Java was too slow to support our feature set so we rewrote it in HTML



  • @dhromed said:

    @morbiuswilters said:

    That's all they're getting from my cold, dead hands.
     

    They get your cold, dead hands.

    No, those are actually being donated to the Smithsonian because damn I have nice cuticles.



  • Morbius, you seem particularly acid recently, even laying out your more graphic insults on newcomers. Are you in a particular good mood?

    As for wearing pink: I think it's fine as long as it's not too saturated a pink. Some people can handle pink much better than others, which is true of any color. I can appreciate a grown man wearing a salmon or even markedly pink vest. Ties can get away with a much more satured pink.

    Having said that, there is always a mental connection with baby or teenage girls, regardless of how good they look. I also think of hot pink or magenta clothes as clothes missing an alpha channel.

     

    Footwear and clothe color discussion on a software developer's forum: how's that for stereotypes?



  • @derari said:

    If you live somewhere where land is free

    I have the land anyway. Shit, even if you live in nightmarish suburbia, are you going to tell the realtor "No, we'll take the house, but not the lawn."

    @derari said:

    Why is creating something physical more doing-something than creating something virtual?

    Why is sex with a human being better than fucking a greased-up Hefty bag? If you don't know, I can't tell you.

    @derari said:

    I'd like to hear your definition of thinking now.

    Reading? Learning? Even fucking building a goddamn wood table involves more actual use of your brain than sitting and filling out a fucking spreadsheet.

    @derari said:

    Plus, they help against alzheimer's, that should count for something.

    No, that's worse, because it just means that the tasteless cockholes who play Sudoku are going to live longer than people whose lives matter.



  • @Castaigne said:

    Talk about cognitive dissonance. You say boot, and you mean that. That's not a boot to me. THIS is a boot: 

    Does the gay strip club provide those for you, or do you have to buy your own?



  • @Zecc said:

    Morbius, you seem particularly acid recently...

    Maybe I'm on the rag.

    @Zecc said:

    ...even laying out your more graphic insults on newcomers. Are you in a particular good mood?

    He's not that new; his account is from 2009. I'm in an okay mood, it's just the world which is letting me down lately. Like how a guy who wears pink shirts lets down every single woman he's ever shown his shriveled, useless wang to.

    @Zecc said:

    As for wearing pink: I think it's fine as long as it's not too saturated a pink. Some people can handle pink much better than others, which is true of any color. I can appreciate a grown man wearing a salmon or even markedly pink vest. Ties can get away with a much more satured pink.

    uncontrollable eye twitch Here are the people who can get away with pink:

    Grandmas: Light pink sweaters.

    Little Girls: Frilly pink tutus on their ballet outfits.

    Strippers: Hot pink skirts, bust-accenting tops, heels, panties.. well, anything. But strippers are basically in the business of being tacky--they're literally whores--so there's no point arguing with it.

    I don't give anyone else permission to wear pink. Salmon-colored polos? Why not just get "I'm A Dick" tattooed on your chest and run around shirtless and howling?



  • @lushr said:

    ... HTML5 has become a buzzword.

    I know, right? I still don't know what it means. What HTML5 actually is doesn't even seem that special. I've been playing with canvasses a lot, does that mean I know HTML5?

    In one classic case, I went for an interview where I chatted with the CEO/CTO about various web technologies for a while, then the CEO asks "And what connects all these technologies together?". Realising the question was vague and could have many answers, I threw out a few: "Wires? Physics? Matter?". The answer turned out to be HTML5.

    I probably wouldn't have remembered this if they actually ended up paying me what I was told I would be paid in the first place (it wasn't much less, but it still stung, and having everybody around me say "you should have pushed back for more money" totes made me feel all the better).



  • @Shoreline said:

    What HTML5 actually is doesn't even seem that special.

    But look at all the features it has:

    • Progress bars! Now the users of your web app can stare at a bar that doesn't move for 30 seconds, then jumps to 99%, then sits there for half an hour!
    • You don't have to quote attributes! Think of all the time saved by not typing quotes! Ignore that quotes are still completely optional, and that now every fucking project you ever work on will combine both! I mean, it's not like it's up to a standards committee to come up with a standard way of doing things!
    • Embedded audio and video! And since the "standards" part didn't extend to the actual formats involved, get ready to support 18 different fucking formats! (Haven't we had the ability to embed proprietary video and audio since, like, HTML 2?)
    • Inline regular expressions on form fields! Remember when markup, style and behavior were all supposed to be separate? NEITHER DOES THE W3C!


  • @Castaigne said:

    There's not much they make that has a good story these days, which is always what grabbed me.
     

    I recommend Bastion.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @Shoreline said:
    What HTML5 actually is doesn't even seem that special.

    But look at all the features it has:

    • Progress bars! Now the users of your web app can stare at a bar that doesn't move for 30 seconds, then jumps to 99%, then sits there for half an hour!
    • You don't have to quote attributes! Think of all the time saved by not typing quotes! Ignore that quotes are still completely optional, and that now every fucking project you ever work on will combine both! I mean, it's not like it's up to a standards committee to come up with a standard way of doing things!
    • Embedded audio and video! And since the "standards" part didn't extend to the actual formats involved, get ready to support 18 different fucking formats! (Haven't we had the ability to embed proprietary video and audio since, like, HTML 2?)
    • Inline regular expressions on form fields! Remember when markup, style and behavior were all supposed to be separate? NEITHER DOES THE W3C!

    Sold!



  • About the Minecraft stuff.

    It literally hurts my brain that people refuse to play the Creative mode which exists for the sole purpose of giving you infinite blocks to play with..... and then waste 20 hours of their life setting complex, game breaking (or at least stretching) systems to... create infinite blocks...

    The Minecraft guys gave you Creative mode so you wouldn't HAVE to spend 20 hours creating an iron generator! You have infinite iron! Go nuts!

    Creative mode is for (surprise!) being creative! Survival mode is for (shocker!) surviving!

    If you play Creative mode for a challenge, or Survival mode to be creative, you are really doing it wrong.


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    @KillaCoda said:

    If you play Creative mode for a challenge, or Survival mode to be creative, you are really doing it wrong.

    This sort of thinking amuses me. Isn't it more challenging to be creative while surviving? Haven't we already passed the point of worrying about wasting time by the fact that we're playing a game?



  • @boomzilla said:

    @KillaCoda said:
    If you play Creative mode for a challenge, or Survival mode to be creative, you are really doing it wrong.

    This sort of thinking amuses me. Isn't it more challenging to be creative while surviving? Haven't we already passed the point of worrying about wasting time by the fact that we're playing a game?


    How is Survival mode challenging when you break the game mechanics?

    Survival is meant to be "forage for what you can find, build what you can out of that". Each resource you find naturally is supposed to be a reward. When you spent 20 hours making an infinite resource generator, you've just broken Survival mode. So why the hell didn't you just pick Creative mode in the first place?

    Sure you can argue all time gaming is a waste. But spending 20 hours to get infinite resources when you could have just picked "infinite resource mode" from the main menu, that takes it to a new level.


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    @KillaCoda said:

    How is Survival mode challenging when you break the game mechanics?

    Survival is meant to be "forage for what you can find, build what you can out of that".

    No mechanics are being broken. It's using a feature of the mechanics. While surviving. Based on the description, it's not a cheat code. I doubt many people are doing this all the time, but who knows?

    @KillaCoda said:

    When you spent 20 hours making an infinite resource generator, you've just broken Survival mode. So why the hell didn't you just pick Creative mode in the first place?

    I can definitely see the draw in figuring out how to exploit loopholes. If you can't, then, whatever.

    @KillaCoda said:

    Sure you can argue all time gaming is a waste. But spending 20 hours to get infinite resources when you could have just picked "infinite resource mode" from the main menu, that takes it to a new level.

    Not new at all. There's a significant difference between playing by the rules and getting super advantages and just playing god (creative) mode. I get that you don't care about it, but that's probably just your lack of imagination or something.

    There really is no accounting for taste. Otherwise, how to explain Japan?



  • @boomzilla said:

    No mechanics are being broken. It's using a feature of the mechanics. While surviving. Based on the description, it's not a cheat code. I doubt many people are doing this all the time, but who knows?

    Tricking the game by creating 32x one square "villages" in order to exploit infinite iron is ABSOLUTELY breaking the game. Unless you want to argue "Every bug/exploit/loophole in game is valid!" which is just plain silly. As the original guy said:

    @FrostCat said:

    What this is, is a massive abuse of game mechanics to avoid having to mine for iron.

    Why waste 20 hours creating an obvious exploit to avoid mining iron when there's already a menu option allowing you to avoid mining iron? It's an utter waste of time. You are wasting your time, breaking the game, in order to achieve what the game ALREADY DID FOR YOU!

    @boomzilla said:

    I can definitely see the draw in figuring out how to exploit loopholes. If you can't, then, whatever.

    O I can absolutely see the interest in pushing a game to it's limits and figuring out these things. That's exploration and problem solving and can certainly be very interesting. I like to do stuff like that in strategy games. What I can't see is how it's fun to USE them, especially when you're just copying someone else. You select the mode where resources are scarce and then break the game so that they're infinite. You spend 20 hours doing this. Why? Why didn't you spend 1 second picking Creative mode instead?

    @boomzilla said:

    Not new at all. There's a significant difference between playing by the rules and getting super advantages and just playing god (creative) mode. I get that you don't care about it, but that's probably just your lack of imagination or something.

    This isn't playing by the rules. This is wasting 20 hours of your life to recreate god mode. I'm not saying "Never play survival mode!". I'm saying if you want infinite resources why not just pick that mode?

    @boomzilla said:

    There really is no accounting for taste. Otherwise, how to explain Japan?

    I don't understand Japan either. But they give us video games, Godzilla and sake so whatever...


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    @KillaCoda said:

    @boomzilla said:
    Not new at all. There's a significant difference between playing by the rules and getting super advantages and just playing god (creative) mode. I get that you don't care about it, but that's probably just your lack of imagination or something.

    This isn't playing by the rules. This is wasting 20 hours of your life to recreate god mode. I'm not saying "Never play survival mode!". I'm saying if you want infinite resources why not just pick that mode?

    Yes, thank you for confirming what I said.



  • @Castaigne said:

    There's not much they make that has a good story these days, which is always what grabbed me.

    ... seriously?

    Methinks you speak from ignorance. FPS games now have, by and large, excellent writing. Spec Ops: The Line (technically a 3rd person cover-based shooter, not an FPS) and Bioshock Infinite, both recent releases, are my favorite game stories EVER.

    Even multiplayer games that have a single player mode so they can check off a box on the packaging (like for example Battlefield: Bad Company 2) have passable writing now.

    Halo 4's story is uber-weak and dumb, though. Avoid. It feels like it was written by the Star Trek Voyager staff right after they did Threshold. The amount of nonsensical technobabble is baffling for a Halo game. And the way it excuses Halsey for her crimes via. space alien psychic "destiny control" powers is fucking terrible. It doesn't just ruin Master Chief's story, but it pre-emptively ruins the second most interesting Halo character's story. With what is essentially magic. Not to mention the whole story summarizes down to: "guy causes a problem, millions of people die, guy gradually solves the problem he caused, everybody cheers guy as a hero" which is the worst type of story.

    @Castaigne said:

    Those are my wife's games, stuff like that. I'm an Axis & Allies, Civilization, Talisman type of board gamer. But nothing involving lead figurines, please Jesus.

    Diplomacy is the best, because it leads to the most murders.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @boomzilla said:

    @KillaCoda said:
    @boomzilla said:
    Not new at all. There's a significant difference between playing by the rules and getting super advantages and just playing god (creative) mode. I get that you don't care about it, but that's probably just your lack of imagination or something.

    This isn't playing by the rules. This is wasting 20 hours of your life to recreate god mode. I'm not saying "Never play survival mode!". I'm saying if you want infinite resources why not just pick that mode?

    Yes, thank you for confirming what I said.

    Will you two stop violently agreeing with each other and get a room?



  • @KillaCoda said:

    It literally hurts my brain that people refuse to play the Creative mode which exists for the sole purpose of giving you infinite blocks to play with..... and then waste 20 hours of their life setting complex, game breaking (or at least stretching) systems to... create infinite blocks...

    The Minecraft guys gave you Creative mode so you wouldn't HAVE to spend 20 hours creating an iron generator! You have infinite iron! Go nuts!.

    Man. Nobody reads my posts, do they? I made that exact point yesterday, you could at least name-drop me.



  • @KillaCoda said:

    O I can absolutely see the interest in pushing a game to it's limits and figuring out these things. That's exploration and problem solving and can certainly be very interesting. I like to do stuff like that in strategy games. What I can't see is how it's fun to USE them, especially when you're just copying someone else. You select the mode where resources are scarce and then break the game so that they're infinite. You spend 20 hours doing this. Why? Why didn't you spend 1 second picking Creative mode instead?

     

    Because spending those 20 hours makes it worth more. The point of it is to struggle gradually from punching wood and being this lone wanderer at the mercy of the elements and over time get to a place where you are a godlike being and master of all you survey. Sure, you can just start off as a godlike being, but then you wouldn't have stuggled for it, and you won't be able to claim the feeling of accomplishment said struggle brings. The point isn't just to have infinite amounts of stuff. Its to be able to say "I have imposed my WILL upon this world and all of it's resources are MINE to do with as I see fit." after fighting through weeks (in-game) of basically being the world's bitch.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Snooder said:



    Oh cmon. Lubbock, Abilene? Midland-Odessa? Plenty of nicely conservative cities in Texas. Midland-Odessa at the very least people should have heard of from Friday Night Lights. And is probably exactly what people imagine when they think of Texas. Oil rigs, ranches and Baptists, mm.

    Heard of 'em, never been to 'em. Didn't want to guess wrong.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @morbiuswilters said:

    @Ronald said:
    Which is quite an achievement after seeing the cast from Storage Wars Texas.

    I like how they're all wearing cowboy boots. Like "Hey, people might forget this is Texas if everyone doesn't look like some pussy Hollywood fantasy of what Texas is like!"

    Seriously, what kind of douchebag would wear cowboy boots on a day-to-day basis? Especially when you consider that if you put the people in that photo on horses, half would have to be put down for having their spines snap or their leg bones shatter.

    Cowboy boots are perfectly cromulent for walking. I wore a pair for a year or two, until I got tired of the lack of traction.

    They're not ideal for an urban environment, certainly, but that's why I said "cromulent" and not "fine." And they're more useful than a BBQ gun.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @morbiuswilters said:

    Do you eat your finished sudokus? (Actually, that would explain a lot..)

    I print my sudokus on cake precisely so I can eat them.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @morbiuswilters said:

    @Snooder said:
    Meanwhile, if I, for example, spend a week building a castle in Minecraft with my hypothetical kids...

    And as long as you're playing Minecraft, hypothetical is all they're going to be.

    @Snooder said:

    ...you can be damn sure they'll cherish those moments for the rest of their lives.

    Actually, I DO have a kid, and we DO sometimes play minecraft together. He enjoys that as much as playing catch. That doesn't mean we spend all day every day playing video games.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @blakeyrat said:

    And the "quest for iron" is ridiculous because in creative mode you have all you need, and in survival mode it's a game mechanic that you don't have all you need. So I don't get the point in any case.

    The thing about a golem farm is that once you have built it you DO have all you need, in survival, without cheating.

    I don't see how it's any worse than, say, doing a puzzle. Lots of people do those, too. Hell, any given puzzle you can find at a regular store, lots of people have done before too, so I guess that invalidates the idea of doing puzzles, too!

    I've already restarted that world, and my next golem farm--already under construction--will be more or less my own design, based on the standard one. But once I build one cell, I'm not going to waste time redoing them all by hand; I'll clone them with a tool.

    As I said, I did it because I wanted to see how much effort it would take and how doable it is. Now that I've done that, I know, and don't feel a need to do it again. I suppose you have never done anything just for the sake of doing it.



  • @Snooder said:

    @KillaCoda said:

    O I can absolutely see the interest in pushing a game to it's limits and figuring out these things. That's exploration and problem solving and can certainly be very interesting. I like to do stuff like that in strategy games. What I can't see is how it's fun to USE them, especially when you're just copying someone else. You select the mode where resources are scarce and then break the game so that they're infinite. You spend 20 hours doing this. Why? Why didn't you spend 1 second picking Creative mode instead?

    Because spending those 20 hours makes it worth more. The point of it is to struggle gradually from punching wood and being this lone wanderer at the mercy of the elements and over time get to a place where you are a godlike being and master of all you survey. Sure, you can just start off as a godlike being, but then you wouldn't have stuggled for it, and you won't be able to claim the feeling of accomplishment said struggle brings. The point isn't just to have infinite amounts of stuff. Its to be able to say "I have imposed my WILL upon this world and all of it's resources are MINE to do with as I see fit." after fighting through weeks (in-game) of basically being the world's bitch.

    But you cheated to do it! That's like going into Skyrim and just typing "advskill 9999999999" for every skill. The only diffrrence is your cheat takes 20 hours and the Skyrim one takes 5 minutes. What's the point of the "accomplishment" if you cheated to get there?



  • @FrostCat said:

    @blakeyrat said:

    And the "quest for iron" is ridiculous because in creative mode you have all you need, and in survival mode it's a game mechanic that you don't have all you need. So I don't get the point in any case.

    The thing about a golem farm is that once you have built it you DO have all you need, in survival, without cheating.

    I don't see how it's any worse than, say, doing a puzzle. Lots of people do those, too. Hell, any given puzzle you can find at a regular store, lots of people have done before too, so I guess that invalidates the idea of doing puzzles, too!

    I've already restarted that world, and my next golem farm--already under construction--will be more or less my own design, based on the standard one. But once I build one cell, I'm not going to waste time redoing them all by hand; I'll clone them with a tool.

    As I said, I did it because I wanted to see how much effort it would take and how doable it is. Now that I've done that, I know, and don't feel a need to do it again. I suppose you have never done anything just for the sake of doing it.

    How is building 8 villages in 1 cube "not cheating"?


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @blakeyrat said:

    @Snooder said:

    @KillaCoda said:

    O I can absolutely see the interest in pushing a game to it's limits and figuring out these things. That's exploration and problem solving and can certainly be very interesting. I like to do stuff like that in strategy games. What I can't see is how it's fun to USE them, especially when you're just copying someone else. You select the mode where resources are scarce and then break the game so that they're infinite. You spend 20 hours doing this. Why? Why didn't you spend 1 second picking Creative mode instead?

    Because spending those 20 hours makes it worth more. The point of it is to struggle gradually from punching wood and being this lone wanderer at the mercy of the elements and over time get to a place where you are a godlike being and master of all you survey. Sure, you can just start off as a godlike being, but then you wouldn't have stuggled for it, and you won't be able to claim the feeling of accomplishment said struggle brings. The point isn't just to have infinite amounts of stuff. Its to be able to say "I have imposed my WILL upon this world and all of it's resources are MINE to do with as I see fit." after fighting through weeks (in-game) of basically being the world's bitch.

    But you cheated to do it! That's like going into Skyrim and just typing "advskill 9999999999" for every skill. The only diffrrence is your cheat takes 20 hours and the Skyrim one takes 5 minutes. What's the point of the "accomplishment" if you cheated to get there?

    Because creative mode is all-or-nothing, I guess. Why do people play Nethack with conducts, or various Ironman challenges in other RLs?


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @blakeyrat said:

    How is building 8 villages in 1 cube "not cheating"?

    Who's doing that? We were talking about regular farms, not the iron trench, for the most part.

    Hey, are people who build elaborate castles in Terraria without using editors stupid?



  • @blakeyrat said:

    But you cheated to do it! That's like going into Skyrim and just typing "advskill 9999999999" for every skill. The only diffrrence is your cheat takes 20 hours and the Skyrim one takes 5 minutes. What's the point of the "accomplishment" if you cheated to get there?



    First, those 20 hours are a pretty big difference. Having to invest a significant degree of time and effort into something makes it an accomplishment.

    Second, it's MINECRAFT. The game is all about building complex systems to automate processes. Building a golem farm is no more "cheating" than building an automatic wheat farm or a cactus farm or a mob grinding tower. Which is itself no more cheating than building a kill box in front of your castle to kill mobs without ever getting hit.

     



  • @FrostCat said:

    We were talking about regular farms, not the iron trench, for the most part.

    We were? "For the most part?" Did you guys just yank the rug of this topic out from under me?

    For the record, *I* was talking about the "iron trench" which is obviously a cheat. I have no fucking clue what the fuck you people are all talking about. Make up your mind and let me know.



  • @Snooder said:

    First, those 20 hours are a pretty big difference. Having to invest a significant degree of time and effort into something makes it an accomplishment.

    No it doesn't. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

    I mean I guess by the strict definition of the weasel-word "accomplishment", yes, the statement is true. But there's no fucking value in, say, spending a significant degree of time and effort into storing your urine in labeled jars.

    @Snooder said:

    Second, it's MINECRAFT. The game is all about building complex systems to automate processes. Building a golem farm is no more "cheating" than building an automatic wheat farm or a cactus farm or a mob grinding tower. Which is itself no more cheating than building a kill box in front of your castle to kill mobs without ever getting hit.

    I 100% agree with that. I was talking about the cheat that this entire topic was about until sometime in the last 4 posts when it magically turned into a topic about something else entirely.

    I was just saying if you're going to cheat, do the 5 minute cheat and not the 20 hour cheat.



  • @FrostCat said:

    @morbiuswilters said:
    @Ronald said:
    Which is quite an achievement after seeing the cast from Storage Wars Texas.
    I like how they're all wearing cowboy boots. Like "Hey, people might forget this is Texas if everyone doesn't look like some pussy Hollywood fantasy of what Texas is like!"

    Seriously, what kind of douchebag would wear cowboy boots on a day-to-day basis? Especially when you consider that if you put the people in that photo on horses, half would have to be put down for having their spines snap or their leg bones shatter.
    Cowboy boots are perfectly cromulent for walking. I wore a pair for a year or two, until I got tired of the lack of traction. They're not ideal for an urban environment, certainly, but that's why I said "cromulent" and not "fine." And they're more useful than a BBQ gun.

     

    Wait, is this hypthetical BBQ Gun a gun that BBQ's things, a gun that shoots BBQ Sauce, or a gun that shoots actual BBQ?  If the third case, then what style BBQ would it shoot?  Whole BBQ Ribs?  Shredded Pork?  Pulled Pork? Whole BBQ Chickens?  Dry Rub?  If it shoots actual BBQ or BBQ's things then I think that would be pretty darn useful!


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @blakeyrat said:

    @FrostCat said:
    We were talking about regular farms, not the iron trench, for the most part.

    We were? "For the most part?" Did you guys just yank the rug of this topic out from under me?

    For the record, *I* was talking about the "iron trench" which is obviously a cheat. I have no fucking clue what the fuck you people are all talking about. Make up your mind and let me know.

    I brought up the iron trench for amusement value. Most people, if they're going to go to the trouble, would opt for a regular farm. The trench is a LOT more work, and it's finicky to build right.

    So it's legit for you to talk about it, but if you're going to bash me for building something, you should be griping about the right thing.


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    @Medezark said:

    Wait, is this hypthetical BBQ Gun a gun that BBQ's things, a gun that shoots BBQ Sauce, or a gun that shoots actual BBQ?  If the third case, then what style BBQ would it shoot?  Whole BBQ Ribs?  Shredded Pork?  Pulled Pork? Whole BBQ Chickens?  Dry Rub?  If it shoots actual BBQ or BBQ's things then I think that would be pretty darn useful!

    BBQ Gun.



  • @Snooder said:

    First, those 20 hours are a pretty big difference. Having to invest a significant degree of time and effort into something makes it an accomplishment.


    Second, it's MINECRAFT. The game is all about building complex systems to automate processes. Building a golem farm is no more "cheating" than building an automatic wheat farm or a cactus farm or a mob grinding tower. Which is itself no more cheating than building a kill box in front of your castle to kill mobs without ever getting hit.

     

    I don't consider anything in a computer game an accomplishment, impressive maybe but not an accomplishment.

     



  • @FrostCat said:

    Cowboy boots are perfectly cromulent for walking. I wore a pair for a year or two, until I got tired of the lack of traction.

    The lack of traction is what I'm talking about. That and the fact that you'll get blisters if you try to walk more than a mile in them. And you've got the top of the boot always rubbing against your shin as you walk..



  • @Snooder said:

    First, those 20 hours are a pretty big difference. Having to invest a significant degree of time and effort into something makes it an accomplishment.

    Worst. Rationalization. Ever.



  • @FrostCat said:

    BBQ Gun.

    lmgtfy? What's that stand for?


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    @morbiuswilters said:

    @Snooder said:
    First, those 20 hours are a pretty big difference. Having to invest a significant degree of time and effort into something makes it an accomplishment.

    Worst. Rationalization. Ever.

    Labor theory of accomplishment? At least fewer than dozens of millions of people have been killed for it.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @FrostCat said:
    Cowboy boots are perfectly cromulent for walking. I wore a pair for a year or two, until I got tired of the lack of traction.

    The lack of traction is what I'm talking about. That and the fact that you'll get blisters if you try to walk more than a mile in them. And you've got the top of the boot always rubbing against your shin as you walk..



    Oh, you were thinking of shitty boots. Personally I find my boots significantly more comfortable to walk in than dress shoes.Loafers come close, but the soles are pretty thin and after a while in em I start to feel every little rock and pebble right through the sole.



  • @boomzilla said:

    @morbiuswilters said:
    @Snooder said:
    First, those 20 hours are a pretty big difference. Having to invest a significant degree of time and effort into something makes it an accomplishment.

    Worst. Rationalization. Ever.

    Labor theory of accomplishment? At least fewer than dozens of millions of people have been killed for it.

    "Here, move these rocks from where they're at to over there. Then, move them back."

    "That doesn't sound like fun.."

    "YOU WILL FEEL ACCOMPLISHED."



  • @Snooder said:

    Oh, you were thinking of shitty boots. Personally I find my boots significantly more comfortable to walk in than dress shoes.Loafers come close, but the soles are pretty thin and after a while in em I start to feel every little rock and pebble right through the sole.

    So basically you're just wearing cowboy-styled tennis shoes. Do you still think that doesn't sound douche-y?


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    @morbiuswilters said:

    @Snooder said:
    Oh, you were thinking of shitty boots. Personally I find my boots significantly more comfortable to walk in than dress shoes.Loafers come close, but the soles are pretty thin and after a while in em I start to feel every little rock and pebble right through the sole.

    So basically you're just wearing cowboy-styled tennis shoes. Do you still think that doesn't sound douche-y?

    I don't own any such footwear, but I'm failing to see the douciness factor here.



  • @boomzilla said:

    I don't own any such footwear, but I'm failing to see the douciness factor here.

    Cowboy boots were made for riding. And they've generally been surpassed by other riding boots. This guy is strutting around in his pink shirt and boots, like he thinks he's a goddamn cowboy. It's shameful. Then add in the fact that he's not even wearing actual cowboy boots, but just tennis shoes that resemble cowboy boots, and it takes the "being a poseur twatbag" to a whole new level.

    Seriously, it would be like me going around dressed up like a space marine, shouting "Oorah!" and aiming my pretend laser gun at people.



  • @boomzilla said:

    @morbiuswilters said:
    @Snooder said:
    Oh, you were thinking of shitty boots. Personally I find my boots significantly more comfortable to walk in than dress shoes.Loafers come close, but the soles are pretty thin and after a while in em I start to feel every little rock and pebble right through the sole.

    So basically you're just wearing cowboy-styled tennis shoes. Do you still think that doesn't sound douche-y?

    I don't own any such footwear, but I'm failing to see the douciness factor here.

    Well we have one guy here who gets a hard-on when other people know C-B lingo, and he's making fun of a metrosexual who wears cowboy boots. I'm not sure exactly where is the irony but I can sense there is some.


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    @morbiuswilters said:

    Seriously, it would be like me going around dressed up like a space marine, shouting "Oorah!" and aiming my pretend laser gun at people.

    Um. No.

    @morbiuswilters said:

    Then add in the fact that he's not even wearing actual cowboy boots, but just tennis shoes that resemble cowboy boots, and it takes the "being a poseur twatbag" to a whole new level.

    I don't think you get this whole fashion thing.



  • @boomzilla said:

    Um. No.

    Sure it would.

    @boomzilla said:

    I don't think you get this whole fashion thing.

    Pink shirts and cowboy boots and I'm the one who doesn't get it? What the fuck is wrong with you people? Did your mom drop you on the part of the head that let you differentiate between things that look good and things that look like shit? Do you not realize that playing Suburban Cowboy makes you look like as big of a twat as a guy who gets spray-on tans and rides a motorcycle??



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @Snooder said:
    Oh, you were thinking of shitty boots. Personally I find my boots significantly more comfortable to walk in than dress shoes.Loafers come close, but the soles are pretty thin and after a while in em I start to feel every little rock and pebble right through the sole.

    So basically you're just wearing cowboy-styled tennis shoes. Do you still think that doesn't sound douche-y?



    What the hell are you talking about. Have you ever actually worn (or even seen) a pair of cowboy boots?



  • @Snooder said:

    @morbiuswilters said:

    @Snooder said:
    Oh, you were thinking of shitty boots. Personally I find my boots significantly more comfortable to walk in than dress shoes.Loafers come close, but the soles are pretty thin and after a while in em I start to feel every little rock and pebble right through the sole.

    So basically you're just wearing cowboy-styled tennis shoes. Do you still think that doesn't sound douche-y?

    What the hell are you talking about. Have you ever actually worn (or even seen) a pair of cowboy boots?

    Yes, and what you are describing aren't even cowboy boots, they're just rubber-soled, cushioned insert shoes made to look like cowboy boots for douche-y suburban types.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    my pretend laser gun

    Is this yet another euphemism for your penis?


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