:wtf: How can this be so wrong??? (AKA the Discopocalypse thread)
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@PleegWat Pfft, they're more what you call "guidelines" than actual rules anyway and therefore can be completely ignored.
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@Arantor said in How can this be so wrong??? (AKA the Discopocalypse thread):
can be completely ignored.
Unless Jeff notices an issue, then it must be fixed...
@end said in The Bikeshed:
I definitely agree that name mentions are very hard to read cc @tgxworld.
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@loopback0 said in How can this be so wrong??? (AKA the Discopocalypse thread):
Unless Jeff notices a
n issuesomething he doesn't likeFTFY. HTH, HAND, etc.
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"I have a bug."
"You're doing it wrong"
"I don't think so. BTW, why does my bug reports get silently deleted? I've reported two other bugs and their threads just disappearez"
"It's not a bug. You're doing it wrong"Eventually, sam steps in
"I can repro"Then @end:
"I can't. Not a bug.""Well, actually, it is a bug, reported in another thread."
@end: "Finally, an actual bug! It is a miracle "
@end: topic closed.
@sam: re-opening to see if others report similar things
@end: this topic should not be open. Closed! Archived!Not really sure what to make of this...
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@end said:
Why do you need to open those links from the history view? The purpose of that view is comparing versions not opening links.
Only Atwood would claim that clicking links is Doing It Wrong™
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@RaceProUK What do you mean I can't use a hammer as a nail-driver as well as a corrective-actions-impliment? Just because one of those two uses might be more illegal than the other doesn't mean I'm .
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@Mikael_Svahnberg said in How can this be so wrong??? (AKA the Discopocalypse thread):
Not really sure what to make of this...
That guy's time at fail.d is short.
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A bug by definition is something that is a problem with normal use, and clicking links in revision history modals is not normal use.
Holy fuck shit.
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@Yamikuronue said in How can this be so wrong??? (AKA the Discopocalypse thread):
A bug by definition is something that is a problem with normal use, and clicking links in revision history modals is not normal use.
Holy fuck shit.
what is... but i... that doesn't even.... what?!
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@boomzilla said in How can this be so wrong??? (AKA the Discopocalypse thread):
That guy's time at fail.d is short.
I think he's trying to shorten it even more
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I guess the best solution would be to not show revision history
Sure. For a limited definition of best. This guy would make a good Discodev.
If you want some magical switch to flip so every single link on the internet opens in a new tab
Yes, that's exactly what he's after Jeff.
PS bonus points for finding another way to break links in a web browser.
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@accalia said in How can this be so wrong??? (AKA the Discopocalypse thread):
what is... but i... that doesn't even.... what?!
Why are you people so surprised that @end made up his own definition for a word? It's not as if @blakeyrat didn't do the same thing (albeit his definition is slightly different...although when you think about it, "a bug is behavior I don't like" actually isn't all that different from Jeff's definition.)
Oooh, I proved Jeff is Blakey.
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@FrostCat said in How can this be so wrong??? (AKA the Discopocalypse thread):
Oooh, I proved Jeff is Blakey.
Everyone is Blakey's alt.
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@Mikael_Svahnberg said in How can this be so wrong??? (AKA the Discopocalypse thread):
He
Who? That's ambiguous :P
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The site header is present on every page and our benchmarks showed that it often took up 1/4 of the initial rendering time of a Discourse page.
Since this is a major re-write, the odds of it including regressions are quite high, so I'd like to warn everyone now that if you are following the tests-passed branch of Discourse you might want to wait a few days before updating unless you are comfortable helping us track down bugs.
Well, at least they're kind of developing in a sane manner, going for low hanging fruit and aware that there might be problems?
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Several of the Discostaffers tried asking for help on SO, to figure out how to tell if new code had regressions before they released it to
customerssuckers, but Jeff came along and closed the question as a duplicate.
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@izzion I'm just constantly amazed at the places they find taking up significant portions of rendering time. What's in the site header that should take that much time to render in the first place?
Unless, of course, it is an indirect boast: "see, we render posts so quickly that it's the header that takes time!"
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@izzion said in How can this be so wrong??? (AKA the Discopocalypse thread):
unless you are comfortable helping us track down bugs
IT'S A TRAP!
Don't reveal yourself, brothers and sisters. The false prophet tells lies. The purge is nigh!
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@Mikael_Svahnberg said in How can this be so wrong??? (AKA the Discopocalypse thread):
What's in the site header that should take that much time to render in the first place?
123908 JS libraries, like the rest of it, I'd imagine. Can't over-engineer it without them.
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@izzion said in How can this be so wrong??? (AKA the Discopocalypse thread):
tests-passed
@izzion said in How can this be so wrong??? (AKA the Discopocalypse thread):
track down bugs.
Maybe try adding some tests before creating a branch called tests-passed?
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But, they're not wrong... the build did pass 100% of the tests they ran it through.
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@izzion division by 0 is a tricky concept, so undefined% technically
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@Jaloopa said in How can this be so wrong??? (AKA the Discopocalypse thread):
@izzion division by 0 is a tricky concept, so undefined% technically
nah. there's one test. it tests that if you add 1 and 1 you get three, and it's set to ignore failure so the test harness reports 100% pass rate
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@izzion said in How can this be so wrong??? (AKA the Discopocalypse thread):
Since this is a major re-write, the odds of it including regressions are quite high,
@izzion said in How can this be so wrong??? (AKA the Discopocalypse thread):
tests-passed
Possibly rhetorical (and I notice,) but what are the tests testing for, if not (at least in part) for regressions?
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@PJH If you didn't have tests how could you have a tests-passed branch? Seems pretty obvious to me.
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@boomzilla Test 1: does it compile?
Test 2: was the PR accepted?
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New in Discourse 1.61: bikeshedding must occur in twos!
1Note, not actually new in Discourse 1.6
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@end said:
No need, the requirement is that we can only add columns in twos, so just come up with another useful column of info to display here.
Is he building an Ark?
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@RaceProUK I can't imagine a Discoark would float for long.
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We seem to be taking on water
That can't be possible, we passed the tests
Maybe it was those meddling testers
Ban WTDWTF!
glub
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@RaceProUK said in How can this be so wrong??? (AKA the Discopocalypse thread):
Is he building an Ark?
They have their top men working on it. Top. Men.
Wait...wrong ark.
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@accalia said in How can this be so wrong??? (AKA the Discopocalypse thread):
@Jaloopa said in How can this be so wrong??? (AKA the Discopocalypse thread):
@izzion division by 0 is a tricky concept, so undefined% technically
nah. there's one test. it tests that if you add 1 and 1 you get three, and it's set to ignore failure so the test harness reports 100% pass rate
I bet it's like DFHack where all the automated tests test is coding style.
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@ben_lubar said in How can this be so wrong??? (AKA the Discopocalypse thread):
I bet it's like DFHack where all the automated tests test is coding st
I figured out how to test notifications for nodebb. It's a PITA, because there's a built in one second delay. Plus I had to fake out a socket.io call.
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@RaceProUK said in How can this be so wrong??? (AKA the Discopocalypse thread):
twos
Is he building an Ark?
That's a myth. It was in sevens, unless they were unclean - then it was in twos. That said, could Discourse be described as clean?
Anyway, no idea what category the dinosaurs and unicorns fit into however...
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@boomzilla Unfortunately the Discoark isn't lost yet.
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@PJH said in How can this be so wrong??? (AKA the Discopocalypse thread):
Anyway, no idea what category the dinosaurs and unicorns fit into however...
their invitation got lost in the mail.
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Is this the same tagging plugin which we
broketested?
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@PJH said in How can this be so wrong??? (AKA the Discopocalypse thread):
Anyway, no idea what category the dinosaurs and unicorns fit into however...
There were green alligators, and long-necked geese. Some monkeys and camels and some chimpanzees. Some bats and rats and elephants, but sure as you're born-- you're never going to see no unicorn.
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@JBert said in How can this be so wrong??? (AKA the Discopocalypse thread):
Is this the same tagging plugin which we
broketested?I don't think we ever implemented it on here - after testing it on another instance and finding it woefully inadequate I decided not to bother with it.
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@PJH
You say "inadequate", Jeff says "integrate in core".:That was the joke: .
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Letters CDN Down! Alphabet emergency!
Not sure if this is related to the recent ImageMagick security issue, or just a server having a hard time, but we're getting Server 500 errors on random images on our hosted instance.
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OK, guys, deep inspection of the ABCdn logs shows that the service is running out of letters, we need solutions
Wait, we have logs? When were those implemented? Riking, did you set that up?
Uh, I had them on during initial development, but the server choked once we went live, so I had to throw the logs overboard
I'm looking at the logs right here. "Print error, unable to load text driver"
Print error? What log are you looking at?
thinking furiously: I need an answer... let's try my trusty friend
Unclear, please try again later
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@boomzilla How do you even get 500 error on a CDN static file server?
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@Adynathos said in How can this be so wrong??? (AKA the Discopocalypse thread):
static file server?
I don't think you understand the depth of discourse fuckery yet. Re-read and try to come to grips with it a bit more.
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To be fair, I assume @Adynathos is using the definition of static found in a dictionary not whatever garbage fire is raging in -Pope's head at any given moment.
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@Adynathos
Serious answer: they're not static images
WTDWTF answer: because
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@Adynathos said in How can this be so wrong??? (AKA the Discopocalypse thread):
@boomzilla How do you even get 500 error on a CDN static file server?
The Bikeshed Color Changer TM must have run out of memory.
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@Adynathos said in How can this be so wrong??? (AKA the Discopocalypse thread):
@boomzilla How do you even get 500 error on a CDN static file server?
Discourse.
Also as pointed out they're not static files. That would be too simple.
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avatars was having a bit of a sad due to patching the IM bug, but everything should be solid again now.
If only there was a way for part of a content delivery network to stay functional while another part of it was patched.