Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition
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And you're leaving off two key words: in public.
Nothing wrong with getting drunk in the pub and taking a cab home. Long as you don't vomit all over the cab.
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And you're leaving off two key words: in public.
Nothing wrong with getting drunk in the pub and taking a cab home. Long as you don't vomit all over the cab.
Except that there is something wrong with that (legally speaking). A cab driver must refuse to take you if you are "apparently drunk". They usually don't, because that would be bad for business, but technically they are breaking the law if they take you when you are clearly drunk.1
If you vomit all over the cab, you can choose between either cleaning it up yourself or pay extra for the cleaning.
TTBOM a pub is considered a public place. If it weren't, the law couldn't make smoking inside illegal.
1 source: a recently retired uncle who has been a cab driver for the last 30+ years.
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Except that there is something wrong with that (legally speaking). A cab driver must refuse to take you if you are "apparently drunk". They usually don't, because that would be bad for business, but technically they are breaking the law if they take you when you are clearly drunk.
So:
- You're not allowed to be drunk in a public place
- Pubs are a public place
- Streets are a public place, so you can't walk home
- You're no allowed to drive while drunk
- Cab drivers are not allowed to take you home if you're drunk
In conclusion, you're not allowed to get drunk at the pub. You're even more screwed if you want to LEAVE the pub. Both alcohol and pubs are completely legal.
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a public place
It's a place with public character. It has an open door that I can walk into and the owner did this by design.
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So:
- You're not allowed to be drunk in a public place
- Pubs are a public place
- Streets are a public place, so you can't walk home
- You're no allowed to drive while drunk
- Cab drivers are not allowed to take you home if you're drunk
In conclusion, you're not allowed to get drunk at the pub. You're even more screwed if you want to LEAVE the pub. Both alcohol and pubs are completely legal.
That about sums it up. My best guess is those laws were made by men who really could hold their liquor...
I just thought of this: if being drunk in a public place is illegal and you got drunk in a bar, does that mean the bartender is an accomplice?
Anyway, those laws usually don't get enforced, unless you're making trouble. Then all these little things (drunk in public, ...) just get added to your fine, just because they can (and supposedly to "teach you a lesson").
Also, what @Luhmann said above. I don't know about the practical differences between proper public places and places with public character.
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That about sums it up. My best guess is those laws were made by men who really could hold their liquor
No, they're just more laws that aren't meant to be enforced all the time, but they give police something obvious to arrest people for if they're causing problems. Or if they feel like it.
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Or if they feel like it.
or if it's near the end of the month and they havent met their quota yet.
I know they'll deny having a quota for that sort of thing, but look at the data! last three days of the month tends to have more arrests than the rest of the month...
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I'm not sure if I posted this one yet: getting into an off-ramp at the last minute, then getting back out a second later.
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Nothing wrong with getting drunk in the pub and taking a cab home.
Except - in the UK - it's illegal to serve someone who's drunk (not that it gets enforced with any regularity.)
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Pubs are a public place
No - they're private premises (again - UK) but the government insists on treating them as if they were public (enforced smoking bans for which the licensee is responsible for enforcing under penalty of a fine, or jailed themselves, and the aforementioned 'serving drunks.')
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I would tell ya but giving up your location is not allowed here ...
belgiumYou see? It gets blocked out ...
Not everywhere ...
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In NL, they're both. For most, if not all, Dutch laws to which the concept is relevant, a generally accessible private property is equivalent to a public place.
Which means I'm probably indeed wrong on the 'getting drunk in the pub' thing above - it's probably still public drunkness.
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Except - in the UK - it's illegal to serve someone who's drunk (not that it gets enforced with any regularity.)
I believe that's common in the US, too, though it's probably through a state or local statute.
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I don't know about the practical differences between proper public places and places with public character.
A public places is generally accessible and open. And most likely (but not exclusively) owned by some official government body. For example I can't deny anybody access to the street.
A public character means that it is accessible and open by design but that it can be closed or entrance can be submitted to regulations (think open hours). It is always private owned (although the owner can be the government). But the property owner wants people to come in and buy stuff, have a drink, ... thus the place has a public character. As a owner or employee of the pub I can however kick anybody out if I feel like it.
Think of this:- I give a party in my house: private. I can have a stripper.
- I rent a pub to give a party, I put a sign up: closed for private party => private. I can dance naked on the bar.
- I give a party at a pub but the pub is open to public: I can have a stripper but I could get fined.
- I pull my cloths of in the street: public and thus I will most likely be arrested.
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- I pull my cloths of in the street: public and thus I will most likely be arrested.
I was hoping you'd rent a stripper for some people waiting at a bus station instead of getting naked yourself...
Still: 7/10 would read again ;)
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loosing
*losing
Those are, in fact, two different words. Unless you want your license to run away, you don't generally loose it. :)
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A cab driver must refuse to take you if you are "apparently drunk"
Well, that's singularly idiotic. How are you supposed to get home? Drive yourself? That seems like it might be shooting fish in a barrel.
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Well, that's singularly idiotic. How are you supposed to get home? Drive yourself? That seems like it might be shooting fish in a barrel.
You should have stopped consuming alcohol before becoming intoxicated, of course!
As stated above: those laws are almost never enforced on their own. They appear to be used to embiggen the fine you get when you are annoying in other ways.
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Drinking laws in the US (so-called "blue laws") are almost always county or city-level legislation. So there are billions of them, and where ever you are there's a different set of laws than there is 20 miles away.
That said, "don't serve alcohol to some guy drinking himself into a coma" is generally universally on the books.
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That said, "don't serve alcohol to some guy drinking himself into a coma" is generally universally on the books.
Assisted attempted suicide, if nothing else?
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Saw this one last night. In a 35 mph zone, two lanes going west. I'm in the left lane, as it is a left-turn only lane onto the 5, which I want. The car about 10 car lengths ahead of me is doing about 33 mph, trying to get out of the lane. The car to the right of him is going 35 mph, and has no traffic immediately behind him. So the car in front of me just. Can't. Slow. Down. Enough. Because going 30 mph, and actually using brakes would not get you to your destination as quickly, even though you're going to end up behind the same car.
Idiot.
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A major 4-way junction by my work is now closed at nights for re-work (they seem to be making it worse). Tonight I watched a car pull up to the giant flashing 'Road Closed' barricade and just stop, I did a u-turn behind him and then watched about 5 cars do the same in my rear view mirror. About a mile down the road I could still see him there.
(I was attempting to use the petrol station by the closure as a short-cut but, sadly, it was past the barricade so 5 mile diversion)
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I watched a car pull up to the giant flashing 'Road Closed' barricade and just stop
Was he waiting for the sign to go out?
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I hope he just decided to take a phone call or something, with the drivers here it's about 50/50 though
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Saw a woman nearly stall since she was holding her phone (illegal to be on the phone while driving here) with her right hand and trying to shift with her left hand.
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holding her phone ... with her right hand and trying to shift with her left hand
When I was young and stupid and commuting from work to nighttime college classes by way of a convenient fast-food drive-through, I would occasionally have a burger in my left hand, shift with my right hand, and steer with my knee until my right hand was available.
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That's fairly common, and not as bass-ackwards as doing what this lady did in a LHD vehicle.
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if being drunk in a public place is illegal and you got drunk in a bar, does that mean the bartender is an accomplice?
Why, yes it does.
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I would occasionally have a burger in my left hand, shift with my right hand, and steer with my knee until my right hand was available.
Me too, but I'm not American so I did it with opposite hands and a manual transmission. Float shifts FTW!
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Saw a woman nearly stall since she was holding her phone (illegal to be on the phone while driving here) with her right hand and trying to shift with her left hand.
Which side of the car was the driver's side in this scenario?
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I'm going to guess left - it's funnier than if it was right.
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Saw a woman nearly stall since she was holding her phone (illegal to be on the phone while driving here) with her right hand and trying to shift with her left hand.
I used to do that, but it was food instead of a phone. Fifth gear was a little hard to reach with my left hand but everything else worked out.
Wouldn't have been too bad except that this particular pickup truck had a gas V6 tuned to lawnmower horsepower. Highway travel required constant shifting between 3rd, 4th, and 5th depending on hill steepness.
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I'm going to guess left - it's funnier than if it was right.
Plus @chubertdev is an american, so it is much more likely to be left (and if it was right it wouldn't have been worth a mention).
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I also addressed it here:
That's fairly common, and not as bass-ackwards as doing what this lady did in a LHD vehicle.
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And somehow "LHD" didn't get @blakeyranted.
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Some people are able to make reasonable, context-based inferences about the meaning of such abbreviations (and humorous guesses when the meaning is unclear).
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I've spent enough time in car tuning communities where abbreviations such as RWD, LHD, CAI, SRI, HU, etc...are common.
I'm not a hybrid-driving hippie.
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Probably because I did "dismiss posts" on this thread and never read it.
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But my misspelled submention of you drew you here?
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maybe3 he runs some sort of script like Kibo to find out where he needs to be summoned without an explicit invocation!
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RWD, LHD, CAI, SRI, HU
First two are obvious (at least to me). Found "cold air intake" for third. So far, google-fu is failing for SRI, so I'm going to offer "System of Rice Intensification" as a guess. (Do you drive a rice box?) Likewise for HU, so I will suggest "Hollywood Undead." How'd I do?
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Thinking back to my commute commute this morning, I actually have something relating to the OT.
I saw this car that was regularly changing lanes, usually to get in the lane that was moving faster at the time. The moron wasn't using his signals, and was frequently cutting off other vehicles. At one point he even came close to getting flattened by a semi. Obviously a driving anti-pattern. But what makes it memorable is that all his lane changing was having the opposite of the desired effect. I first noticed this guy pulling these stunts ahead of me. About five minutes after I first noticed him, he was several car lengths behind me, still fighting to gain ground.
Filed Under: Karma's a bitch
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SRI
Solid Rocket Injected.
it's when you use an SRB for go power rather than an engine. does terrible things to your turn radius, nnd you have to be really careful about hills but you've never gotten from point A to point B that fast! (visiting point P(rison) or point M(ortuary) afterwards is usually mandatory)
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or he's a transformer!
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Yeah well I hit "dismiss posts" at like 7 AM today and then I was going back through the list. All that means is you wrote that bullshit crap between 7 AM and about 11:15 AM this morning. And also are stupid and ugly.
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it's when you use an SRB for go power rather than an engine. does terrible things...
But on the bright side, you stand an excellent chance of being immortalized on the Darwin Award web site (unless they disqualify people who become eligible using the same method as a previous winner).
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Not too bad. Short Ram Intake, and Head Unit.
I also drive a BMW.