🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD
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Oh! My 300km/h Autobahn ends up in a roundabout, there are traffic lights and complex intersections.
Pussies, the FWP thread is over there.
Incredible Indian Traffic - isn't it crazy?! – 03:26
— konzeptunddialogAlso, some cities in LATAM are fun at night, when stopping on a traffic light is a death sentence.
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Oh! My 300km/h Autobahn ends up in a roundabout,
@aliceif's problem wasn't that the motorway ends in a roundabout, its that Google Maps had mapped the roundabout as if it was part of the motorway -- which is nonsensical.
Filed under: hunting chopsticks signs
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its that Google Maps had mapped the roundabout as if it was part of the motorway -- which is nonsensical.
Meh, just a technicality; unless you have an F1 car, you're not going to be doing motorway speeds on a roundabout
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Also, some cities in LATAM are fun at night, when stopping on a traffic light is a death sentence.
I wouldn't say a death sentence. more like an opportunity to talk to a police officer about how you got to be naked in the street. (and only some parts of the cities)
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Meh, just a technicality; unless you have an F1 car, you're not going to be doing motorway speeds on a roundabout
It matters for the next construction worker who has to drive a backhoe over it... ;)
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Given a normal car and a big enough roundabout ...
Or, less internationally:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Millbrook+Proving+Ground+Ltd/@52.0494009,-0.5375626,14z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x4877b2df8c926173:0x439e7dc3bb781311Google Maps onebox refreshes in preview after each character typed
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@aliceif's problem wasn't that the motorway ends in a roundabout, its that Google Maps had mapped the roundabout as if it was part of the motorway -- which is nonsensical.
Here's a few roundabouts that are part of a motorway. With none of them can you approach from any direction that isn't a motorway.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.4980708,-0.7249517,15z
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.5863687,-2.1597964,15z
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.7286928,-1.5134162,15z
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.4787083,-1.1500091,15z
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.158651,-0.1362935,15z
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.9451804,-1.4777627,15z
This last one is not strictly right; they closed part of the roundabout…
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5119773,-2.5188154,15z
My god, the UK has some stupid motorway junctions even though we've got stupidly restrictive design rules for them…
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This one in the Netherlands, despite 3 of 4 connections being motorways, and google showing it as motorway, actually isn't a motorway. (switch to street view and look at the signage).
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My god, the UK has some stupid motorway junctions even though we've got stupidly restrictive design rules for them…
It's like your motorway designers go "stack interchange? wutzat newfangled thing?" and just throw roundabouts at everything in sight...
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Not at everything...
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Spaghetti+Junction,+51+Tyburn+Rd,+Birmingham,+West+Midlands+B24+8NP/@52.5116115,-1.8650637,15z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x4870bb37de08e80f:0x52025bcbb3b71b16Oh no that has a roundabout too
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It's like your motorway designers go "stack interchange? wutzat newfangled thing?" and just throw roundabouts at everything in sight...
There's quite a few of those about too — that definitely wasn't a random selection — but roundabouts are much cheaper to build, and if traffic levels aren't too high, work fine.
The problem comes when the traffic projections are wrong. The interchange between the M1 and M62 (J42/J29; the third one in my previous post) is a classic case of this, where traffic was so high round the junction that they built a partial stacked interchange around it (well, under it) to reduce the load. It's still thoroughly inadequate — I dread approaching it from the south, and I've never seen the couple of miles there at anything other than jammed — but it's nowhere near as bad as it used to be.
The stretch between it and the next junction north is the widest motorway I know of in the UK. It's almost the same width as the stretch in the West Midlands where the M6 and M42 run parallel…
(And J28 on the M62 — since we've already mentioned the junctions on either side of it — is another “special” one, this time for weird roads that cross parts of roundabouts, almost forming a roundabout inside a roundabout. Leeds has some absolutely crazy road design, no light rail system either, and an airport that's on the side of a hill with terrible road connections and no rail connection at all…)
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Try this group of junctions…
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.5267177,-2.3755953,13z
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The whole Greater Manchester motorway system is a total clusterfuck
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The whole Greater Manchester motorway system is a total clusterfuck
The Mancunian Way (A57(M) in the centre of Manchester) seems to be pretty bad. Or at least it's about a 50% chance when I walk past whether the traffic is moving or apparently parked for the day.
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There's also both ends of the M67, the Sharston Link section of the M56 (tailbacks sometimes as far as the A556!), the Eccles Interchange, Simister Island... the list goes on.
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Don't like roundabouts? Why not squareabouts?
https://www.google.es/maps/@38.0535911,-0.6825094,524m/data=!3m1!1e3
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the M67
The M67 is pretty pointless seeing as they built like 5 miles and abandoned building the rest of it.
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The M67 is pretty pointless seeing as they built like 5 miles and abandoned building the rest of it.
They even managed to fuck up the western terminus junction, which should never have forced traffic coming off it heading towards Manchester to go through that roundabout. The eastern terminus is bad too, but they've been talking pretty actively about extending the motorway further east for a long time now, so I think of it as a known “temporary” solution. (The only problem is that they keep hitting NIMBYism with a bunch of BANANAs too, simply because it's getting very close to the Peak District National Park. A shame; the A628 through there is awful, in common with almost all southern transpennine road routes other than the M62.)
But it's not a route I go on much anyway; only go that way when visiting friends…
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The only problem is that they keep hitting NIMBYism with a bunch of BANANAs too, simply because it's getting very close to the Peak District National Park.
Seems that way. I'm sure they could tunnel through part of it though, like the now re-purposed Woodhead Tunnel (that was suggested as part of the original M67 route) does.
the A628 through there is awful
On the rare occasion you can catch a clear run over it, it's a driving road for just putting your foot down and flying along it.
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the M67
one wonders.... is there an M(67+2)? and if so how often does its signs get stolen?
Filed under: i have a very strange mind.... it's not a safe place to be.
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that's one question answered. now how often to people steal the signs?
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No idea. Probably not that often though.
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Probably not that often though.
huh... either that number has different significance over there or you don't have the same..... hooligan population
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either that number has different significance over there
Oh, we know about the soixante-neuf ;)
@accalia said:you don't have the same..... hooligan population
We do, but they do other things instead of stealing signs
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Given the ubiquituousness of CCTVs, and the generally bad idea of stopping on a major road, I guess it is simply too easy for the bizzies to *69 you...
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Bad idea: trying to search for "deadline monotonic scheduling" using Android's speech recognition.
What it recognized (nothing edited):
- Businessman excatly
- Disney
- The name of the
- Is name of the next story
- Manuel Celis
- Feliz en inglés
- The Climb monotonic
- Design my Thanksgiving
- The name of any scheduling
And then it crashed.
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You seem to be TRWTF, because on first try:
And I'm not even native English
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Fine, I'll admit it, my English pronaunsiashon skills are terrible. Still, I can get it to understand most things in 2 or 3 tries.
Also it did crash. That's not really rare on a Nexus 10 sadly.
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We do, but they do other things instead of stealing signs
Those signs are mostly rather large and difficult to get at without a ladder and tools. By the time people have gone to all the effort of getting all the equipment together and driven out to a quiet stretch, they've probably sobered up a bit. ;)
The terminal junction at the Leicester end of the M69 is another awful roundabout, but not a access-by-motorway-only one.
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Those signs are mostly rather large and difficult to get at without a ladder and tools. By the time people have gone to all the effort of getting all the equipment together and driven out to a quiet stretch, they've probably sobered up a bit.
This from a country where someone put a piano on top of a mountain.
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No idea. Probably not that often though.
Maybe that's not cool enough. In my teen years I lived on Easy Street, and the sign got stolen...well, I don't know how regularly, but far more of then than normal, by which I mean approximately at least once a year or so.
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Also it did crash.
One thing that I'm excited for in Source 2 is Hammer not crashing every 5 minutes.
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There's also a:
(I'm guessing that the lack of thefts of signage are mostly due to the fact that while we're aware of the connotations, they're just not things that spring to mind all that often.)
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Traffic cones are an easier target. Every student had a traffic cone in their flat/corridor in Halls at some point. Ours went missing. We think it was confiscated by the cleaners, but it could have been nicked by another corridor.
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Bad idea: Forming a band called "deadline monotonic scheduling" and writing a concept album with the following tracklist...
Businessman excatly
Disney
The name of the
Is name of the next story
Manuel Celis
Feliz en inglés
The Climb monotonic
Design my Thanksgiving
The name of any scheduling
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With the audio abruptly cutting out at the end of the last track?
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With a name like that, I'd be surprised if he ever reaches the last track.
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One thing that I'm excited for in Source 2 is Hammer not crashing every 5 minutes.
Ben, you should totally write something that will produce a Half-Life 2 map of your DF world.
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Ben, you should totally write something in Go that will produce a Lojban Half-Life 2 map of your DF world.
STFY
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We had a streetlight. No idea how it got there.
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Anything that starts with "Cooking" and ends with "(highly toxic)" is a bad idea
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Anything that starts with "Cooking" and ends with "(highly toxic)" is a bad idea
Dwarven sulphur roast?
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Anything that starts with "Cooking" and ends with "(highly toxic)" is a bad idea
Anything that starts with "Cooking" and includes mercury... I'm not going near that without breathing apparatus.
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What if someone stores their recipes in hg?
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hg may be okay, I use git for reasons, but Hg is bad.
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@CarrieVS said:
Every student had a traffic cone in their flat/corridor in Halls at some point. Ours went missing.
We had a streetlight. No idea how it got there.
I once found one of these, still flashing, in my wardrobe.
Also, no idea how it got there.