Deus EX: MD
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@error said in Deus EX: MD:
didn't HR have like a checkpoint system?
Not that I recall. There were automatic saves but you could still save manually (at least on the PC version).
HR was too easy, even on the hardest difficulty, mainly because of regenerating health and having vents everywhere that made you basically immortal. I fear Mankind Divided may be even easier.
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@Onyx They should implement a system where you have to find special save "gems" scattered around the level, and you can carry a maximum of 3 in your inventory, and saving the game consumes 1 of them. I bet that would make it more fun.
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@anonymous234 INB4 you can buy gems for real cash from the built-in store.
Filed under: Oh come on, you know it would happen
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@Onyx EDIT THAT POST NOW BEFORE THEY CAN SEE IT.
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@anonymous234 said in Deus EX: MD:
@Onyx They should implement a system where you have to find special save "gems" scattered around the level, and you can carry a maximum of 3 in your inventory, and saving the game consumes 1 of them
That's basically old Resident Evil system, isn't it?
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@Onyx said in Deus EX: MD:
INB4 you can buy gems for real cash from the built-in store.
Ah, but they will use a different slot system and be used preferentially to the ones you can find in-game.
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@Maciejasjmj I don't know about Resident Evil, but it was the method used in a gaming masterpiece called Daikatana, I'm sure you've heard of it.
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So by yesterday evening, I'd finished three sidequests and was on to the first main quest you actually get to choose when you go to. I'm bad at things, so drugs still happen. But I emptied the tank?
I have a bunch of places I could have gone, but for some reason I'm not exploring much in sidequest areas. I can definitely say vents don't make me feel immortal so far.
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@anonymous234 said in Deus EX: MD:
@Onyx They should implement a system where you have to find special save "gems" scattered around the level, and you can carry a maximum of 3 in your inventory, and saving the game consumes 1 of them. I bet that would make it more fun.
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@anonymous234 said in Deus EX: MD:
@Onyx They should implement a system where you have to find special save "gems" scattered around the level, and you can carry a maximum of 3 in your inventory, and saving the game consumes 1 of them. I bet that would make it more fun.
They do, for some reason, tell me I don't have enough space available to save more than 11 games, despite having almost a terabyte still free on my PS4.
I am save scumming like a motherfucker, and I've learned to rotate save slots after having to start FF6 all over again because I didn't bring any Phoenix Downs into Cyan's dream sequence sidequest.
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@error said in Deus EX: MD:
Cyan's dream sequence sidequest.
That's where I stopped as a kid, because I was cheating horribly and couldn't take enough damage to make the boss vulnerable...
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@Magus said in Deus EX: MD:
I don't know if there really is a way to make it stop,
There is. Fuck off and don't come back. Arsehole.
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@tufty said in Deus EX: MD:
@Magus said in Deus EX: MD:
I don't know if there really is a way to make it stop,
There is. Fuck off and don't come back. Arsehole.
He apologized. Let's bury this.
Edit: (It's in The Lounge... OK. Well, it did happen.)
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@accalia said in Deus EX: MD:
probably a mistake that i should get yelled at but... fuck it, i like deus ex so i bought it! if you don't like that reddit you can sue me!
???
At some point a set of people will have to buy it so everyone else will know whether it's good.
The problem is only if everyone preorders from game devs that are known to stall or fail or overpromise and underdeliver.
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@xaade said in Deus EX: MD:
The problem is only if everyone preorders from game devs that are known to stall or fail or overpromise and underdeliver.
No, the problem is buying a game no one has reviewed, with nothing but hype to tell you whether it's good or not. People are psychologically tied to things they preorder, and far less likely to ask for refunds for them. Preorders have no merits, only drawbacks - unless you're the publisher.
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@Magus said in Deus EX: MD:
Preorders have no merits, only drawbacks - unless you're the publisher
but what about this sweet weapon skin that will be available as DLC in a few months anyway?
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@Magus said in Deus EX: MD:
Preorders have no merits, only drawbacks - unless you're the publisher.
They did back when copies were physical, and the cash went to the physical store.
However, the benefit to the publisher is a benefit to the player, if the publisher has a track record of good delivery. Then the play is pre-financing the development of the game.
I found the Deus Ex prequel to be really enjoyable. The only frustration I had was hidden means of earning trophies based on endings.
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@xaade said in Deus EX: MD:
However, the benefit to the publisher is a benefit to the player, if the publisher has a track record of good delivery.
Track record means nothing. Yeah, they're likely to release something good, but that means absolutely nothing until the game comes out. And if they haven't delivered you a good product, they don't deserve your money. You simply do not pay unless the game is good.
Every publisher is a risk, and they will all release disappointments.
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@error said in Deus EX: MD:
There are strong parallels drawn with regard to discrimination, persecution, and xenophobia in our real society. In my personal opinion, the "aug lives matter" is not intended to mock or trivialize the similar movement in real life, but rather to portray it respectfully through dramatization.
+1 for portraying controversial issues in a videogame in a serious manner.It's a good thing because it gets people talking about the issues in a relatively safe environment.
However, it's a bad thing because people don't make the connections between what they're saying and how that would realte to real world.
For example, I was talking the other day about Skyrim politics. And someone said they understand why Ulfric behaves the way they did. Then someone else responds that it's similar to Trump, and the whole thread went crazy over "shutting up about politics" along with "Trump is racist". I tried to point out the fact that they're related because the driving ideal is nationalism, not racism, but all I got back after that was the typical media slurs.
I know people here won't agree with my evaluation of the real world politics, and that's not the point.
The point is that these parallel politics helps people understand issues where they aren't already brainwashed to react a certain way.
If someone walks away saying I can understand BLM a little bit better, or walks away and says they understand the frustration at BLM, when they previously only understood one side of that argument, then that's better for everyone. That generates empathy.
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@xaade said in Deus EX: MD:
If someone walks away saying I can understand BLM a little bit better, or walks away and says they understand the frustration at BLM, when they previously only understood one side of that argument, then that's better for everyone. That generates empathy.
So I agree with this, as do most people I assume. It's direct BLM supporters who are mad about it, thinking it cheapens the movement to have something else use the term, or something.
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@Magus said in Deus EX: MD:
@xaade said in Deus EX: MD:
However, the benefit to the publisher is a benefit to the player, if the publisher has a track record of good delivery.
Track record means nothing. Yeah, they're likely to release something good, but that means absolutely nothing until the game comes out. And if they haven't delivered you a good product, they don't deserve your money. You simply do not pay unless the game is good.
Every publisher is a risk, and they will all release disappointments.
Yeah, but if people keep buying from a publisher after a "bad" game, then maybe they just don't agree that it was a bad game.
Sure, it delays reaction by one game for some people, however, it's not like everyone is going to read the negative review and be like, "that decides it for me".
I think there's this misunderstanding out there that everyone has to hate the same games the community or the big YouTubers hated, and they're too busy not noticing this because they think they're the only deciding factor.
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@xaade said in Deus EX: MD:
I think there's this misunderstanding out there that everyone has to hate the same games the community or the big YouTubers hated, and they're too busy not noticing this because they think they're the only deciding factor.
The thing is, it used to be that you had to just trust that a game in a series you like would be good. Then gaming magazines showed up, and you started to get things like Driv3r - the publisher paying directly for good reviews that have nothing to do with the actual game. And it hasn't stopped: Warner Brothers payed a number of people on youtube and gaming sites to publish good reviews for Shadow of Mordor.
So we know for a fact that you can't trust publishers or popular reviewers before a game comes out.
If, after it comes out, you can see actual gameplay fooitage, with a description of what the game is like over top, that makes a huge difference - specifically if they just give an analysis of what they've experienced, and show examples. It's better than reading an article, because you see what they mean.
I like watching TotalBiscuit's videos largely because he tries not to sway you to his opinions, and tries to call them out as his opinions. And when you know him, and know what he likes, you know if you'd agree.
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@Magus said in Deus EX: MD:
It's direct BLM supporters who are mad about it, thinking it cheapens the movement to have something else use the term, or something.
Only because there's a large % of humanity that reacts with agreement with the loudest voice no matter the topic, and protesters know this. They're afraid they'll lose the chance to capitalize on the attention.
However, what they don't get, is that this is working against them.
The problem with people that agree with the loudest voice, is that they quickly get fatigued from the conversation. Which is why these indoctrination groups have to keep changing the language, or reach into younger crowds like college where fresh minds are constantly supplied.
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@xaade said in Deus EX: MD:
The problem is only if everyone preorders from game devs that are known to stall or fail or overpromise and underdeliver.
Well, this game also had an especially fucked up thing with preorders. Got canceled after enough people got pissed and ripped them a new one about it (google for "Augment your preorder" if you're interested in specifics, I don't want to lay it out here and make it a thing again since it's
now anyway)
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@xaade said in Deus EX: MD:
At some point a set of people will have to buy it so everyone else will know whether it's good.
apparently some people think preordering games is teh evil and rewards scumbag companies who sell you the preorder and never deliver.
i disagree with that salt and do not wish to participate. I buy most games after they are released anyway because i can wait six months for the sales anyway, but some games i know i'm going to love and play teh shit out of and those i consider preordering.
so.... yeah. there's that.
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@accalia said in Deus EX: MD:
apparently some people think preordering games is teh evil and rewards scumbag companies who sell you the preorder and never deliver.
i disagree with that salt and do not wish to participate. I buy most games after they are released anyway because i can wait six months for the sales anyway, but some games i know i'm going to love and play teh shit out of and those i consider preordering.I'm too much of a sucker for in-game preorder exclusive rewards, to the point where I once bought the same game twice for the same platform because two different retailers had different preorder exclusives and I wanted both.
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@error said in Deus EX: MD:
I'm too much of a sucker for in-game preorder exclusive rewards
psst. in the days of digital delivery those preorder exclusives almost never stay exclusive forever. they eventually show up (after 12-18 months) as paid DLC.
physical preorder exclusives are a different matter obv.
;-)
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@accalia said in Deus EX: MD:
physical preorder exclusives are a different matter obv.
Actually, I stopped caring about those at all as I started to accumulate artbooks, figurines, statues, cards, pendants, etc. At some point I just started thinking of those things as "junk that takes up space." Which is also what I think of physical game discs now.
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@error said in Deus EX: MD:
@accalia said in Deus EX: MD:
physical preorder exclusives are a different matter obv.
Actually, I stopped caring about those at all as I started to accumulate artbooks, figurines, statues, cards, pendants, etc. At some point I just started thinking of those things as "junk that takes up space." Which is also what I think of physical game discs now.
that also works. :-)
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@accalia said in Deus EX: MD:
but some games i know i'm going to love and play teh shit out of and those i consider preordering.
And I did in this case, despite my insistence that there is absolutely no benefit to consumers in having preorders. Because I did believe they'd deliver. And I probably will for Civ6. But I still don't think it's a positive thing.
@accalia said in Deus EX: MD:
psst. in the days of digital delivery those preorder exclusives almost never stay exclusive forever. they eventually show up (after 12-18 months) as paid DLC.
I prefer the Path of Exile approach: release exclusive microtransactions every six months, some of which require completing challenges, others require money, and none of them ever come back (Though I wouldn't mind if some did). My friend has two Diamond Kiwis from the first set.
@error said in Deus EX: MD:
Actually, I stopped caring about those at all as I started to accumulate artbooks, figurines, statues, cards, pendants, etc. At some point I just started thinking of those things as "junk that takes up space." Which is also what I think of physical game discs now.
...And now Path of Exile has an option for 'Just give me more points instead of physical items.'
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Getting more Deus Ex as the game goes through but the Micro-transactions are bullshit. I wanna own the game ... like I did with HR.
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@error This is why we can't have nice things.
Honestly they got your money for twice over bullshit.
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@xaade As much I enjoyed No Man's Sky, the game is over until they add something via a patch as far as I am concerned. I earn a lot most that most gamers (basically in a week I earn more than most of the entire salary for a month).
Deus Ex : MD will probably take me a few play throughs before I know how to do it on "Deus Ex mode". The money for this game was worth it, while it has some flaws the single player is one the best games single Deus Ex : HR.
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@Magus Someone with fame in the video game world should announce a game, hype it as much as possible, let people preorder it for $59.99, and then simply release a tetris clone with the text "I hope you learned a lesson here" written somewhere.
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@anonymous234 TBH mate it did look good from retrospect ..
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@anonymous234 They did, it was called No Man's Sky!
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Turns out, every trailer was just a series of cutscenes inbetween levels.
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@anonymous234 said in Deus EX: MD:
@Magus Someone with fame in the video game world should announce a game, hype it as much as possible, let people preorder it for $59.99, and then simply release a tetris clone with the text "I hope you learned a lesson here" written somewhere.
So, KickStarter, basically?
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@xaade said in Deus EX: MD:
Turns out, every trailer was just a series of cutscenes inbetween levels.
The cutscene actually contains the subtitle "ACTUAL GAMEPLAY FOOTAGE."
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@error That is kinda broken, because the rendering spazzes out sometimes ... thank "AMD Graphics" when I use the superior chipset which is Nvidia again (which I use because I am gansta).
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@lucas1 I think my post was meant to be in the Evil Ideas Thread.
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Well Whoever is Deus MK community leader would love to employ you as they have done loads of evil ideas. However they haven't fucked up core gameplay.
I am tired of the game, because I am tbh just pressing Q at the right moment over and over again. The Hacking is more fun IMHO, that takes some judgement. I been thinking of building a game just on that at the moment.
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@error said in Deus EX: MD:
The cutscene actually contains the subtitle "ACTUAL GAMEPLAY FOOTAGE."
The parts of the cutscene that are missing are where it cuts to the developer sitting with a concept artist and saying "nah, too hard to make."
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@pydsigner It was "lets do a the helicopter plane fly fast the clouds and make the make the clouds look cool"
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@lucas1 said in Deus EX: MD:
I am tired of the game, because I am tbh just pressing Q at the right moment over and over again. The Hacking is more fun IMHO, that takes some judgement. I been thinking of building a game just on that at the moment.
I still want to make a hacking game based on StarTwine, but with the Digimon/SummerWars internet visual style.
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@Magus That is ace but not relevant.
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@lucas1 said in Deus EX: MD:
The Hacking is more fun IMHO, that takes some judgement. I been thinking of building a game just on that at the moment.
The hacking seemed interesting enough to base a puzzle game on back in HR, and it seems they've expanded it.
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So, just finished it. A bit of warning: The ending comes a bit ... abrupt. A small hint: You can cheese it if you don't really want to deal with a certain someone on ... hrmh, his own level.
Also: The end game credits are the developers trollface. Seriously, you can't skip them! They even disabled Alt+F4!
Though F9 (i.e. Fast Load) works.For some of the sidequests this: "Go to the northern area, look for something, then immediately go to the southern area, look for something else, then it's north again!" gets a bit old after a while. Especially in the 3rd act, you'll know what I'm talking about when you see it.
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@accalia said in Deus EX: MD:
some games i know i'm going to love and play teh shit out of and those i consider preordering.
I guess this is where people's opinions differ, I believe that even if the game is part of a genre/series/developer that I absolutely love, the game could still turn out to be complete rubbish.
But I also play on PC and PC ports seem to get shafted these days, so that might have something to do with my absence of faith.
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More dumb AI tricks. There is a door I want to hack next to a dealer who doesn't want me hacking it. If he sees me hacking, he will turn hostile. So I made a wall of boxes next to him to obstruct his view of the door. He doesn't suspect a thing.
Now I'm selling his own guns to him, from the safe 10 feet away from him, behind the stack of boxes I built right in front of him.
