More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense
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@boomzilla said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
Oh shit. Should I be worried that I'm planning to wait until this evening or tomorrow morning to apply these‽
Your computer is likely already on fire and infected with ISIS. Best to just burn it and get a new one. It is the only way to be sure.
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@Polygeekery But I don't have a switch next to my plug. Should I risk it and pull the plug out anyways?
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@boomzilla said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
But I don't have a switch next to my plug. Should I risk it and pull the plug out anyways?
You have waited this long. It is probably best to either shoot it, or pour iron filings in the power supply.
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@Polygeekery said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
pour iron filings in the power supply.
This really needs to be on YouTube. With a bit of magnesium filings, too.
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@mott555 It probably is. There is a YT channel about a bunch of guys making strange bullets and firing them. There has to be one for that sort of stuff.
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@flabdablet said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
@Jaloopa I remain blissfully unaware of any in-the-wild malware that would ever have been capable of finding its way into the guts of my Debian desktop. Care to destroy my insufferable Linux-user smugness with a cite?
He'll probably tell you about Heartbleed, Shellshock and POODLE.
But then you can tell him about
- January 2016 : 7 Remote Code Execution
- February 2016 : 7 Remote Code Execution
- March 2016 : 9 Remote Code Execution
- April 2016 : 9 Remote Code Execution
Now you know why, in Windows land, whenever there is a security update, you can't just stand there shooting aliens.
You need to APPLY AND REBOOT ASAP !
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@flabdablet said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
@boomzilla I got sick of the Ubuntu regularly-upgrade-everything model and moved to Debian Testing, which is essentially a rolling release. I like it much better. Have you used it?
I'm on debian testing. Thumbs up.
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What's a Linux?
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@Lorne-Kates said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
What's a Linux?
Is this kid that plays on a piano or something?
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@boomzilla said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
Kubuntu 14.04 LTS. I'll probably upgrade to 16.04 sometime next month. I've learned not to jump too fast on those releases and I've generally been quite satisfied with 14.04, so why bother to upgrade?
Well, be careful. I've had Kubuntu 12.04 LTS for a while, and when I tried to upgrade it to 14.04 LTS the upgrader crashed and left my system unbootable. Since then I've switched to plain Debian. Its official upgrades are done via the command line, but at least that is robust and they have an excellent instruction manual.
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@Grunnen said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
I've had Kubuntu 12.04 LTS for a while, and when I tried to upgrade it to 14.04 LTS the upgrader crashed and left my system unbootable
I've had similar experiences. If worst comes to worst, I'll just download an installer from another machine and install fresh. Or maybe that's when I'll make the jump to debian. That's future 's problem.
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@cartman82 said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
I'm on debian testing. Thumbs up.
I'm more paranoid than you, I'm on Debian Stable. Because... STABILITY
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@TimeBandit do you use X screensaver too? Have you been warned it's out of date?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
@Lorne-Kates said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
What's a Linux?
Is this kid that plays on a piano or something?
He's learning.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
@Lorne-Kates said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
What's a Linux?
Is this kid that plays on a piano or something?
Pretty sure it's an old man who screams at people.
Edit: wait, is it possible to tell the difference/
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@Grunnen said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
when I tried to upgrade it to 14.04 LTS the upgrader crashed and left my system unbootable.
I see shit like this and just think: this is obviously so much better than Windows...
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@dcon said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
Pretty sure it's an old man who screams at people.
ITYM clouds?
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@sloosecannon said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
ITYM clouds?
I don't think clouds scream at people.
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@dcon said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
I see shit like this and just think: this is obviously so much better than Windows...
It permanently solved his auto-reboot issues, I can tell you that.
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@loopback0 said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
@sloosecannon said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
ITYM clouds?
I don't think clouds scream at people.
Ahahahaha hahah....
I see what you did there.
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@Arantor said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
@TimeBandit do you use X screensaver too?
No, but it's seem to be installed. I use whatever comes with KDE.
Have you been warned it's out of date?
No.
It's Debian stable, pretty much everything is out of date
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@TimeBandit said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
pretty much everything is out of date
WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE SECURITIEZZZZZZ?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!!?
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@TimeBandit You don't use Windows because 'lol insekyurrrrr', yet you sit happily on a Linux distro that's older than @boomzilla.
Right…
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@dcon said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
@Grunnen said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
when I tried to upgrade it to 14.04 LTS the upgrader crashed and left my system unbootable.
I see shit like this and just think: this is obviously so much better than Windows...
It is complete shit. But to be fair, Kubuntu supposedly is an unsupported side project of Ubuntu, so that problems should be expected.
And for the rest, there have been substantial improvements in the last 2-3 years. At the moment the only complaint I have about Linux is that it doesn't come with exhaustive handwriting definitions for Asian characters, but that's really a minor complaint.
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@RaceProUK said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
@TimeBandit You don't use Windows because 'lol insekyurrrrr', yet you sit happily on a Linux distro that's older than @boomzilla.
I'm not understanding the problem here.
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@boomzilla The older software is, the more unpatched exploits there are waiting to be exploited
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@RaceProUK Debian backports the patches for security holes.
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@RaceProUK said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
@boomzilla The older software is, the more unpatched exploits there are waiting to be exploited
Is that how Windows does it?
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@RaceProUK said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
@TimeBandit You don't use Windows because 'lol insekyurrrrr', yet you sit happily on a Linux distro that's older than @boomzilla.
Right…
You are wrong on so many level, it's not even funny.
From Debian's website :
The stable distribution contains the latest officially released distribution of Debian.
This is the production release of Debian, the one which we primarily recommend using.
The current stable distribution of Debian is version 8, codenamed jessie. It was initially released as version 8 on April 25th, 2015 and its latest update, version 8.4, was released on April 2nd, 2016.
For your information, every security update from upstream is merged into Debian stable.
You see, Debian's team take security AND stability very seriously.
That's why even upgrading from a major version to another one NEVER EVER BREAKS.
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@TimeBandit Oh, so Debian have brought stable into the 21st century? About time.
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@RaceProUK If only MS could take note and do the same thing with Windows
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@loopback0 Just did that for the first time myself. I left it alone at the time it suggested, and an hour before it popped up "Reminder: we're going to update in an hour, click here if you need to reschedule". All in all, a pleasant experience, much improved from previous iterations. 7/10 would update again.
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@Yamikuronue said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
and an hour before it popped up "Reminder: we're going to update in an hour, click here if you need to reschedule"
What were you doing at 2:30a in the morning?!
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@bb36e said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
maybe by windows 11, they can make it so the machine doesn't have to reboot to install updates?
this seems like it should be a solved problem.
Hell, I'd settle for Power Management that actually works. They've been on it since at least XP and it still isn't right.
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The power went out while I was 20 minutes into a 25 minute Guild Wars 2 story instance.
That was at 21:58. The power came back on within seconds. My computer got to the login screen at 22:17.
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@ben_lubar said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
That was at 21:58. The power came back on within seconds. My computer got to the login screen at 22:17.
*grumble privileged SSD users grumble*
Filed under: 2 minutes to usable desktop on this copy of Windows 10
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@ben_lubar said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
The power went out while I was 20 minutes into a 25 minute Guild Wars 2 story instance.
That was at 21:58. The power came back on within seconds. My computer got to the login screen at 22:17.
That's why real gamers always have their machines and router pluged to UPS... but it won't survive the network loss unless you also live in a building that has datacenter on other floors. (The datacenter of those buildings will pay to have the building's router plugged on UPS too, just to save network lost on such 1-second electricity outage)
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@cheong said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
router pluged to UPS
Yes. In theory all my network crap should last four hours (and the server about 40 minutes) off the grid. Theory doesn't quite match reality though, I think the main UPS self-kills due to overheating () because it lasts like 5 minutes before abruptly turning off...
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I've become a mac fag, so I solved it that way.
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@lucas1 You're Scottish now?
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I fucking hate Microsoft. There isn't a living brain cell among them.
Today's adventure involves restarting to install updates without any warning. Close down all brianw13a's development tools and restart without asking. Color me surprised because I was in the middle of looking into reasons screens were missing. Then it got really fun. Dev software wouldn't even start up. Thanks you bunch of pretentious Microsoft assholes.
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@brianw13a said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
I fucking hate Microsoft. There isn't a living brain cell among them.
Today's adventure involves restarting to install updates without any warning. Close down all brianw13a's development tools and restart without asking. Color me surprised because I was in the middle of looking into reasons screens were missing. Then it got really fun. Dev software wouldn't even start up. Thanks you bunch of pretentious Microsoft assholes.
ib4 two-page flamewar on how you're obviously making that up and it never happens because Microsoft is perfect.
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@mott555 said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
@brianw13a said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
I fucking hate Microsoft. There isn't a living brain cell among them.
Today's adventure involves restarting to install updates without any warning. Close down all brianw13a's development tools and restart without asking. Color me surprised because I was in the middle of looking into reasons screens were missing. Then it got really fun. Dev software wouldn't even start up. Thanks you bunch of pretentious Microsoft assholes.
ib4 two-page flamewar on how you're obviously making that up and it never happens because Microsoft is perfect.
It is all my fault. I'm not nearly as smart as microsoft when it comes to how I use my computer. I should just accept that they know what's best for me.
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@brianw13a Is this your machine, or did your IT do something dumb?
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@Magus said in More Windows 10 auto-update auto-reboot nonsense:
@brianw13a Is this your machine, or did your IT do something dumb?
This is all mine. Stock install of Windows 7 Pro about 2 weeks ago. Nothing changed just software installed.
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@brianw13a Then it probably is your fault. You could have rebooted yesterday.
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@Magus I hope that's a joke.
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@brianw13a Unfortunately, it's not a joke, it's the way you have to work with Windows.
Finished your day's work ? Close everything and reboot.
Going out for lunch ? Close everything and reboot.
Going in a meeting ? Close everything and reboot.
Going to the bathroom ? Close everything and reboot.
Want to shoot aliens ? You guessed itAt least, that's what I understood from all the brainwashed Windows users around here.