit (I probably should have clarified that, but the vodka I was using to soothe the after effects of prepping for and running a Den Meeting blunted the edge of my pendandtry). And I feel vindicated now, because that link contradicts your claim.
I think you're retarded for making fun of people's sexual orientation and asserting that they' shouldn't be upset when they find themselves doing something against that. It's like all that talk about you valuing people's feelings was a total lie.
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I think you're retarded for making fun of people's sexual orientation and asserting that they' shouldn't be upset when they find themselves doing something against that. It's like all that talk about you valuing people's feelings was a total lie.
*scrolls up*
There's a difference between
"What the fuck. Why did you lie to me."
and
"I'm sorry, I'm actually not comfortable with this."
You can be upset. You can even refuse to go through with having sex. What you cannot do is throw a hissy cow about it.
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@Onyx said:
I'm kinda perversely interested in what the hubbub is about.
I was, too. You'll regret it.
BTW: Yet another thread? Seriously, guys?
You're right I have...
If those two links lower down are the best evidence of the hate then this is the most overblown thing I ever saw on here. I really don't want to get into discussions about that myself, but while I might not 100% agree with either @Polygeekery nor @boomzilla in there I don't see either being hateful or completely unreasonable in those examples. Certainly not to an extent where it would warrant that threadnaught, let alone letting it leak out into the rest of the forum.
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I really don't want to get into discussions about that myself
Same here. I had already written a lengthy reply to @Fox (telling him where I agreed with him, where I didn't and where he was definitely going too far), but then decided not to send it to avoid getting caught in the crossfire, because I'm pretty sure both sides would have disliked parts of my reply. Also, I wouldn't be able to explain my views properly without sharing a lot of information you really should not share with a forum full of trolls.
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You can be upset. You can even refuse to go through with having sex. What you cannot do is throw a hissy cow about it.
Why the fuck not? You outright lied to get into an intimate situation and all you're expecting is a by your leave sir! No the response is going to be "Get the fuck out of my house and never come back again!". You know some of us actually have a problem with people been lying arseholes. We don't fucking tolerate them and tell to get the fuck out of our lives.Also nice backpedal. Will enjoy watching the next one. Any one want to take any bets on what it will be?
Same here. I had already written a lengthy reply to @Fox (telling him where I agreed with him, where I didn't and where he was definitely going too far), but then decided not to send it to avoid getting caught in the crossfire, because I'm pretty sure both sides would have disliked parts of my reply. Also, I wouldn't be able to explain my views properly without sharing a lot of information you really should not share with a forum full of trolls.
Case in point @Fox
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the vodka I was using to soothe the after effects of prepping for and running a Den Meeting
I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
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AFAIR the whole mess started with @Fox bashing people over the heads for having their sexual preferences wrong and broken - namely, that we find transsexuals a turnoff.
No, that was the strawman the other side set up so it didn't have to deal with what Brer @Fox was actually objecting to, which is the claim that non-disclosure of trans status is not only legitimate cause to be "fucking pissed" but amounts to a serious deception: serious enough, in fact, to render consent to sex uninformed and invalid, thereby making any consequent sexual contact amount to rape of the "deceived" by the trans non-discloser.
Yes, that's a claim that tortures reason until it howls. No, it's not an unfair or exaggerated paraphrase of what Polygeekery said, and Fox's first contribution to that thread was a completely clear and specific objection to it.
There are endless reading comprehension fails on display in that thread. Very, very few of them are @Fox's.
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What are you suggesting you'll do.
Make it a thought crime to not prefer trans?
Or, maybe you'll use force and literally kill people who disagree with you.
Strawman.
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Why is this a thing being discussed again?
Because the usual gang of idiots is behaving as if wheeling out the same old strawmen for yet another round of @Fox abuse will look cleverer than it did the first time.
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It's Matryoshka strawmen!
So you're arguing that deception in an intimate relationship is not a reason to be pissed off.
What are you expecting?
Well dear the penis was a bit unexpected so I'm afraid we'll have to cease the relationship here. Lets hug and I'll pay taxi fare home for you.
What a wonderful world you live in and It's nice how he dodged the role reversal for himself.
Because the usual gang of idiots is behaving as if wheeling out the same old strawmen for yet another round of @Fox abuse will look cleverer than it did the first time.
I have no problem rehashing the same pointless argument over and over again with Fox (although I think he may of spotted I'm trolling him now) but when he starts throwing around fictitious and scurrilous accusations about our characters for having the audacity of non-conformance to his viewpoint then things become problematic. He even has the gumption to drag it into the lounge. He wasn't in there five minutes and people suddenly became worried about PII for the first time in an internet age.
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It's not libel if it's true
At my country defamation laws it doesn't matter if its true. If your speech cause damage to someone without a legit reason (like a movie critic) you're guilty.
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He even has the gumption to drag it into the lounge.
Which is, honestly, the only problem I have with anyone discussing any damned topic around here. For example, most of the political bickering here is about US politics, which I have even less interest in than usual, and it's pretty low anyway. But that shit is contained in their own threads most of the time. If it pops up anywhere else it either a one-off troll post or it gets rolling in which case it either gets Jeffed or I just leave and all is fine. Same with gun control stuff.
But this shit is everywhere lately. Every damned thread has at least one trans joke. I find them tiring, but I'm tolerant of them. I'm sure some of my jokes piss many people off, too. But that's something I can just scroll by and ignore, no big deal. But each and every one makes me flinch, not because of the joke, be it tasteful or not, but because I'm just waiting for the moment the whole thing will get derailed into this topic on account of that one post. Which is why I had that blowout in the Go thread recently. All of you who interact with me daily for what, almost two years now, know that's not something I do. That's not who I am.
Also, @Fox, I have nothing against you, nor your views, whether I think they are valid or not. But you almost made me flag one of your posts for spam today. I never, ever even thought of doing that here unless it was some marketing drone pitch thread, which we do get from time to time. In light of that, I would like to respectfully ask you to contain criticisms of people's views on-topic (whatever it is in any given thread) and either cross-quote stuff into that disaster of a thread that's hard to link to or hash it out in a
PM or whatever.
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serious enough, in fact, to render consent to sex uninformed and invalid, thereby making any consequent sexual contact amount to rape of the "deceived"
Fuck, now I have to write a reply. Deceptions of any kind are bad, and a valid reason to be very angry. But if there's one thing I cannot stand, it's people who broaden the definition of rape.
I really don't want to get into this, but let me just state that I know the difference between actual rape and having been in an intimate relationship with a person who deceived me in every possible way from personal experience. If you think those two things are even remotely related, you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. The shame and guilt you feel after being deceived for an extended period of time sucks as well, but is not even remotely close to what rape does to you. Hint: One of the two can be processed by distracting yourself for a few weeks and
somea lot of Scotch, the other experience will still be affecting your mental state decades later.So, again, if you seriously think broadening the definition of rape to sexual encounters you regret is okay, no matter whether you're an overzealous SJW ("sex without an explicit contract is rape") or a transphobic asshole ("fucking someone after reconstructive surgery without telling him about it is rape"), do the world a favor and die.
Fuck, I'm going to regret posting this.
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No, that was the strawman the other side set up so it didn't have to deal with what Brer @Fox was actually objecting to, which is the claim that non-disclosure of trans status is not only legitimate cause to be "fucking pissed" but amounts to a serious deception: serious enough, in fact, to render consent to sex uninformed and invalid, thereby making any consequent sexual contact amount to rape of the "deceived" by the trans non-discloser.
Well, then you might want to inform @Fox of that, since he's right now arguing a completely different point - namely, that one shouldn't be angry at transsexuals that get into one's bed by said deception.
Which is the kind of sheltering bullshit that does the community a disservice, frankly - trans people catch enough flak from those who don't try to sleep with them, trying to justify and force others into accepting without "throwing a hissy cow" the seriously shitty behaviour that might well leave some people fucking traumatized just makes others look at the community through this prism and think "wow, those are shitty human beings!" Which they don't deserve in general.
So, again, if you seriously think broadening the definition of rape to sexual encounters you regret is okay
You don't see a difference between "the guy turned out to have a 8cm penis" and "I'm a heterosexual man and I just touched someone's dick"? It might not be rape by textbook definition, but it's not just a "sex you regret" either - I mean Jesus, some people would be downright traumatized because of that, and yet according to @Fox they can't even be visibly pissed about it.
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I mean Jesus, some people would be downright traumatized because of that
Some people need to stop being fucking sissies and google the definition of traumatized, because the excessive use of that term is annoying. I already regret replying, since the very first post after mine already tries to equate unwanted/embarassing experiences and rape. Wow.
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Some people need to stop being fucking sissies and google the definition of traumatized, because the excessive use of that term is annoying.
Yes, I think this counts as an "emotionally disturbing experience" with potential to cause "lasting shock".
Some people need to stop setting fucking rules as to what you are or aren't allowed to be traumatized by. Just because you maybe wouldn't care about it that much, doesn't mean nobody else would, or that nobody else should.
I already regret replying, since the very first post after mine already tries to equate unwanted/embarassing experiences and rape. Wow.
For fuck's sake, you might just be embarassed, someone else might not get into bed with a girl again because they remember the incident! You're the asshole who tries to equate the situation with going into bed with a guy with a short dick!
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You don't see a difference between "the guy turned out to have a 8cm penis" and "I'm a heterosexual man and I just touched someone's dick"?
Strawman, BTW. I never said that. But now that I think about it, if you're that easily traumatized, both experiences might be traumatizing to you ("Oh my god, I have a huge vagina, guys won't feel anything and neither do I, I'm too embarassed to ever have sex again!"), so why not?
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Some people need to stop setting fucking rules as to what you are or aren't allowed to be traumatized by.
I'm not setting rules here, I'm just doubting that would cause serious trauma in most people. Also, If you had actually read my post, you would have noticed that I - by your broad definition of trauma - am actually arguing that there is a huge difference between "trauma" and "trauma that will scar you for life and haunt you pretty much every day".
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Aaand I just realized why that thread is a trainwreck it is. Everyone is taking shit to extreme levels on both sides and yelling at each others across the fence. The rest of us not participating realized that the fence is only two meters long, took a few steps to either side, shook hands and we're now having a BBQ.
Everyone is invited to give up yelling and join us, too! We have hot dogs!
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Everyone is invited to give up yelling and join us, too! We have hot dogs!
I'm coming. I'm already done with this thread.
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if you're that easily traumatized
Fuck off and never come back. Seriously.
You don't get to teach people about what makes them "easily traumatized". You don't get to tell people that their experiences and feelings are not a big deal, and that they should just man up and get over it, just because you can. You're the kind of person that would tell the girl who got into bed with a guy and got knocked out and violated that "meh, that's what you wanted, right? You're so easily traumatized."
Easily traumatized. Fuck me.
Also, If you had actually read my post, you would have noticed that I - by your broad definition of trauma - am actually arguing that there is a huge difference between "trauma" and "trauma that will scar you for life and haunt you pretty much every day".
And you just classified everything and expect people to follow this classification, and if they don't, then their feelings and experiences are invalid and wrong. Yes, I got that much.
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So, again, if you seriously think broadening the definition of rape to sexual encounters you regret is okay, no matter whether you're an overzealous SJW ("sex without an explicit contract is rape") or a transphobic asshole ("fucking someone after reconstructive surgery without telling him about it is rape"), do the world a favor and die.
I agree with that, and it's not what people were arguing in context, which was at least partly an Alinskiite reaction to modern rape nonsense.
Yes, please, tell us how we must feel.
