Psst....
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ou are assuming their "high profile customers" will use it!
I have trouble enough using the Discourse features which aren't designated 'experimental'...
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e truly awful QA they have
I thought that QA was frowned upon because it made the discodevs feel sad.
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But look at the heart-eyed emote and the heart. They clearly love you over there!
Filed Under: And you can even SHARE the love!
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But look at the heart-eyed emote and the heart.
Great, professional image for their corporate customers.
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To be fair, the original pitch for that message
Hi, please make an account so we can ban you for a year when you report bugs! !INSERT_MEME_PICTURE_HERE!
was not that much better!
Filed Under: Was more honest, though!
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By the way, I can't really fix this (which is why I haven't). The localStorage is cleared when you log out, to prevent shared computer info leaks, so I can't store an "I'm banned" marker... You just have to press the no thanks
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@boomzilla said:
e truly awful QA they have
I thought that QA was frowned upon because it made the discodevs feel
sadanxious and panicky.<empty
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It's a lot of stress when people keep finding the problems with your product.
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It's a lot of stress when people keep finding the problems with your product.
It's even more stressful when those people expect you to fix those problems. It's like they want quality from you, or something. What entitled assholes!
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Okay, I'm ranting a lot on Discourse since that last update, but this misfeature I think takes the cake. Why isn't this a plugin? Why introduce this into core just because one customer has a weird workflow? Is this going to be Discourse's development standard - we don't give a shit about making a coherent, consistent product anymore, we're just putting our asses up to the highest bidder no matter how retarded their requests are?
Because that's retarded. Flags are the tool that serve this purpose for users, group PMs are the tool for moderator groups, and it. Just. Doesn't. Belong. In. A. Topic. How on earth does a secret second communication channel under the primary one make any sense to anyone who doesn't have their brain completely rotten?
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Because that's retarded. Flags are the tool that serve this purpose for users, group PMs are the tool for moderator groups, and it. Just. Doesn't. Belong. In. A. Topic. How on earth does a secret second communication channel under the primary one make any sense to anyone who doesn't have their brain completely rotten?
Didn't we already cover this? Something about how it makes sense if your forum is really a bug
trackerrepository so that you can discuss supr sekret information right in the ticket.In other words, their dogfooding is leading to the introduction of features that only make sense in the context of the way that they dogfood. We told them that dogfooding a forum as a bug tracker was stupid, for many reasons. Now this happens.
Other than that, it is exactly as you said.
Filed Under: Be smart when selecting your dogfood.
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bug repository
With the goal of cataloguing and reproducing every single bug in existence?
And, uh, maybe? I dunno? I mean, I thought Discourse had the "reply as linked topic" thing exactly to separate that sort of thing? So you'll have bug discussion in one thread, and either consider dev talk off-topic or secret and separate it into a staff category thread, or just cooperate with your users and discuss it right there?
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Well, since you can't track more than 500 separate bugs at once they had to get a bit creative...
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With the goal of cataloguing and reproducing every single bug in existence?
It's the proverbial self licking ice cream cone.
Groucho had a line (Night at the Opera?) about someone inventing spaghetti noodles with bicarbonate of soda inside, thus causing and curing indigestion all at once.
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Oh ffs
the GET call for "x" replies (https://what.thedailywtf.com/posts/538256/replies?_=1443218156754) is entirely not secured.The whispers are available without any authentication, just requiring a post number x_xErr, wait nvm. That's the replies call, not asking for a specific post
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No worries, I tested the later too, trying to quote a whisper post from a regular account and it gets a 403 auth error.
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@Maciejasjmj said:
anymore
Anymore? Anymore? LOL...
we don't give a shit about making a coherent, consistent product anymore
I think maybe they gave a shit (at least a little) at one point; they were just too incompetent to achieve it. Now they don't give it; they just give it away (to people like Alex) or sell it (to suckers).
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No worries, I tested the later too, trying to quote a whisper post from a regular account and it gets a 403 auth error.
Did you try oneboxing a whisper post?
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Let's see:
https://what.thedailywtf.com/t/psst/51415/8?u=abarker
Edit: It one boxed the post about 5 posts earlier than the target.
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Allow me to see if Oneboxing will answer your question:
If not: Here you go.
edit**emphasized text: it didn't onebox all the quotes in the post. Of course not.
Filed under: How's the new forums coming?
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trying to quote a whisper post from a regular account and it gets a 403 auth error.
I managed to do it:
- Find a post with a whispered reply
- Expand the replies widget. hey presto, you can see the whisper. But that's a separate bug
- Highlight the test in the reply and hit "quote reply"
It inserts the text, but it attributes it to the post it was a reply to.
ETA: Nevermind. this happens with real replies too: https://what.thedailywtf.com/t/testing-regression/51469
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I managed to do it:
- Find a post with a whispered reply
- Expand the replies widget. hey presto, you can see the whisper. But that's a separate bug
- Highlight the test in the reply and hit "quote reply"
I should say, I tried altering the post number referenced by the quote and removing full quote, so it gives you the expand option, pressing expand presented a 403 auth error.
Since they have fixed the expanded replies button, I tried to not use that leak in my later tests.
As for oneboxing, I did attempt that, got similar results as everyone else here.
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Has there been testing of Jeffing whispers?
Like if you Jeff a whisper on its own, or Jeff a batch containing a whisper, or Jeff the post a whisper is in reply to?
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Has there been testing
<nopeof Jeffing whispers?
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The article comment preview (this thing) is custom code, isn't it?
Do whispers within the first couple of posts get exposed by it?
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The article comment preview (this thing) is custom code, isn't it?
Do whispers within the first couple of posts get exposed by it?See, I'm torn here if this is a WHAT THE FUCK DISCOURSE or not?
Let's check the balance scales between @apapadimoulis and @wood
- Custom code to pull info out of another application.
- Custom code having to be written, because comment system doesn't have a "preview top X" API
- Using a forum a comment system
- Saying your forum should be a comment system
- Adding an undocumented, untested feature to a production system
- Adding an undocumented, untested feature to a production system that promises privacy, but whose failsafe mode is "expose private information"
- Adding ... knowing that there are third party solutions using your dataset, whose default behavior will now be "expose private information"
- Not putting out an advisory to customers several versions in advance, alerting them of the upcoming change, and how to mitigate it via code. (IE: Version 1.7 will have Whispers. As of 1.4, we've added the "is_whisper" flag to the Replies table. Start to make your code safe now by checking for is_whisper = 0. You have been warned).
- Thinking up, coding and rolling out a feature with privacy implications in one version, with no QA
- Installing discourse:
So we're tied. It's both Jeff's fault for creating Discourse, and Alex's fault for using it.
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@Lorne_Kates said:
Adding an undocumented, untested feature to a production system that promises privacy, but whose failsafe mode is "expose private information"
And we all saw it coming...
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@Lorne_Kates said:
- Adding an undocumented, untested feature to a production system that promises privacy, but whose fail
safedangerous mode is "expose private information":youKeepUsingThisWordMeme.flv:
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@Lorne_Kates said:
Let's check the balance scales between @apapadimoulis and @wood
[snip]
So we're tied. It's both Jeff's fault for creating Discourse, and Alex's fault for using it.See, you obviously did the scoring wrong. I didn't win, therefore you did it wrong.
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@Lorne_Kates said:
So we're tied. It's both Jeff's fault for creating Discourse, and Alex's fault for using it.
Are you suggesting that using Dis&Curse is somehow similar to Bondage and Domination? I can totally see that.