Everything is Atom and Atom is everything
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http://venturebeat.com/2016/03/28/githubs-atom-text-editor-hits-1-million-monthly-active-users/
What the hell are these people smoking?
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@cartman82 Not sure, but I'm sure it's based on Atom!
Filed under: Did the red boob just jiggle as the editor opened?
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@Onyx It always has, which is probably how it got the name.
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I remember trying it out. It lags badly on the default install, so I never used it. Also when I used it it enforces separate windows for separate projects and it does this thing where it remembers which windows you had open when you close and reopen it so it's like a tray icon app but not really...?
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I can't wait until I'm shunned for not using it.
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@LB_ said in Everything is Atom and Atom is everything:
I remember trying it out. It lags badly on the default install, so I never used it.
"Atom is a desktop application built with HTML, JavaScript, CSS, and Node.js integration."
But it combines all the best technologies to create a fast and responsive editor!
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@cartman82 said in Everything is Atom and Atom is everything:
http://venturebeat.com/2016/03/28/githubs-atom-text-editor-hits-1-million-monthly-active-users/
What the hell are these people smoking?
It looks like one of those "if you liked this, you might also be interested in" sections to do some extra namedropping.
Both sentences are technically correct but the author was just foolish enough to put them next to eachother. I don't think they wanted to state that it's all Atom, it's just crappy writing.
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@LB_ said in Everything is Atom and Atom is everything:
I remember trying it out. It lags badly on the default install, so I never used it.
They made it faster now. Might even be Node improvements, Vivaldi did the same thing for me, used to lag horribly, now it's fine. And yes, I feel silly using Node-based shit as a desktop application but damn it, apparently everyone who can make a good UI is only doing HTML/CSS these days, apparently.
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@Onyx said in Everything is Atom and Atom is everything:
apparently everyone who can make a good UI is only doing HTML/CSS these days, apparently.
Apparently you're saying Atom has good UI, apparently.
Could you BE any more wrong? said in Chandler's voice and manner
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@Onyx apparently not given the clusterfuckery of "modern website UX" like Discourse, NodeBB etc. where a lot of paradigms are being reinvented, relearned and nothing significant has changed.
For example, whizzy shiny features like infiniscroll are shiny and whizzy but they also lean on the modern crutch that Facebook and Twitter popularised; that only what's current is what's important.
Discourse, NodeBB (to a lesser extent than Discourse), Facebook, Twitter all push this firehose of stuff deal. Say what you like about toxic hell stew forums but they do one thing well that none of the modern lot does: categorisation.
Sure, Discourse, NodeBB have categories. But it's sufficiently under promoted that it might almost be a labelling system, a way of tagging topics broadly rather than more specifically like actual tags.
There is UX benefit to categorisation, especially in certain types of community, in a way the modern UI people don't seem to get.
Lessons need to be relearned, and as much as we rage on blakeyrat for his raged on "all modern software is shit", we are getting worse at information communication, the one thing interface is supposed to do... And failing.
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@kt_ Sorry, I meant Vivaldi, not Atom.
I'm currently giving Atom a chance only because Sublime is being a total when accessing files over a sshfs mounted volume.
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@cartman82 This may blow your damn mind but you're made of Atoms too.
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@Yamikuronue I'm not. I'm mostly molecules
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@Onyx said in Everything is Atom and Atom is everything:
@kt_ Sorry, I meant Vivaldi, not Atom.
No problem. ()Vivaldi actually looks quite nice. And it's good all year round, all 4 seasons!
Filed under: sorry, someone had to do it.
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@Yamikuronue I'm not made of atoms. I'm made of starstuff.
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@Arantor said in Everything is Atom and Atom is everything:
@Yamikuronue I'm not made of atoms. I'm made of starstuff.
And I'm made of the clay my good God formed me out of.
Filed Under: OK, sorry, I appleigize
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@sloosecannon ow, that hurt. Ow!
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@Arantor What do you think stars are made of?
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@Yamikuronue said in Everything is Atom and Atom is everything:
@Arantor What do you think stars are made of?
Star stuff obviously
Calling @Lorne-Kates! We have two boobs on screen.
Three!
Four! It's a christmas miracle!
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@Yamikuronue said in Everything is Atom and Atom is everything:
What do you think stars are made of?
the majority of stars are made of plasma, which ahs some super weird properties not normally associated with baryonic matter. one really unusual thing about plasma is electrons become unbound from nuclei, so you just have a sea of electrons and nuclei floating around, which at that point would no longer qualify as atoms under several definitions of atoms.
This is probably true for hydrogen1 as the nucleus is a bare proton, and i can even see the argument for Helium4 as that is what we usually call a alpha particle in nuclear physics but i personally find it rather hard to lump all the other elements made in stars into that category, and to be francine i even have a hard time accepting it for helium.
nevertheless i do admit that there is a valid argument for that to be the case even if i don't agree with it.
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@accalia said in Everything is Atom and Atom is everything:
you just have a sea of electrons and nuclei floating around,
Okay, that's fair. If Arantor is made of plasma, that might explain how he's able to tolerate PhP?
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@JBert said in Everything is Atom and Atom is everything:
It looks like one of those "if you liked this, you might also be interested in" sections to do some extra namedropping.
Both sentences are technically correct but the author was just foolish enough to put them next to eachother. I don't think they wanted to state that it's all Atom, it's just crappy writing.
To me it looks more like they wanted to, but without explicitly saying it, to keep their ass covered.
Reminds me of some brand of headache medicine that did everything in its power to suggest it acted faster than other headache medicines, without explicitly stating it because they knew it was bullshit.
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@Arantor said in Everything is Atom and Atom is everything:
Sure, Discourse, NodeBB have categories. But it's sufficiently under promoted that it might almost be a labelling system, a way of tagging topics broadly rather than more specifically like actual tags.
I think they're CSS'd or otherwise configured away here. When I played with a fresh NodeBB install on my own time, it had first-class categories just like any other toxic hellstew PHP forum, and it did it well, too.
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Actually, I think all those projects are built more on electrons than on atoms.
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@mott555 said in Everything is Atom and Atom is everything:
Actually, I think all those projects are built more on electrons than on atoms.
"Made using 100% free-range electrons.โข"
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@mott555 The default view here is set to
/recent
whereas on NodeBB's own site the default is/categories
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@RaceProUK Of course the sensible thing to set it to is
unread
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@Jaloopa have you tried it? Did it work? It was buggy af for me.
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@Buddy Yeah, works fine. It looks like there might be a limit of 100 or so topics, which meant older ones kept coming through after @ben_lubar changed the timeout to 90 days, but now I've dismissed older threads again it's mostly OK. Here's the bugs I've noticed:
Sometimes, especially if the browser's been minimised, the unread topics don't update. Refresh sorts this
Clicking the "there are new/unread threads" toaster acts like a page navigation, filling up my Back history with lots of/unread
entries and annoying me. Refreshing instead of clicking the toaster sorts this
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@Jaloopa said in Everything is Atom and Atom is everything:
the unread topics don't update
That's what I was getting. Except for me it wasn't โsometimesโ, which made the whole thing pointless (why link to a page that id need to refresh every single time?).
Also it didn't display the stored custom home page when I went back to settings, neither the drop down nor the text field.
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@mott555 Click 'categories' at the top. Our default view is 'recent'.
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VS Code is pretty nice. I mainly use Sublime these days due to the python extensibility.
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Wait, everything is Tetsuwan Atom? TIL
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"Give your bodies to Atom, my friends. Release yourself to his power, feel his Glow and be Divided."