Waze Wars
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@Lorne-Kates said in Waze Wars:
Solution: seed false Waze reports to funnel traffic down an isolated street that no one else uses.
Didn't read the article, eh? That would work, once or twice. Then they'd be on to you, when nobody else also reported the accidents, and they'd disable your account. One of the people quoted in the article made false accident reports to keep people off his street, and they killed his account after two weeks.
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@masonwheeler said in Waze Wars:
And it's not like it's California or anything; it snows almost every year.
Only on the east side of the Cascades. Hell, it didn't snow 2015/2016. Not even in Bellingham, the north-most city.
You also have to remember with our demographics shift, between each decent-sized snow, about 20% of the population is people who moved up here from fucking California and have never seen snow before. Fucking Californians. Stay in your own shithole state.
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@Adynathos said in Waze Wars:
but to see you the bus already needs to drive past the stop, so it can not choose a shorter path.
Are you suggesting dynamically changing the route, not just "don't stop at empty stops"? Because that's a horrible idea. What happens if someone wanted to get off at a stop but the bus took a different road? You just forced everyone to tell the driver when they get on the bus (or use an app/website beforehand) what their itinerary is.
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@Adynathos said in Waze Wars:
"I am <here> along the bus line and want to use the bus, where is the nearest place I could board the bus?".
The Dallas bus line has a "when's the next bus due at stop x" feature on the web site, and a (rather obnoxious) "I want to travel from address1 to address2, what routes are available?" one.
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@boomzilla said in Waze Wars:
The GPS on my phone only ever works when the screen is turned off
You and your damned potato.
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@blakeyrat said in Waze Wars:
@masonwheeler said in Waze Wars:
And it's not like it's California or anything; it snows almost every year.
Only on the east side of the Cascades. Hell, it didn't snow 2015/2016. Not even in Bellingham, the north-most city.
You also have to remember with our demographics shift, between each decent-sized snow, about 20% of the population is people who moved up here from fucking California and have never seen snow before. Fucking Californians. Stay in your own shithole state.
I hear ya. When I was in high school, lo these many years ago, I had a friend whose dad designed funny T-shirts. One of the more popular ones had an image of I-5, under a sign: "WELCOME TO WASHINGTON. CALIFORNIANS PLEASE USE RIGHT LANE." The right lane abruptly dropped off into the water right at the state line.
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@another_sam said in Waze Wars:
Ride a bicycle you lazy buggers.
HAHAHAHAH no
Of course, I've already covered why that's not really feasible for me, although I'd do it if it were. (100°+ Dallas summer heat, and nowhere convenient to wash up when I get in. And not really a good place to store my bike, either. Driving only saves me about 3 minutes vs biking.)
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@another_sam said in Waze Wars:
I ride in summer when we usually hit 40C and in winter in sub-zero temperatures.
Do you have showering facilities at the office, or do you make do with a sink (or just marinate in your own sweat all day)?
I'd rather not ride a bike 30 miles every day, especially in the summer when temperatures regularly break 100°F.
When I lived 20 miles from work, I would've had a commute where large portions of which involved a drive on a 6-lane divided highway with soft or no shoulder, or riding on the road where the traffic moves at 50mph+. Anyone who rode a bike on that during rush hour almost deserves to be hit, except that that would cause an even worse traffic jam.
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@another_sam said in Waze Wars:
I ride in summer when we usually hit 40C and in winter in sub-zero temperatures.
Do you have showering facilities at the office, or do you make do with a sink (or just marinate in your own sweat all day)?
I'd rather not ride a bike 30 miles every day, especially in the summer when temperatures regularly break 100°F.
When I lived 20 miles from work, I would've had a commute where large portions of which involved a drive on a 6-lane divided highway with soft or no shoulder, or riding on the road where the traffic moves at 50mph+. Anyone who rode a bike on that during rush hour almost deserves to be hit, except that that would cause an even worse traffic jam.
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@anotherusername said in Waze Wars:
Does it matter? They're all far too cold to be riding a bicycle.
Nice, but the canonical response is "first one, then t'other".
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@ben_lubar What about that cat? *shudder*.
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Dallas summer heat
You too? Howdy.
My commute is from north Plano (almost to Allen), to about I635 and I75. I75 is a joke at rush hour, it's faster to take regular roads.
Filed under: NB4 Doxx
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My commute is from north Plano (almost to Allen), to about I635 and I75.
My condolences. I used to drive from Wylie to Addison via 544.
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I75 is a
jokeparking lot at rush hourI worked with a guy that would stay on the frontage road as much as possible. If he was about to hit a red light at an intersection, he'd get up on the "real" Central then immediately exit back onto the frontage road.
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Not sure if this is coincidence, but I have also lived in Fairfax and Plano. I don't miss the traffic in either place.
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Hell, let's make it a national movement. Anyone that CAN work from home, SHOULD.
It's sad when the planned communities that the private industry has cooked up have far superior traffic than the publicly planned areas.
Sad, but not really surprising.
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@sloosecannon said in Waze Wars:
Please tell me that's not a thing
Commercial touchscreen displays can be just TVs with touchscreen overlays embedded.
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@masonwheeler said in Waze Wars:
No, you sue the moron who was tailgating you. With certain very narrowly-defined exceptions, the guy behind is automatically considered liable in the event of a rear-end collision.
That's great.
Is he, the state, or the lawsuit earnings going to sit by my bed and comfort me in my agony?
If slamming on your breaks means that you end up half-dead, and entering the intersection is safe, and the light is yellow, you enter the intersection. Any government that's stupid enough to berate you for safely avoiding a wreck is stupid.
@masonwheeler said in Waze Wars:
If lawmakers had any sense at all they would treat tailgating exactly the same as drunk driving.
Yes, I'm sure in a possible head on collision, safely entering the shoulder instead of dying is the wrong response. Better to die and sue.
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@NedFodder said in Waze Wars:
If he was about to hit a red light at an intersection, he'd get up on the "real" Central then immediately exit back onto the frontage road.
Inadvertently adding to the backup on highway.
Not saying he shouldn't, but it's highways that have entries and exits in the wrong places that are contributing to the backup.
By wrong places, I mean an entry right before a light followed by an exit right after the light.
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Is he, the state, or the lawsuit earnings going to sit by my bed and comfort me in my agony?
Well, you can hire someone to do that when you win the lawsuit, if you win enough.
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@FrostCat And what if the person who hit you is an illegal immigrant without a driver's license or insurance? Can you sell their organs and reap the proceeds?
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@FrostCat I'd rather have my health.
Maybe that makes me old fashioned.
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@masonwheeler said in Waze Wars:
No, you sue the moron who was tailgating you. With certain very narrowly-defined exceptions, the guy behind is automatically considered liable in the event of a rear-end collision.
That's great.
Is he, the state, or the lawsuit earnings going to sit by my bed and comfort me in my agony?
If slamming on your breaks means that you end up half-dead, and entering the intersection is safe, and the light is yellow, you enter the intersection. Any government that's stupid enough to berate you for safely avoiding a wreck is stupid.
Do you race across intersections at 100 kph or why do you expect to be "in agony" due to someone hitting you from behind at an intersection?
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@Rhywden he is american, they race at 100mph at intersections
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Do you race across intersections at 100 kph or why do you expect to be "in agony" due to someone hitting you from behind at an intersection?
Do the people on this forum ever actually go through an intersection?
One time I was on the feeder at an overpass, and the guy at the crossroad tried to beat the red light way too late, the truck in front of me was turning left, and the crossroad guy hit him so hard they both spun. The red-light-beater was in the third lane over, so it was impossible to see him until he entered the intersection.
Yeah, I'm going to avoid being rear ended if it's safe to do so.
We're talking about a 1 or 2 second period of time during a yellow light where it's safe to enter the intersection to avoid a rear end collision, so it's not like I'm advocating running a red light here.
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@xaade I'm not seeing how your story relates to yellow lights when the guy in your story ran over a red light.
Also, not exactly a "rear ender" in your story.
If anything, this is actually an example how your "advice" is pretty harmful.
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You must not live where the commuting is bad. Before I move so close to work, I had a 60-minute commute each way, and nearly the entire 20 mile distance was stop and go city traffic, with several traffic lights every mile.
At least you have something you can reasonably blame! My 17-mile commute involves 14mi on US101. A 65mph highway. If I'm lucky, it takes 45 min. I have had Wave route me via 280 which is about 10mi longer (just once in the last 3 yrs). When going home, it will route me on surface roads past a certain intersection about 90% of the time.
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@antiquarian said in Waze Wars:
I635 and I75
twitch
Huh. I always thought it was an Interstate highway. Thanks for the
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I just got back from spending a couple days in Chicago with the fam. All I can say is, thank fuck for the CTA.
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@masonwheeler said in Waze Wars:
In Western Washington, everyone's used to rain, but the 30/30 rule applies to snow: let a single snowflake touch the asphalt anywhere in the Puget Sound region, and 30% of all drivers will instantly lose 30 points of IQ. And it's not like it's California or anything
I believe in CA it's the 100/100 rules with respect to a raindrop.
@masonwheeler said in Waze Wars:
Problem is, speed bumps annoy those who drive at 25 too. Speed bumps are annoying even if you're going 10 MPH, for that matter.
There's a couple place where I've seen speed tables - I remember a bunch in Phoenix when I visited a friend. These seemed to work very well.
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I believe in CA it's the 100/100 rules with respect to a raindrop.
That's also true in TX.
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There's a couple place where I've seen speed tables - I remember a bunch in Phoenix when I visited a friend. These seemed to work very well.
Are those the much broader, more mild version of speed bumps? Those are OK; it's a shame they're not more common.
By contrast, the parking garage at my last job had these horrible, incredibly abrupt road hazards that they probably thought were speed bumps installed on EVERY FREAKING FLOOR. They would give your car a jarring jolt even if you were only going 5 MPH when you drove over one, to the point where everyone who parked there would go out of their way to drive around them if possible, as they didn't extend into the parking stalls to either side. I remember telling myself that if I ever took my car in to be serviced and the shocks needed replacing, I swore I was going to send that garage an invoice. That's how bad they were.
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what is the population density in your city?
you talk like someone that never set a foot in a city with high population density.3400 / km^2
But which topic does this relate to?DMV is a vast, sprawling, relatively-low-density area. Wide-area mass transit isn't really feasible unless you're going to force everyone to move into apartment towers near the rail stations.
Make Park-and-ride parkings near the rail stations, so that the cars do not have to enter the city itself.
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@masonwheeler said in Waze Wars:
Are those the much broader, more mild version of speed bumps? Those are OK; it's a shame they're not more common.
Yes. The ones I remember were the entire intersection - so the rear wheels of the car were on the bump before the front wheels left it.
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@masonwheeler said in Waze Wars:
There's a couple place where I've seen speed tables - I remember a bunch in Phoenix when I visited a friend. These seemed to work very well.
Are those the much broader, more mild version of speed bumps? Those are OK; it's a shame they're not more common.
We once did a trip with a youth group to the Holmenkollen with 3 vans. I was sitting in front. Our van had fallen slightly behind and, as this was not yet the age of ubiquituous GPS, our driver was afraid of losing the others and sped up to 60 kph.
That was when we hit a speed bump.
I was looking into the rear mirror at the time and I swear it was like one of those scenes in the movies where gravity seems to stop for a short moment - everything and everyone sort of floated up a bit. It was beautiful.
Of course, gravity reminded us shortly afterwards that it did indeed exist.
Our driver promptly declined when everyone demanded to do that again...
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@Adynathos said in Waze Wars:
But which topic does this relate to?
to your solution of the buses only routing if there's someone waiting for them.
my city has 14.450,8 / km² there's literally always someone waiting for the buses.also, i confounded you with @aapis (the two nicks start with a so they must be the same
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i confounded you with @aapis
You used @aapis to confound @Adynathos? Are you using forum members like Pokémon now?
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@anotherusername If I were in charge, probably.
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@xaade For some reason I am feeling a bit cynical and out-of-sorts this last month or so.
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@antiquarian said in Waze Wars:
I635 and I75
twitch
Nothing about how Texans call it IH-635 for some unfathomable reason?
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@Dreikin look at that, i can't even english today. i tried to say that i thought he was aapis
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@masonwheeler said in Waze Wars:
Are those the much broader, more mild version of speed bumps?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHH.
Oh, were you serious? The last time I saw a speed "table" it was as high as a regular speed bump, and took up a full two-lane intersection.
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Oh, were you serious? The last time I saw a speed "table" it was as high as a regular speed bump, and took up a full two-lane intersection.
Weird. I don't think I've ever seen one of those; they must not have them out here...
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@Adynathos said in Waze Wars:
Make Park-and-ride parkings near the rail stations, so that the cars do not have to enter the city itself.
They already do. But the city sprawls enough that you can't reasonably put as many busses and trains as you'd need to get rid of the need for cars.
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DMV is a vast, sprawling, relatively-low-density area.
Yeah, at least until you get to the waiting area where the huddled masses sit waiting for their number to be called to renew their driver's licenses!
Wide-area mass transit isn't really feasible unless you're going to force everyone to move into apartment towers near the rail stations. Which some people would like to do.
Not too far from where I live, a construction company is building townhomes that are walking distance from the terminal station on the line. Starting from the low $600's! There are also some townhomes that are walking distance from where I work that start in the $700's (and a few of them are probably seven-figure properties).
That's not exactly a feasible option for most people...
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I was looking into the rear mirror at the time and I swear it was like one of those scenes in the movies where gravity seems to stop for a short moment - everything and everyone sort of floated up a bit. It was beautiful.
When I lived in Maine I knew of any number of country back roads where you could do that without a speed bump per se.
When I lived in Tampa I was going somewhere with a coworker, and he hit a speedbump hard enough--he wasn't even going terribly fast--that I hit my head on the roof of the minivan. That wasn't a lot of fun.
yes, I was wearing a seatbelt. First time I'd ever been in that car, so maybe I just didn't tighten it all the way.
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@masonwheeler said in Waze Wars:
Weird. I don't think I've ever seen one of those; they must not have them out here...
The one I saw was in Florida.
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Nothing about how Texans call it IH-635 for some unfathomable reason?
Interstate Highway is perfectly cromulent. The real question is why traffic is still so bad given that the construction is finished.
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@antiquarian said in Waze Wars:
Interstate Highway is perfectly cromulent.
Except that the rest of the country doesn't bother with the H--it would just be I-635 anywhere else you go.
@antiquarian said in Waze Wars:
The real question is why traffic is still so bad given that the construction is finished.
I blame the snarl around High Five. Everywhere else I've been on 635 lately had decent traffic, but I've only been on it twice in the last year.
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