Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for
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@ben_lubar A lot of game of thrones locations and plot revolves around real world history and things, George R.R. Martin just added Dragons (which is part of English Mythology anyway). He just mixed it up and added some magic.
There is soo much he just stole and moved about, I could be writing a comment on here for over an hour.
EDIT: As some fuck voted me down for stating the obvious:
Show vs Real Life:
- Valyrian Steel == Damascus Steel
- Hadrians Wall == The Great Wall
- The War of the Roses == The War of the Five kings
- Wild Fire == Greek Fire
- Dothraki == Mongols
- Westros == England
- Essos == Europe and the Middle East
- Iron Bourne == Vikings
- Bravvos == Rhodes (they have a colossus that guards the entry to the port)
The whole of Game of Thrones is basically a re-imagining of medieval history.
BTW I don't think the fact he stole a whole lot of history makes it a bad story story btw.
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@lucas1 said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
It isn't? Are you fucking kidding me?
Here on the other side of the Atlantic, "X isn't big on Y" means "X doesn't approve of Y". I was also employing a humorous technique of understatement.
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@xaade said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
Unknown Unknown. Are we going to get stuck because there are portions of the code that are unreadable? The server is in a 3rd world country that just recovered from civil war, are there going to be any more conflicts lately?
Uh...that's a known unknown dude. I don't think you're understanding the concept of unknown.
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@anonymous234 said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
It's easy to add some soap to clean water. It's very hard to take out the soap out from soapy water. And nothing else
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@Groaner said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
I'm sure it'll be easier once our understanding is crispr.
I feel like you haven't yet gotten the acknowledgment you deserved for this.
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@Groaner said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
@Fox said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
@lucas1 Probably within the next two or three decades, barring a Trump presidency and ensuing nuclear apocalypse.
One of my friends suggested that the Fallout universe could be a plausible outcome of such a presidency; first, social regression back to the 1950's, then nuclear war with China.
What the hell? Who equates Trump with 1950s morals or whatever? Maybe that made sense with someone like Cruz. It's clear today that the most rampant disease is Trump Derangement Syndrome.
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@dkf said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
IIRC, I was reading somewhere fairly recently about using gene therapy techniques in trials.
Someone in China is doing something with lung cancer:
http://www.nature.com/news/chinese-scientists-to-pioneer-first-human-crispr-trial-1.20302
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@boomzilla said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
@Groaner said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
I'm sure it'll be easier once our understanding is crispr.
I feel like you haven't yet gotten the acknowledgment you deserved for this.
I think it 'd for most people not following the bleeding edge in research. So far, you and @Fox got it, and do appreciate the recognition!
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@Groaner said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
So far, you and @Fox got it,
Yeah, eventually I read far enough to see him get it. It was my thought in reading the post you responded to, as well. No doubt some people are surprised to see that I Believe In Science.
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@boomzilla said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
I don't think you're understanding the concept of unknown.
Well, it would be hard to describe wouldn't it?
Point being, you need to have some buffer for what you can't know.
But that doesn't mean it should paralyze you, or consume all your concern over risk.Basically it's a confidence check. If you are certain you have every risk identified, great. If not, you need to account for how unconfident you are about the risks you don't know.
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@abarker thank you. :)
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@Groaner said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
So far, you and @Fox got it, and do appreciate the recognition!
I saw the spelling and figured it was a @Groaner rather than an @accalia so I knew there was a joke there but I don't have the background to get it.
I looked it up afterwards and it's clever so well done on that, but now, for me at least, the examination of the joke has killed it dead.
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@masonwheeler said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
drop the database!
Shouldn't have called him Bobby Tables
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@boomzilla said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
I Believe In Science.
*gasp*
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@blakeyrat said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
@masonwheeler said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
How is it that we don't know how to DELETE one?
Because removing 100% of a patient's bone marrow is usually fatal.
To be fair, that's more like a DROP DATABASE.
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@another_sam said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
the examination of the joke has killed it dead.
There is even a team working on another scientific advancement with the potential to fix that!
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@Fox If you un-dead my brain, do I get to come back, or is somebody else going to be inhabiting my body?
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@another_sam said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
@Fox If you un-dead my brain, do I get to come back, or is somebody else going to be inhabiting my body?
How are you certain it's going to be a person?
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@another_sam I really don't know. It might be you with a different personality. It might be you unchanged. It might be you with no memories. It might be someone else with your memories. It might be someone else with your personality. Or it might just be someone else entirely. We still haven't done a very good job of figuring out what makes up you. What all is involved in creating your sense of self. Your soul, if you will. So I can't say whether that would be preserved by this treatment, because no one really knows what it is and how much it takes for it to change. That question is along the lines of asking if, assuming it's possible to teleport someone by converting them to data and transferring that data elsewhere, that rebuilt you is actually you, or if you died and there's a perfect clone of you somewhere else now. Certainly to an outside observer you may be completely unchanged, but what happens to you, your particular instance of a conscious self, is unknown because we just don't understand it enough yet.
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@kt_ said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
However, I'm very interested in reading the actual data and I can't find anything.
Probably just reiterating what's already been said, but..
The main explanation for this correlation is that during a doctors' strike elective surgeries - that is non-emergency procedures - are postponed or cancelled. All forms of surgery carries a risk, and the cancellation of these operations could mean that the deaths that might have resulted from certain procedures might have occurred in later months instead.
However this doesn't mean that a doctors' strike is somehow safer for patients.
Former King's Fund Chief Executive (and Full Fact Trustee) Baroness Neuberger has pointed out on Radio 4's More or Less that if a strike were to carry on for a long time - six months or more - death rates would be expected to return to rise as a consequence of the failure to carry out those elective surgeries.Not sure of the basis of that last sentence however.
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@Groaner said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
So far, you and @Fox got it, and do appreciate the recognition!
I did as well. I just didn't find it funny, probably because I'm German.
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@Fox said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
@boomzilla said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
I Believe In Science.
*gasp*
Actually, that's not true and it's a dumb thing to say. Science is just knowledge FFS. The scientific method is a terribly useful thing. People who say they "Believe In Science" should probably be flogged and run out on a rail.
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@boomzilla said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
Science is just knowledge
My knowledge about reading tea leafs doesn't make it science.
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@Luhmann But is it Science?
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@djls45 said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
ex-Mormons
So, the rich guy in the story of the rich guy and Lazarus, was an ex-Mormon.... got it. (actually, it fits because Mormonism gets re-revealed at different points in history, if I understand correctly)
@djls45 said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
evil despots like Hitler
Oh, so there is an arbitrary limit that doesn't have to be defined.... got it. (a combination of God is love and doesn't send people to hell, but what about this really bad dude... tyranny of the majority strikes again).
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@boomzilla said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
People who say they "Believe In Science"
For some people, science is definitely a religion.
Try to convince them... good luck.
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@xaade said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
For some people, science is definitely a religion.
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@another_sam said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
If you un-dead my brain, do I get to come back, or is somebody else going to be inhabiting my body?
Is there a difference?
From any given moment, why do you feel like the same you from a moment ago?
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@xaade yeah, they piss me off. If you treat science as infallible you're a) missing the point and b) going against the main way the scientific method gets better i.e. constant skepticism and incremental improvements
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@Jaloopa I dogboner:
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Because we don't really know how to
INSERT
, just how to trigger the body to do it. We know that when you show it something new, it usually learns the new thing all by itself, but there's no equally simple way to get it to forget something once it's learned.Oh, we know how to INSERT. Remember, SQL is a declarative language. We just don't know how the body's query optimizer works, or at least not enough to reproduce it. Just like real query optimizers!
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@FrostCat said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
How else are we gonna get all the cool mutations
95% of all mint grown commercially. Also a kind of grapefruit.
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@AyGeePlus Well, that's exactly what I was talking about, except on a larger scale!
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@Jaloopa said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
@xaade yeah, they piss me off. If you treat science as infallible you're a) missing the point and b) going against the main way the scientific method gets better i.e. constant skepticism and incremental improvements
Agreed. One of the best books I've read on the topic is The Limitations of Scientific Truth by Nigel Brush. The guy pretty explicitly distinguishes between science and Science.
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@boomzilla said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
I dogboner
I've heard that said about you, but before today I hadn't believed it.
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@djls45 said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
The guy pretty explicitly distinguishes between science and Science.
What about Science! ?
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@flabdablet said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
I've heard that said about you, but before today I hadn't believed it.
You're just too closed minded about these things you bigot!
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@mikehurley said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
What about Science! ?
A transitional form ancestral to !!SCIENCE!!
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@mikehurley said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
@djls45 said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
The guy pretty explicitly distinguishes between science and Science.
What about Science! ?
Oh, that's the magazine for Science. They do occasionally include some science, though.
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@Fox There's totally an episode of Star Trek Voyager about that.
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@boomzilla said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
No doubt some people are surprised to see that I Believe In Science.
Doesn't really surprise me. Your position on AGW, for example, is one of the more interesting and rigorous in the anti camp that I've seen, and a breath of fresh air when the mainstream argument trumpeted everywhere is, "BUT THE SCIENTISTS SAID SO!"
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@xaade said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
Some people do treat science this way. They do proselytize science.
Helpfully, there's a word for that....
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@another_sam said in Hospitals don't heal? And other questions about certain claims I can't find evidence for:
@Fox If you un-dead my brain, do I get to come back, or is somebody else going to be inhabiting my body?
The book I'm reading now, it's someone else. (The Inventor's Secret series)
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@blakeyrat I'm pretty sure there's one about the teleportation question, too.
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@Fox Tuvix, yeah. That's actually one of my favorites.
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@blakeyrat I should watch it sometime. I've seen the question come up quite a few times in other media, but I'm pretty sure Star Trek was one of the first to ask it, if not the first.
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@Fox I'm not sure Tuvix is the thing you're thinking of.
It's about two characters who get combined into one via transporter, and when they find a "fix" the debate is whether that counts as murder to reverse the process. (Since the combined guy has been on the ship several weeks.)