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@morbiuswilters said:
Seriously, what kind of douchebag would wear cowboy boots on a day-to-day basis? Especially when you consider that if you put the people in that photo on horses, half would have to be put down for having their spines snap or their leg bones shatter.
I wear boots most days. They look nice, don't need lacing and work with both jeans and slacks. Best of all, they are one of the few acceptable places for a short guy to add a bit of height in his heels.
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@Snooder said:
Meanwhile, if I, for example, spend a week building a castle in Minecraft with my hypothetical kids...
And as long as you're playing Minecraft, hypothetical is all they're going to be.
@Snooder said:
...you can be damn sure they'll cherish those moments for the rest of their lives.
"Dad, can we go do our math homework now?" "No! You've got to help me finish mine first!"
@Snooder said:
Just like I remember the sand castles I built as a kid even after the tide washed them away.
Once again: actual activity, actual memory, actual children. Note how with Minecraft you have none of these.
@Snooder said:
No, what I'm criticizing him for is his sneering contempt at the very idea that someone might actually approach a hobby with dedication or focus.
Jerking off until your dick bleeds is more of a hobby than Minecraft. Watching TV is more of a hobby than Minecraft. Smoking meth is more of a hobby..
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@morbiuswilters said:
I like how they're all wearing cowboy boots. Like "Hey, people might forget this is Texas if everyone doesn't look like some pussy Hollywood fantasy of what Texas is like!"
Try to find a single episode of How I Met Your Mother where the girls characters don't wear boots (even when they are inside their apartment). If that's how New Yorkers dress, I guess it leaves people with two choices: an exhausting 10 floor walk-up (since elevators are a rare luxury in that shit city) or having upstairs neighbors walk loudly with their boots all day. No wonder they all end up being a bunch of assholes.
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@Snooder said:
I wear boots most days. They look nice, don't need lacing and work with both jeans and slacks.
You are one tacky sumbitch. Which part of New Jersey did you come from?
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@morbiuswilters said:
@derari said:
Sometimes, people just do what they enjoy, no matter how useful for the world.
Okay, but what you enjoy is objectively stupid, shallow and pathetic. At least composing 10k forum posts requires creative writing skills. What does sitting in a darkened room, mashing buttons while your arteries slowly harden require?It depends on what they are building, but it is possible to exercise creativity in building a structure in Minecraft (think of it as practicing an artform, instead of a sculpture to put on a shelf it's digital but that doesn't mean it is just mindless activity).
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@Ronald said:
If that's how New Yorkers dress
It is. But it's hot.
@Ronald said:
an exhausting 10 floor walk-up (since elevators are a rare luxury in that shit city)
Yes.
@Ronald said:
or having upstairs neighbors walk loudly with their boots all day.
Also yes.
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@morbiuswilters said:
@Snooder said:
I wear boots most days. They look nice, don't need lacing and work with both jeans and slacks.
You are one tacky sumbitch. Which part of New Jersey did you come from?
What foot wear are YOU wearing right now?
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@locallunatic said:
but it is possible to exercise creativity in building a structure in Minecraft
Sure, but what we've seen in this thread is just building what someone else already built to collect iron golems.
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@Snooder said:
@morbiuswilters said:
@Snooder said:
I wear boots most days. They look nice, don't need lacing and work with both jeans and slacks.
You are one tacky sumbitch. Which part of New Jersey did you come from?
What foot wear are YOU wearing right now?Hoboken, huh? Well, I can't blame you for leaving that shithole.
(And I'm not wearing any footwear.)
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@locallunatic said:
@derari said:
Tending a garden is also always the same.
Um, have you ever seen a plant? Though I suppose you could be using a value for "same" so that climbing a flight of stairs is the "same" as climbing a mountain.
@derari said:
The value of a tended garden is just the same as of a completed sudoku.
So you complete a bunch of them over time and then eat the collection?
A garden gives me nothing I couldn't easily buy. The value is completely imaginary.
@morbiuswilters said:
@derari said:
Calculating Pi requires repetetive calculations, not actual thinking.
And sudoku doesn't??
Unless you're trying to brute-force it, it requires skills of pattern detection. Which it then traines. Which you can reuse in other situations.
@derari said:
Tending a garden is also always the same.
No, tending a garden doesn't require thinking at all. It's pleasant and relaxing.
I never said tending a garden requires thinking. In fact, it only is relaxing and requires no thinking because it is always the same.
@morbiuswilters said:
What
does sitting in a darkened room, mashing buttons while your arteries
slowly harden require?Depending on the rules you impose on your button-mashing, it requires reflexes and/or all kinds of problem solving skills.
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@morbiuswilters said:
Hoboken, huh? Well, I can't blame you for leaving that shithole.
(And I'm not wearing any footwear.)
Oh right, I forgot you work from home. Well, out in the REAL world, where people don't spend every waking moment in their homes like reclusive shut-ins, people have to put on shoes. If only to keep gravel and shards of glass from cutting their soles.
And Honestly? Never been to New Jersey. Closest I've been was when I went to New York once. Didn't like it much.
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@locallunatic said:
It depends on what they are building, but it is possible to exercise creativity in building a structure in Minecraft
Well derp, but that's not what this thread is about.
This thread is about spending 12 hours to get 60% finished with *duplicating something someone else built*.
Nobody's going to argue that you can't be creative in Minecraft; that's ridiculous. I'm just saying that spending hours and hours reproducing something someone else did seems more "waste of time" than "video game" as far as I'm concerned.
And the "quest for iron" is ridiculous because in creative mode you have all you need, and in survival mode it's a *game mechanic* that you don't have all you need. So I don't get the point in any case.
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@morbiuswilters said:
@locallunatic said:but it is possible to exercise creativity in building a structure in Minecraft
Sure, but what we've seen in this thread is just building what someone else already built to collect iron golems.OK true, I was just trying to point out that you can play a game like Mindcraft and still get something out of it besides just entertainment. Though I guess you could use the mindless activity as a form of meditation (like those who do super repetative physical things), and get a benefit from spending tons and tons of hours into something like this though that is really unlikely to be what they were doing.
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@derari said:
A garden gives me nothing I couldn't easily buy. The value is completely imaginary.
You've never in your fucking life eaten a home-grown tomato, have you?
Most fruits and veggies-- yeah, I admit it's impossible or nearly-so to home-grow something better than you can buy at the local Safeway. But tomatos, man. Tomatos.
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@derari said:
A garden gives me nothing I couldn't easily buy.
Well, except it's basically free (assuming your time is worthless--and since you play vidja games, we know it is.)
@derari said:
The value is completely imaginary.
The value is doing something real with your life instead of running around an imaginary world like some kind of weenie.
@derari said:
Unless you're trying to brute-force it, it requires skills of pattern detection.
I think your definition of "thinking" is much, much, much lower than mine. Sudoku isn't thinking, it's the mental equivalent of fiddling with your junk while you sit in a waiting room.
@derari said:
...because it is always the same.
Sometimes you get snails, though. Or aphids.
@derari said:
...it requires reflexes and/or all kinds of problem solving skills.
So fast button-mashing and being able to solve puzzles a 7 year old could figure out. Yay.
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@morbiuswilters said:
Do I care? Oh, I'm supposed to call you all by whichever tribe dragged itself away from incestuous sex in a pile of pig filth long enough to conquer a small bit of land? Do you call Americans by which state they're from?
No I don't expect you do, I don't know whether it is trolling or not, but as I said to boomzilla we see so much retarded shit from your side of the pond that I honestly don't know. However I do see comments like this and imagine the Team America music playing full blast on the other end.
As for calling Americans by what state their from, I suppose it works with some like most people would have a good idea what a streotypical Texan might sound like. In anycase, there are a lot smaller nations than the 3 on the Island I was born on.
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@Snooder said:
Oh right, I forgot you work from home.
Stalker alert!
@Snooder said:
If only to keep gravel and shards of glass from cutting their soles.
Do you work in a liquor store parking lot or something?
@Snooder said:
And Honestly? Never been to New Jersey. Closest I've been was when I went to New York once. Didn't like it much.
Oh, you just have that douchey quality of someone who moved to the South later in life and was like "I A COWBOY!" and dressed up in cowboy boots and jeans, even though you're just a paunchy computer programmer who lives in the suburbs and drives an SUV.
So I guess you're just one of those douche-y people who is from the South, but for some reason is desperately clinging to a heritage which is fabricated Hollywood bullshit. Basically with the fashion sense and independent thinking of an emo kid, just much, much fatter.
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@lucas said:
However I do see comments like this and imagine the Team America music playing full blast on the other end.
Well, I'm blasting that music about 17 hours a day, so you'd be right.
@lucas said:
As for calling Americans by what state their from, I suppose it works with some like most people would have a good idea what a streotypical Texan might sound like.
Yeah, but tell me what a stereotypical Oregonian sounds like.
@lucas said:
In anycase, there are a lot smaller nations than the 3 on the Island I was born on.
Yeah, but they're less schizo. You guys are, at various times, English/Scottish/North Irish/Welch; British; or UKian. And you can call yourselves or each other whatever you want, but I only recognize the sovereignty of the United Kingdom.
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@morbiuswilters said:
Yeah, but tell me what a stereotypical Oregonian sounds like.
@morbiuswilters said:
Yeah, but they're less schizo. You guys are, at various times, English/Scottish/North Irish/Welsh; British
; or UKian. And you can call yourselves or each other whatever you want, but I only recognize the sovereignty of the United Kingdom.FTFY,
Well nobody from Scotland would call themselves English but they may call theirselves British (but I doubt it). Though I do agree in some cases it can be bit odd, I work in Gibraltar and while and the Gibraltarians consider themselves British. It is a consequence of how things have been split out after the Empire fell apart.
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@blakeyrat said:
Nobody's going to argue that you can't be creative in Minecraft; that's ridiculous. I'm just saying that spending hours and hours reproducing something someone else did seems more "waste of time" than "video game" as far as I'm concerned.
And the "quest for iron" is ridiculous because in creative mode you have all you need, and in survival mode it's a *game mechanic* that you don't have all you need. So I don't get the point in any case.
I'll try to explain it without as much snark this time.
See, the difference between simply looking up a design and actually building it, is that building it is itself a challenge. You run into small obstacles along the way that need to be solved, you learn new things about the mechanics and systems, at the very least you have to learn the discipline to sit there and actually do the work. There is value in doing something even if it's not innovative or if someone has done it before because in doing that thing, you get better at doing similar things and you eventually, hopefully, get to a point where you can take what you learned and use it to create something new.
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@lucas said:
Welsh
I always thought it was "Welch" because that's the sound they make when a coal mine collapses on them. (Yeah, I knew it was Welsh, but I'm sorta drowsy today.)
@lucas said:
Gibraltar
Thanks for the link to Gibraltar. I never would have known about it otherwise.
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@Snooder said:
See, the difference between simply looking up a design and actually building it, is that building it is itself a challenge. You run into small obstacles along the way that need to be solved, you learn new things about the mechanics and systems, at the very least you have to learn the discipline to sit there and actually do the work. There is value in doing something even if it's not innovative or if someone has done it before because in doing that thing, you get better at doing similar things and you eventually, hopefully, get to a point where you can take what you learned and use it to create something new.
All of which is true, it's just sad the skills you are learning are completely stupid and pointless.
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@lucas said:
Thanks for the link to Gibraltar. I never would have known about it otherwise.
I had no idea it existed until a week before I moved there.
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@morbiuswilters said:
@Snooder said:
Oh right, I forgot you work from home.
Stalker alert!
@Snooder said:
If only to keep gravel and shards of glass from cutting their soles.
Do you work in a liquor store parking lot or something?
Unpaved roads are fairly common in small towns.
@morbiuswilters said:
@Snooder said:
And Honestly? Never been to New Jersey. Closest I've been was when I went to New York once. Didn't like it much.
Oh, you just have that douchey quality of someone who moved to the South later in life and was like "I A COWBOY!" and dressed up in cowboy boots and jeans, even though you're just a paunchy computer programmer who lives in the suburbs and drives an SUV.
So I guess you're just one of those douche-y people who is from the South, but for some reason is desperately clinging to a heritage which is fabricated Hollywood bullshit. Basically with the fashion sense and independent thinking of an emo kid, just much, much fatter.
Ah, I see the problem. You automatically equate "cowboy boots" with the douchebag who wears a giant buckle and 10 gallon hat and bolo tie and finishes off with some hideous colored ostrich/gator nightmare. Yeah, I don't do that. But a decent pair of brown/black leather boots aren't a bad way to go most days and fits with the general aesthetic around here.
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@Snooder said:
See, the difference between simply looking up a design and actually building it, is that building it is itself a challenge.
To quote Retsupurae, "what's the challenge? You're hitting 'A'!"
@Snooder said:
You run into small obstacles along the way that need to be solved,
Those are things I avoid in real life. Why would I want simulated ones?
@Snooder said:
at the very least you have to learn the discipline to sit there and actually do the work.
I use my highly honed powers of slack to only "sit there and actually do the work" on tasks that are worthwhile.
@Snooder said:
There is value in doing something even if it's not innovative or if someone has done it before because in doing that thing, you get better at doing similar things and you eventually, hopefully, get to a point where you can take what you learned and use it to create something new.
But creating something new is the only part of this process which is even remotely fun.
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@derari said:
Tending a garden is also always the same. The value of a tended garden is just the same as of a completed sudoku.
My garden consists of almost all edible goods (providing about .3% of my caloric needs)
I derive a great sense of superiority to know that, if normal food supplies disappeared tomorrow, it would take several hours longer to starve to death than the hoi polloi.
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@blakeyrat said:
But creating something new is the only part of this process which is even remotely fun.
And until you do the non-fun parts, you won't be able to actually create anything new.
Look, if you don't care enough to do the less interesting bits, fine. Just don't sneer at people who put in that effort.
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@lucas said:
@lucas said:
Thanks for the link to Gibraltar. I never would have known about it otherwise.
I had no idea it existed until a week before I moved there.
And you live in the Great English Kingdom! I'm really not trying to be a dick, but don't you guys learn about the Crimean War in your history classes? (Or even just the Suez?)
Also, you moved to a place you'd only found out about a week before? Were you kidnapped or something? That seems very short time for deciding to move somewhere.
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@morbiuswilters said:
@lucas said:
Welsh
I always thought it was "Welch" because that's the sound they make when a coal mine collapses on them. (Yeah, I knew it was Welsh, but I'm sorta drowsy today.)
You were correct.
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@Snooder said:
Unpaved roads are fairly common in small towns.
I've seen plenty of unpaved roads, but not in anything I'd call a "town". Besides, I doubt you're walking them.
@Snooder said:
You automatically equate "cowboy boots" with the douchebag who wears a giant buckle and 10 gallon hat and bolo tie and finishes off with some hideous colored ostrich/gator nightmare. Yeah, I don't do that.
No, you wear button-up shirts with pink stripes.. Which, honestly, is a bigger crime.
@Snooder said:
But a decent pair of brown/black leather boots aren't a bad way to go most days and fits with the general aesthetic around here.
Then the general aesthetic is dumb. You're not riding horses, and even if you were there are actually far more modern, practical boots for riding. I don't know how many real cowboys even wear cowboy boots anymore, unless they're dressing up for a fancy night out and they want to wear the cowboy boots as a throwback fashion statement.
But you're doing neither. You're wearing them as a day-to-day thing, despite the fact that they're: 1) meant for someone who is doing something more outdoors-y than computer programming; and 2) have been surpassed as actual, practical footwear for farm work by more modern boots.
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@morbiuswilters said:
@Snooder said:
Unpaved roads are fairly common in small towns.
I've seen plenty of unpaved roads, but not in anything I'd call a "town".
Laramie, WY. Most roads are unpaved ON PURPOSE.
@Some engineers said:
The general public benefits from reduced cost of road maintenance of a paved road. But the cost of
the investment in constructing a paved road, and possible social costs of accidents (“crash costs”)
that may result from higher speed and traffic volume, complicate the financial analysis.
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@morbiuswilters said:
And you live in the Great English Kingdom! I'm really not trying to be a dick, but don't you guys learn about the Crimean War in your history classes? (Or even just the Suez?)
No my history education at school didn't really cover the Crimean War, more things like the Romans, William the conquerer and the Great Fire of London amongst other things. I haven't read deal about the Crimean War.
@morbiuswilters said:
Also, you moved to a place you'd only found out about a week before? Were you kidnapped or something? That seems very short time for deciding to move somewhere.
At the time, I was working in a dead end IT shop, recently single and I had lived in the same area for most of my life and thought "fuck it, if I don't like it I can always come back".
It has been a good move for career wise.
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@lucas said:
No my history education at school didn't really cover the Crimean War, more things like the Romans, William the conquerer and the Great Fire of London amongst other things. I haven't read deal about the Crimean War.
I don't think we touched on the Great Fire of London, but we did cover the rest. (Go USA public education!) Also, Gibraltar's just generally sort of known as a heavily-fortified outcropping, although fewer people would probably know it's under the heel of British dominance.
@lucas said:
At the time, I was working in a dead end IT shop, recently single and I had lived in the same area for most of my life and thought "fuck it, if I don't like it I can always come back".
It has been a good move for career wise.
That's pretty ballsy. I approve.
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@morbiuswilters said:
@Snooder said:
Unpaved roads are fairly common in small towns.
I've seen plenty of unpaved roads, but not in anything I'd call a "town". Besides, I doubt you're walking them.
I walk on an unpaved road (more of an alley really) every day just to throw out the trash. There are plenty of unpaved roads around these parts. And no, while I normally drive, there are times when I need to get out of the car, to actually walk into place I need to go.
@morbiuswilters said:
@Snooder said:
You automatically equate "cowboy boots" with the douchebag who wears a giant buckle and 10 gallon hat and bolo tie and finishes off with some hideous colored ostrich/gator nightmare. Yeah, I don't do that.
No, you wear button-up shirts with pink stripes.. Which, honestly, is a bigger crime.
Says the man in the grease stained "denim" shirt.Please tell me you meant a blue oxford cloth shirt, and not actual denim.
@morbiuswilters said:
@Snooder said:
But a decent pair of brown/black leather boots aren't a bad way to go most days and fits with the general aesthetic around here.
Then the general aesthetic is dumb. You're not riding horses, and even if you were there are actually far more modern, practical boots for riding. I don't know how many real cowboys even wear cowboy boots anymore, unless they're dressing up for a fancy night out and they want to wear the cowboy boots as a throwback fashion statement.
But you're doing neither. You're wearing them as a day-to-day thing, despite the fact that they're: 1) meant for someone who is doing something more outdoors-y than computer programming; and 2) have been surpassed as actual, practical footwear for farm work by more modern boots.
Look, I have several decent dress shoes. I can't really walk across a field in em. And yes, I do quite a bit of walking across fields. Or used to, I go out less often these days. So yeah, if I need to go somewhere while wearing pants and I'm not going to be indoors all day, I'll wear the boots.And I don't know where you buy your boots, or which ranchers you know, but everyone I knows still buys basically the same style boot. Ariat's are pretty popular and the below is a pretty good example of a basic Ariat work boot.
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@Snooder said:
And until you do the non-fun parts, you won't be able to actually create anything new.
OH NOES Cursed forever by Snooder.
@Snooder said:
Look, if you don't care enough to do the less interesting bits, fine. Just don't sneer at people who put in that effort.
I wasn't sneering at you, you were condescending to me. NO U
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@morbiuswilters said:
I don't think we touched on the Great Fire of London, but we did cover the rest. (Go USA public education!) Also, Gibraltar's just generally sort of known as a heavily-fortified outcropping, although fewer people would probably know it's under the heel of British dominance.
Well it certainly used to be a heavily fortified piece of land and still is to some extent. However these days it is more a middle finger to the Spanish and a good way for businesses to get tax breaks, hence why the large presence of gambling companies.
BTW, nobody quite does trolling like the Gibraltarians.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/9328225/Giant-image-of-the-Queen-projected-on-to-Rock-of-Gibraltar.html
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@Snooder said:
Says the man in the grease stained "denim" shirt.
I said denim-y. And, yes, I wouldn't be caught dead wearing a fucking pink-striped shirt. What is wrong with you? I just can't comprehend how a man could do something like that to himself..
@Snooder said:
Look, I have several decent dress shoes. I can't really walk across a field in em. And yes, I do quite a bit of walking across fields. Or used to, I go out less often these days. So yeah, if I need to go somewhere while wearing pants and I'm not going to be indoors all day, I'll wear the boots.
So you're a pink-shirt-wearing rancher-slash-programmer, although you never go outside any more. Got it.
@Snooder said:
And I don't know where you buy your boots
If you couldn't tell, I don't fucking wear cowboy boots. Because I'm not some crazy, fashion-obsessed hillbilly jag-off.
@Snooder said:
or which ranchers you know
More than you ever will.
@Snooder said:
but everyone I knows still buys basically the same style boot.
So the other pink-shirt-wearing, GQ-reading computer programmers also wear cowboy boots? Please tell me more about your exciting culture..
@Snooder said:
Ariat's are pretty popular and the below is a pretty good example of a basic Ariat work boot.
Ariat's a fine brand, but they make lots of work boots and riding boots that aren't made for some twat playing Cowboys and Fashion Editors.
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@lucas said:
Well it certainly used to be a heavily fortified piece of land and still is to some extent. However these days it is more a middle finger to the Spanish and a good way for businesses to get tax breaks, hence why the large presence of gambling companies.
BTW, nobody quite does trolling like the Gibraltarians.
Ha ha, fuck Spain.
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Finally found a decent picture of the shirt. http://www.ctshirts.com/Sale/Sky-textured-pink-_and-blue-stripe-slim-fit-dress-shirt?q=usddefault||FT197SPK|||||||||||||&ppp=442
@morbiuswilters said:
I said denim-y. And, yes, I wouldn't be caught dead wearing a fucking pink-striped shirt. What is wrong with you? I just can't comprehend how a man could do something like that to himself..
Because it looks good. There's is nothing about pink that makes it look worse on any guy and plenty that makes it look better. Especially when wearing navy pants. The only objection you have to it is that people might think you are gay. And honestly, in this day and age, nobody thinks wearing pink makes you gay.
@morbiuswilters said:
So you're a pink-shirt-wearing rancher-slash-programmer, although you never go outside any more. Got it.
No, I'm a pink-shirt-wearing former law school student. Not sure where you got either the rancher or the programmer part from. Although I do write code currently, so 50% ain't bad.
@morbiuswilters said:
More than you ever will.
I doubt that.
@morbiuswilters said:
So the other pink-shirt-wearing, GQ-reading computer programmers also wear cowboy boots? Please tell me more about your exciting culture..
It's Texas, everyone here wears cowboy boots
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@Snooder said:
Because it looks good.
No, it doesn't. Although, the pink on that shirt you linked is so minimal you'd have to get close to even realize there was pink on there. So it's got that going for it.
@Snooder said:
There's is nothing about pink that makes it look worse on any guy and plenty that makes it look better.
What the fuck are you talking about? Pink looks like shit on everybody (except the hot pink, super-short dress your mom wears on our dates), and it doubly looks like shit on men. The only reason that shirt isn't barf-tastic is because you have to zoom way in to see any hint of pink at all, which just proves my goddamn point.
@Snooder said:
The only objection you have to it is that people might think you are gay.
No, I actually wouldn't care if people think I'm gay. I just don't want them to think I'm a fucking pussy who is too fashion-inept to realize how shitty he looks and who is desperately trying to overcompensate for something.
@Snooder said:
And honestly, in this day and age, nobody thinks wearing pink makes you gay.
Is that what your husband told you?
@Snooder said:
No, I'm a pink-shirt-wearing former law school student.
Oh God. That explains the vapid douche-iness and the general retardedness you exude.
@Snooder said:
Not sure where you got either the rancher or the programmer part from. Although I do write code currently, so 50% ain't bad.
So you are a programmer, then. Thanks for clearing that one up, dumbshit.
@Snooder said:
I doubt that.
Guys in a leather who make you ride their "pony" while hitting you with a riding crop don't count, dude. You're a pathetic mass of sissified stupid. Get over it.
@Snooder said:
It's Texas, everyone here wears cowboy boots
Well, at least the guys who failed out of law school and who squeal like a stuck pig when the new.. I dunno.. Vanity Fair?.. comes in the mail.
I'm actually trying to imagine what the biggest douchebag in the world would look like. It's a tie between "fake tan, popped-collar guido scumbag riding a Harley*" and you.
(*Seriously, fuck people on motorcycles with a rusty fork. Motorcycles were actually a bit cool when only gangs of pill-popping, psychotic criminals rode them, but now they're fucking pathetic and annoying. It should be legal to sit in the weeds beside the highway and pick these cocksuckers off with a 12 gauge..)
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@Zecc said:
I play this a lot:
Hey! Someone else who plays this game! I don't even remember how I came across this game in the first place, but damn it's a good time-waster.
@Zecc said:
Same thing happened back when I played Minesweeper. But I got bored of that one faster; there was an element of pure dumb luck which I disliked.
mines.exe (from the same website you got Loopy from) is a minesweeper clone that generates guaranteed-to-be-solvable boards.
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I wonder if Minecraft would be better if they rewrote it in HTML5
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@blakeyrat said:
@derari said:
In fact, I do have a garden with tomatoes, strawberries and some herbs (the legal kind). Because having a garden is fun. Slaying virtual dragons is fun, too.A garden gives me nothing I couldn't easily buy. The value is completely imaginary.
You've never in your fucking life eaten a home-grown tomato, have you?
Most fruits and veggies-- yeah, I admit it's impossible or nearly-so to home-grow something better than you can buy at the local Safeway. But tomatos, man. Tomatos.
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@derari said:
The value is completely imaginary.
@Liquid Egg Product said:I derive a great sense of superiority to know that, if normal food supplies disappeared tomorrow, it would take several hours longer to starve to death than the hoi polloi.
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@morbiuswilters said:
That's all they're getting from my cold, dead hands.
They get your cold, dead hands.
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@Arnavion said:
mines.exe (from the same website you got Loopy from) is a minesweeper clone that generates guaranteed-to-be-solvable boards.
I know, but for some reason I don't play it much. I haven't been playing much of anything recently, actually. But when I was, my favorites from that pack were Loopy, Bridges and Galaxies, in that order. Neither of those is particularly challenging, but they are a way of unwinding your brain; a form of meditation, as someone mentioned.I have them on my phone, but considering how they are pratically impossible to play with precision on a tiny screen, they are mostly just occupying SD card space.
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@morbiuswilters said:
The aforementioned Mario 3 (and 1 & 2). The original Dr. Mario. Doom & Doom II. Half-Life. Team Fortress Classic. Total Annihilation. Master of Orion II.
Any adventure game put out by LucasArts until they were gutted and turned into another huge black dildo to fill one of George Lucas's seemingly-endless moneyholes.
Alpha Centauri!! That game was the shit.
So, yeah, if you couldn't tell I haven't been a gamer in over a decade.
No, I can dig it. I never played shooters outside of single-player mode - my FPS skills suck balls - but my likings were similar. The last game I ever bought and played was Thief 3, and that was only because I was a fan of the Thief series. There's not much they make that has a good story these days, which is always what grabbed me.
@morbiuswilters said:Other than that, I tend to prefer board games with friends. (And not that faggy Warhammer shit. Just games like Scrabble or The Game of Things or Apples to Apples, etc..)
Those are my wife's games, stuff like that. I'm an Axis & Allies, Civilization, Talisman type of board gamer. But nothing involving lead figurines, please Jesus.
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@morbiuswilters said:
Well, except it's basically free (assuming your time is worthless--and since you play vidja games, we know it is.)
If you live somewhere where land is free (as well as the transportation to get there from your home. And if you're going to tell me you could live there: then you need to account for the transportation to your workplace).The value is doing something real with your life instead of running around an imaginary world like some kind of weenie.
Why is creating something physical more doing-something than creating something virtual? In both cases, the end result is as good as worthless* to people other than you, and it is only the memory of the process that gives you the endorphines.- Assuming you are not a master-creator of something. No, you're not.
I think your definition of "thinking" is much, much, much lower than mine. Sudoku isn't thinking, it's the mental equivalent of fiddling with your junk while you sit in a waiting room.
I'd like to hear your definition of thinking now. I agree that Sudokus don't require a maximum of creativeness, but they're not trivial, either. Plus, they help against alzheimer's, that should count for something.
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@Snooder said:
And I don't know where you buy your boots, or which ranchers you know, but everyone I knows still buys basically the same style boot. Ariat's are pretty popular and the below is a pretty good example of a basic Ariat work boot.
Talk about cognitive dissonance. You say boot, and you mean that. That's not a boot to me. THIS is a boot:
