I hate printers, with a passion
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@Arantor said in I hate printers, with a passion:
all grey.
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@HardwareGeek said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@acrow said in I hate printers, with a passion:
I had to photograph the photos off the iPad's screen.
Was the iPad on a wooden table?
I think it had a wood pattern on it, yes. But I'm pretty sure it was a chipboard table. They all are, these days. Does that still count?
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Today in printer misadventures. So, printer connected to PC via USB. Try to print over USB? Nothing happens, not even an error message! Try to print over IPP? Works perfectly! Herpderp.
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@Atazhaia said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Today in printer misadventures. So, printer connected to PC via USB. Try to print over USB? Nothing happens, not even an error message! Try to print over IPP? Works perfectly! Herpderp.
Sounds more like a driver that reports itself as something it isn't. would be the printer actually running some sort of IP-over-USB.
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Motherfucker let's gooooo!!!!
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@LaoC said in I hate printers, with a passion:
would be the printer actually running some sort of IP-over-USB.
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@Circuitsoft said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@LaoC said in I hate printers, with a passion:
would be the printer actually running some sort of IP-over-USB.
figures.
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@LaoC In my case it could be either. IPP is so any of my computers can access it over the network without me having to run a printer server on one of them.
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@acrow said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@HardwareGeek said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@acrow said in I hate printers, with a passion:
I had to photograph the photos off the iPad's screen.
Was the iPad on a wooden table?
I think it had a wood pattern on it, yes. But I'm pretty sure it was a chipboard table. They all are, these days. Does that still count?
Yes for
wooden
, no forwood
, according to natural law.
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@Zerosquare Now I remember what I really dislike about the magnificent speed of line printers.(1)
Um, that it isn't magnificent, and that it barely qualifies as speed.
(1) It prints one line at a time, ergo, it's a line printer.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in I hate printers, with a passion:
It prints one line at a time, ergo, it's a line printer.
My printer prints multiple lines at a time, provided they're pure black. (It's got an extra wide black print head.)
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@dkf said in I hate printers, with a passion:
multiple lines at a time, provided they're pure black. (It's got an extra wide black print head.)
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@Gribnit said in I hate printers, with a passion:
It's got an extra wide black print head.
That's what she said?
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@CodeJunkie said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Gribnit said in I hate printers, with a passion:
It's got an extra wide black print head.
That's what she said?
Probably, at least once, somewhere.
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So why is it that now, in 2022, using a PC printer is up there with massaging your dog’s anal glands on the list of jobs you’d do anything to avoid? It’d be simpler for me to plan an elaborate, sexy heist in which I break into the Gutenberg Museum with a team of Turkish acrobats and use a 600-year-old relic to hand-print my British Airways boarding pass than it is to just plug in my bastard laserjet.
It shouldn’t be like trying to make a cat play the trumpet.
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Dunno about other feline WTDWTF members, but I already play a musical instrument. On the other hand, it's not a trumpet, so maybe that doesn't count?
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@Zerosquare French horn?
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Nope:
https://i.imgur.com/vvGaDlM.jpgI also have a ukulele I've been too to learn to play, and a small kalimba.
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@Zerosquare That is almost insufferably awesome
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Not sure why you think so, but I'll take it as a compliment?
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@Zerosquare Please do, for that's what was intended. The remaining part is me lamenting my own inadequacies. I can't play worth crap.
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@Applied-Mediocrity That's a pretty simple piece, at least the part that's visible in the photo. It appears to be from Fauré's "Dolly Suite", written for his young daughter, Dolly. The right and left hands are playing simple, rhythmically identical, one-note melody/accompaniment. I could probably play it decently with some practice, but I wouldn't be able to sight-read it. I could probably sight-read the right hand, very imperfectly, and maybe the left, individually, but putting them together would definitely take a fair bit of practice, enough to get them into muscle memory. My eye-hand coordination just doesn't like fine muscle control of both hands at the same time.
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@HardwareGeek said in I hate printers, with a passion:
My eye-hand coordination just doesn't like fine muscle control of both hands at the same time.
Prescription, 500 hours of Robotron 64.
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@Zerosquare said in I hate printers, with a passion:
it's not a trumpet, so maybe that doesn't count?
Trumpets themselves are more-or-less not instruments, being little more than bugles, which, like bagpipes, are actually weapons.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in I hate printers, with a passion:
an elaborate, sexy heist in which I break into the Gutenberg Museum
Gutenberg heists are sexy unless specifically avoided, due to the tilted floors.
with a team of Turkish acrobats
Well, here we have to consider mustache length,
lenCm == 0 || lenCm >= 20
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@Applied-Mediocrity: if that makes you feel any better, it's a photo I found on Google. My actual MIDI keyboard is below my computer keyboard, and surrounded by all kind of random junk that I can't be bothered to organize. Also, I don't have a cat, I can't remember the last time I read sheet music on paper, and my skills have regressed a lot compared to 25 years ago, because of the preventing me from practicing regularly.
Here's an old, actual video of me playing a MIDIfied floppy drive I designed, complete with mid-2000s terrible AV quality, shaky picture from holding the camera with the other hand, and sloppy execution (including wrong notes at the end):
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in I hate printers, with a passion:
So why is it that now, in 2022, using a PC printer is up there with massaging your dog’s anal glands on the list of jobs you’d do anything to avoid? It’d be simpler for me to plan an elaborate, sexy heist in which I break into the Gutenberg Museum with a team of Turkish acrobats and use a 600-year-old relic to hand-print my British Airways boarding pass than it is to just plug in my bastard laserjet.
It shouldn’t be like trying to make a cat play the trumpet.
Article :
German goldsmith Johannes Gutenberg invented the first printing press around 1436.
Short answer: "No". Long answer: The printing press existed before Gutenberg. What he invented was movable type - being able to change what the press would print merely by rearranging the letters, rather than by carving a new whole-page block of print.
But in general, I recognise essentially none of the problems that Mr Elliot describes. My "bastard laserjet" (actually really a Laserjet, specifically a Color Laserjet mw252, with duplex printing and colour) just works, and without any "proprietary cables". (It is connected electr(on)ically only to a supply of 230V AC, with WiFi supplying the rest of the connectivity required.)
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@Gribnit said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@HardwareGeek said in I hate printers, with a passion:
My eye-hand coordination just doesn't like fine muscle control of both hands at the same time.
Prescription, 500 hours of Robotron 64.
Pfft. Robotron: 2084.
EDIT: or even Berzerk
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in I hate printers, with a passion:
I recognise essentially none of the problems that Mr Elliot describes. My "bastard laserjet" [..] just works,
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in I hate printers, with a passion:
So why is it that now, in 2022, using a PC printer is up there with massaging your dog’s anal glands on the list of jobs you’d do anything to avoid? It’d be simpler for me to plan an elaborate, sexy heist in which I break into the Gutenberg Museum with a team of Turkish acrobats and use a 600-year-old relic to hand-print my British Airways boarding pass than it is to just plug in my bastard laserjet.
It shouldn’t be like trying to make a cat play the trumpet.
Ah, a Windows user!
reads TFA
Yep:
And to engage with these monsters we have to use the most heinous of all things: the printer software.
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@Gribnit said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Zerosquare said in I hate printers, with a passion:
it's not a trumpet, so maybe that doesn't count?
Trumpets themselves are more-or-less not instruments, being little more than bugles, which, like bagpipes, are actually weapons.
Can confirm. When I briefly rented a trumpet in 4th grade my best skill was sneaking up behind friends and issuing a loud toot. To be fair, the talents were mutual.
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@boomzilla said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Gribnit said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Zerosquare said in I hate printers, with a passion:
it's not a trumpet, so maybe that doesn't count?
Trumpets themselves are more-or-less not instruments, being little more than bugles, which, like bagpipes, are actually weapons.
Can confirm. When I briefly rented a trumpet in 4th grade my best skill was sneaking up behind friends and issuing a loud toot. To be fair, the talents were mutual.
I didn't even need the trumpet
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@boomzilla said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Gribnit said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Zerosquare said in I hate printers, with a passion:
it's not a trumpet, so maybe that doesn't count?
Trumpets themselves are more-or-less not instruments, being little more than bugles, which, like bagpipes, are actually weapons.
Can confirm. When I briefly rented a trumpet in 4th grade my best skill was sneaking up behind friends and issuing a loud toot. To be fair, the talents were mutual.
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Article @Applied-Mediocrity posted in I hate printers, with a passion said:
massaging your dog’s anal glands on the list of jobs you’d do anything to avoid?
Hey now....
I should probably do that, double check if that's the source of the mushroom soup smell that's started recently...
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Gribnit said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@HardwareGeek said in I hate printers, with a passion:
My eye-hand coordination just doesn't like fine muscle control of both hands at the same time.
Prescription, 500 hours of Robotron 64.
Pfft. Robotron: 2084.
EDIT: or even Berzerk
As long as it requires using two distinct controllers, that's the important bit. 64 let (made?) you do so, it was gloriously wasteful.
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@Gribnit said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Steve_The_Cynic said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Gribnit said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@HardwareGeek said in I hate printers, with a passion:
My eye-hand coordination just doesn't like fine muscle control of both hands at the same time.
Prescription, 500 hours of Robotron 64.
Pfft. Robotron: 2084.
EDIT: or even Berzerk
As long as it requires using two distinct controllers, that's the important bit. 64 let (made?) you do so, it was gloriously wasteful.
Robotron 64 was sixteen years late to that party.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Gribnit said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Steve_The_Cynic said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Gribnit said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@HardwareGeek said in I hate printers, with a passion:
My eye-hand coordination just doesn't like fine muscle control of both hands at the same time.
Prescription, 500 hours of Robotron 64.
Pfft. Robotron: 2084.
EDIT: or even Berzerk
As long as it requires using two distinct controllers, that's the important bit. 64 let (made?) you do so, it was gloriously wasteful.
Robotron 64 was sixteen years late to that party.
Unless there's an Atari game that used two controller ports for one player, no. Sensical 2-joystick arrangements don't count.
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@Gribnit said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Steve_The_Cynic said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Gribnit said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Steve_The_Cynic said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Gribnit said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@HardwareGeek said in I hate printers, with a passion:
My eye-hand coordination just doesn't like fine muscle control of both hands at the same time.
Prescription, 500 hours of Robotron 64.
Pfft. Robotron: 2084.
EDIT: or even Berzerk
As long as it requires using two distinct controllers, that's the important bit. 64 let (made?) you do so, it was gloriously wasteful.
Robotron 64 was sixteen years late to that party.
Unless there's an Atari game that used two controller ports for one player, no. Sensical 2-joystick arrangements don't count.
Star Raiders used a joystick and the Video Touch Pad.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in I hate printers, with a passion:
...without any "proprietary cables".
The only truly proprietary cables I've had for printers were power cables, and I've only had one or two of those. The others used either a transformer and barrel jack, the three pin standard power supply cable, or the cable was permanently attached.
Data cables were always some kind of standard, though I wouldn't expect most folks to know that the device (B) end of that USB cable is actually a standard. Sure, I had to use a printer interface to go between my Commodores' serial port and the parallel Centronics connector most printers of the time used, but both were a standard.
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@Parody said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Steve_The_Cynic said in I hate printers, with a passion:
...without any "proprietary cables".
The only truly proprietary cables I've had for printers were power cables, and I've only had one or two of those. The others used either a transformer and barrel jack, the three pin standard power supply cable, or the cable was permanently attached.
Data cables were always some kind of standard, though I wouldn't expect most folks to know that the device (B) end of that USB cable is actually a standard. Sure, I had to use a printer interface to go between my Commodores' serial port and the parallel Centronics connector most printers of the time used, but both were a standard.
I mentioned "proprietary cables" because the article mentioned them, although they form one of the problems that he has that I don't recognise. (My experience is similar - three-pin kettle plug (so called because it's common at the device end of power cables for electric kettles in the UK), some sort of power brick(1) or a permanently-attached cable for power, Centronics or USB for data.)
(1) One might argue that a power brick is "proprietary" in the narrow sense that an HP printer power brick probably isn't right for a Canon printer, even though both follow some standard or other. The source for the quote about standards being wonderful because there are so many to choose from is disputed, so I'll just leave y'all with https://xkcd.com/927/
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@Gribnit said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Steve_The_Cynic said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Gribnit said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Steve_The_Cynic said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Gribnit said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@HardwareGeek said in I hate printers, with a passion:
My eye-hand coordination just doesn't like fine muscle control of both hands at the same time.
Prescription, 500 hours of Robotron 64.
Pfft. Robotron: 2084.
EDIT: or even Berzerk
As long as it requires using two distinct controllers, that's the important bit. 64 let (made?) you do so, it was gloriously wasteful.
Robotron 64 was sixteen years late to that party.
Unless there's an Atari game that used two controller ports for one player, no. Sensical 2-joystick arrangements don't count.
Robotron 2084 was an arcade machine from 1982 that used a pair of sticks (movement direction and shooting direction). Being an arcade machine, it allowed you to play with one stick in each hand and not worry about supporting the base of the controller. But it was released sixteen years before Robotron 64.
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Welcome to the world of Windows Printing!
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-warns-that-new-windows-updates-may-break-printing/
No, that's a current article:July 22, 2022 10:30 AM