Infinite Flamewar
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Our main right-wing party recently renamed itself The Republicans (straight translation). And you (the Poles) can't stop us from exporting them, we're in the EU.
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https://youtu.be/qFmJo9RPBIo
[Infinite War - Corrosion of Conformity]
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Our main right-wing party is named exactly like its leader. Try to top that!
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Before I answer this question, we need to agree what it means to be Republican. From what I've seen, all the political terms are totally different on each side of the pond.
It's the lesser of the two major evils. Ultimately exists to say they're against what the other side means to get elected, but then just does what the other side does, but more slowly. For the most part.
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Sorry, we've kinda filled our quota of conservative whackjobs.
Too bad for you, he's a non-conservative whackjob!
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All the liberals I know complain about Trump being a far-right conservative whackjob. And all the conservatives I know complain about Trump being a leftist liberal who's pretending to be a centerist. I no longer have the attention span to try to understand politics.
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can we export Donald Trump to you guys?
Are you crazy? He's the most fun that's happened to politics since probably Ross Perot!
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nano FTW!
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Especially that I don't really believe in what I'm arguing for. Probably there are other people in that topic that do the same.
People who don't believe arguing as if they do. People who do believe presenting a neutral, third-party, "This is what X teaches." Gotta love us trolls.
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There's a difference between being a troll and being a devil's advocate.
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conservative and liberal whackjobs ... DNR
I'd be in favor of DNR for pretty much all politicians.
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This is a good one because both sides are blatantly insane.
vim wins hard at expert productivity - very hard. all you need to do is switch to the Korn shell to get used to doing everything with ed/sed commands, for a few months, then productivity city.
@Jarry said:nano FTW!
nano, on the other hand, wins the first time then loses forever, kind of like someone playing Babytown Frolics for the fun of it.
@mott555 said:I no longer have the attention span to try to understand politics.
Trump is a center-right racist whackjob.
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Paging @HardwareGeek to reply with something that starts with "Actually..." and ends with a long explanation of the etymology of the word.
Well, if you insist.
Actually...
liberal (adj.)
mid-14c., "generous," also, late 14c., "selfless; noble, nobly born; abundant," and, early 15c., in a bad sense "extravagant, unrestrained," from Old French liberal "befitting free men, noble, generous, willing, zealous" (12c.), from Latin liberalis "noble, gracious, munificent, generous," literally "of freedom, pertaining to or befitting a free man," from liber "free, unrestricted, unimpeded; unbridled, unchecked, licentious," from PIE **leudh-ero-*, probably originally "belonging to the people" (though the precise semantic development is obscure; compare frank (adj.)), and a suffixed form of the base *leudh- "people" (cognates: Old Church Slavonic ljudu, Lithuanian liaudis, Old English leod, German Leute "nation, people;" Old High German liut "person, people").With the meaning "free from restraint in speech or action," liberal was used 16c.-17c. as a term of reproach. It revived in a positive sense in the Enlightenment, with a meaning "free from prejudice, tolerant," which emerged 1776-88.
In reference to education, explained by Fowler as "the education designed for a gentleman (Latin liber a free man) & ... opposed on the one hand to technical or professional or any special training, & on the other to education that stops short before manhood is reached" (see liberal arts). Purely in reference to political opinion, "tending in favor of freedom and democracy" it dates from c. 1801, from French libéral, originally applied in English by its opponents (often in French form and with suggestions of foreign lawlessness) to the party favorable to individual political freedoms. But also (especially in U.S. politics) tending to mean "favorable to government action to effect social change," which seems at times to draw more from the religious sense of "free from prejudice in favor of traditional opinions and established institutions" (and thus open to new ideas and plans of reform), which dates from 1823.
Conservative, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. [Ambrose Bierce, "Devil's Dictionary," 1911]
(Copy-pastad from http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=liberal, because I'm lazy this morning, but at least I fixed the formatting.)
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>But also (especially in U.S. politics) tending to mean "favorable to government action to effect social change,"
... and 'in a bad sense "extravagant, unrestrained,"' with other people's money.
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vim wins hard at expert productivity - very hard. all you need to do is switch to the Korn shell to get used to doing everything with ed/sed commands, for a few months, then productivity city.
You know what else helps productivity? Not spending months and months learning how to use a fucking text editor.
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Trump is a center-right racist whackjob.
Yikes! He's more center-left than center-right. In America. You pinko foreigners don't count.
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I am going to eat Hot Links until you recognize me as an American.
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SMH. ITYM boneless buffalo wings.
Fuck. Boneless...what bullshit. Modern pansies can't even bear to eat their meat off of the bones. Might as well just eat soylent and never wash your goddamned clothes.
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@DogsB said:
Is there a party for keeping the Irish out?
No, but there are like five for keeping the Muslims out.How about the Irish Muslims?
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Bar-S Hot Links - look it up, I CBA and you will be well rewarded. Enjoyed by me and every large-breed dog I have ever fed one too.
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Yeah, if you don't deal with a lot of text, that can work out alright. Programmers tend to deal with large amounts of text, if they're outside the trivial hobbyist realm.
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all you need to do is switch to the Korn shell to get used to doing everything with ed/sed commands
Whut? I use Korn shell most of the time, and don't need such arcane commands.
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Whut? I use Korn shell most of the time, and don't need such arcane commands.
Then you're obviously not using it right.
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@loopback0 said:
Whut? I use Korn shell most of the time, and don't need such arcane commands.
Then you're obviously not using it right.Well it means I'm using UNIX so yeah, definitely Doing It Wrong™.
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Probly somebody has put on some set of keybindings that detract from the pure never leaving the home keys glory that the experience should be. (Except for escape, but pros get a pedal for that.)
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Pros use Windows.
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True, except that pros use OS X.
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Well now we're just back at UNIX.
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How about the Irish Muslims?
Well, considering Dublin is basically Polish colony at this point, I guess they'd be banished too.
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Well, considering Dublin is basically Polish colony at this point, I guess they'd be banished too.
I for one welcome our new Polish overloads.
@tar said:How about the Irish Muslims?
Fuck those guys
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As a partial Pole, I accept your fealty with grace and disdain.
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This is the brace and indentation style:
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I for one welcome our new Polish overloads.
They're hardly overlords if they wash your dishes.
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As a partial Pole, I accept your fealty with grace and disdain.
Jesus fucking h christ what the fuck have you done to my eyes.
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This is the brace and indentation style:
I for one welcome our new Polish overloads.
That's what they want you to think. We all saw what happened with the mice and dolphins.They're hardly overlords if they wash your dishes.
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Jesus fucking h christ what the fuck have you done to my eyes.
Opened them. You're welcome.
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@Gribnit said:
@loopback0 said:
Whut? I use Korn shell most of the time, and don't need such arcane commands.
Then you're obviously not using it right.Well it means I'm using UNIX so yeah, definitely Doing It Wrong™.
I don't use ksh, but I use bash a lot, and I'm not using UNIX (or Linux or OS X).
Filed under: Cygwin, FTW!, I could use ksh if I wanted to.
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POSIX compatible - for certain intents and purposes, that's a unix.
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All the liberals I know complain about Trump being a far-right conservative whackjob. And all the conservatives I know complain about Trump being a leftist liberal who's pretending to be a centerist. I no longer have the attention span to try to understand politics.
I don't understand it either, but what you mention is normal. Neither group can comprehend a possible third option. Back in my libertarian days, I was routinely accused of being conservative by liberals, and of being liberal by conservatives.
Conservative, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. [Ambrose Bierce, "Devil's Dictionary," 1911]
Still true after more than 100 years.
You know what else helps productivity? Not spending months and months learning how to use a fucking text editor.
To be fair, it's something you only have to do once, and you can learn as you go. You don't have to stop editing stuff for 6 months until you master vim or emacs. If you use the GUI versions you can pretty much get to a notepad level of productivity immediately.
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I've often said that the only proper support any politician deserves is from six men wearing black armbands.
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A-bomb just went off in there.
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Were the Democrats the ones who decided to sink 1.5 trillion dollars into the F-35 project and then allow them to get 7 years behind schedule and 160 billion dollars overbudget? Probably not, since the contract was awarded to Lockheed Martin under the Bush administration.
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What happened to your bra?
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Were the Democrats the ones who decided to sink 1.5 trillion dollars into the F-35 project and then allow them to get 7 years behind schedule and 160 billion dollars overbudget? Probably not, since the contract was awarded to Lockheed Martin under the Bush administration.
Seems like an overly simplistic reading...
http://www.stopthef35.com/stop-f-35-protest-democratic-party-fundraiser/
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/17/us/politics/17-f-35-engine.html?_r=0
But in some ways, the votes of the Republican freshmen also broke down just like those of veteran members in both parties, with jobs in their states a primary concern.
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Top Democratic senators, like Carl Levin of Michigan, the chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, and Daniel K. Inouye of Hawaii, the chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee, have generally backed the engine.
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But Senator John McCain of Arizona and other Republicans have repeatedly sought to block it, and military analysts said G.E. and Rolls-Royce now face an uphill battle.
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While I agree that there are bigger political issues than the us vs. them mentality that dominates the current Congress on both sides of the aisle, the most interesting factor in the entire JSF project were the main reason given (officially!) for the selection of the F-35 over the more or less equal-performance F-32: that Lockheed would probably go under if they were given the contract, while Boeing was financially secure with their viable civilian business. Less officially, the appearance of the F-32 may have been a factor as well, as it simply didn't look intimidating enough for the services. I guess that all the testing they did (at a cost of (3 Billion) was for nothing, huh?
Interestingly, the one factor that should have had been a strike against Lockheed - the greater production and maintenance costs - were actually seen favorably, as it was thought to be economically beneficial. ? If that isn't corporate welfare, I don't know what is.
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It is as though you think businesses should behave altruistically.
Those are called charities. Businesses are different types of entities. They exist to make money.
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Interestingly, the one factor that should have had been a strike against Lockheed - the greater production and maintenance costs - were actually seen favorably, as it was thought to be economically beneficial. ? If that isn't corporate welfare, I don't know what is.
Indeed it is. But then, when you have Nobel prize winning economists saying we should prepare for alien invasion to get out of a slump, can you blame them?
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Honestly, it's not a terrible idea. Think of the applications we could come up with for high energy directed weapons. Swarms of automated space drones flying in 3-d Brownian motions. At least it's better than digging ditches.
That said, if we're going to pick a public goods project to get us out of the slump, I'd start with American infrastructure, and then Nigerian, Brazilian, Indian, etc. We might even be able to work out a diplomatic deal where an American company builds and manages the Lagos port to world standards of efficiency, and could make a serious difference to a hundred million people's lives while profiting.