The Official Status Thread

Zenith

@TwelveBaud Everything I read said as long as ReverseDNS showed the server name, the other stuff like SPF would cover the domain name. CPanel says the issue is they have two names associated with my server's IP (asoshared and avonda). Dropping the one that isn't the box name should work. In theory anyway...

That said, I am backing up my site again and looking for alternative hosting options. I have no idea how separating a website domain from an e-mail domain works though.

izzion

@Zenith said in The Official Status Thread:

@TwelveBaud Everything I read said as long as ReverseDNS showed the server name, the other stuff like SPF would cover the domain name. CPanel says the issue is they have two names associated with my server's IP (asoshared and avonda). Dropping the one that isn't the box name should work. In theory anyway...

That said, I am backing up my site again and looking for alternative hosting options. I have no idea how separating a website domain from an e-mail domain works though.

You pay someone for email hosting and you update the MX, SPF, DKIM, and DMARC records for your domain accordingly.

If your domain registration is through your lowest bidder website host, then you transfer that to a professional registrar (GoDaddy, Network Solutions, or one of several others - personally I find GD to be good enough support to provide a decent cost value) first, and then have that registrar take over your DNS hosting, and create the appropriate A or CNAME records for your website hosting.

TwelveBaud

@Zenith What you said is correct.

Reverse DNS shows that the server is who it claims to be.
SPF gives the server permission to send e-mail for a domain it's not in.
DKIM shows the server has a "certificate" that the domain's owners trust.
DMARC indicates that servers that don't follow those rules are spaming, which increases trust that servers that do aren't spamming.

(Also, I checked some additional things; even if you did everything correctly, your current server is on several blacklists for past spam, so you'd still not reach any inboxes.)

Ideally you'd configure cPanel and whatever runs your site to use a "smart host." Instead of trying to deliver any mail itself, it'd submit it to someone else's mail server -- presumably one that does everything properly -- and let that server do delivery. The ones I know of are SendGrid, Mandrill, and Amazon SES.

TwelveBaud

@izzion said in The Official Status Thread:

You pay someone for email hosting and you update the MX, SPF, DKIM, and DMARC records for your domain accordingly.

Only update the MX when you're ready to change where you receive mail. You can send e-mail from anywhere listed in your SPF record though.

@izzion said in The Official Status Thread:

... lowest bidder website host ... Network Solutions ...

:‌same-picture:

izzion

@TwelveBaud said in The Official Status Thread:

@izzion said in The Official Status Thread:

... lowest bidder website host ... Network Solutions ...

:‌same-picture:

For the services of domain registration and DNS, they're definitely in the acceptable band there. A bit more expensive than GoDaddy, but I wouldn't have any problems using their registrar services for something I was getting paid for.

Tsaukpaetra

status: YouTube just served me an ad that was set as a 3d video. Took me a second to figure out why it was reacting to my gyroscope input.

Weird.

julmu

@Zecc said in The Official Status Thread:

@DogsB said in The Official Status Thread:

I thought accomplished had two Cs.

Sigh. Someone should add the same image (where the spelling does have two Cs) as :mission-accomplished: while possibly still leaving :‍mission-acomplished: as an alias.

Or change the image to have only one C and add it as :mission-accomplished:

izzion

@julmu said in The Official Status Thread:

@Zecc said in The Official Status Thread:

@DogsB said in The Official Status Thread:

I thought accomplished had two Cs.

Sigh. Someone should add the same image (where the spelling does have two Cs) as :mission-accomplished: while possibly still leaving :‍mission-acomplished: as an alias.

Or change the image to have only one C and add it as :mission-accomplished:

https://what.thedailywtf.com/post/2173131

Tsaukpaetra

Status: MFW father buys a nice bag for holding a tripod off an auction for $3 but doesn't realize it also contains $500 worth of equipment with it.

Edit: And now I'm temporarily blind because he turned it on with the cover, which was protecting a rather powerful LED bulb with a chonker heatsink. Said cover was melting.

hungrier

Shut up and let me be lazy, Xbox. I just want to get my daily bonuspointzzzz without going all the way over to my actual console

Zerosquare

@hungrier said in The Official Status Thread:

let me be lazy, Xbox. I just want to get my daily bonuspointzzzz

You don't need an Xbox. There's WTDWTF for that.

Tsaukpaetra

Status: Oh noes, my 1-day warranty is expired!

Parody

@Zecc said in The Official Status Thread:

@DogsB said in The Official Status Thread:

I thought accomplished had two Cs.

Sigh. Someone should add the same image (where the spelling does have two Cs) as :mission-accomplished: while possibly still leaving :‍mission-acomplished: as an alias.

Maybe they could do :ninja: for while they're at it.

Parody

@TwelveBaud said in The Official Status Thread:

@izzion said in The Official Status Thread:

... lowest bidder website host ... Network Solutions ...

:‌same-picture:

I'm pretty sure netsol.com and "lowest bidder" don't belong together.

DogsB

status I think I’m been gaslit. I’m convinced that html has a way to jump to a section in a page that actually works. Some bozo in the outsourced crowd is telling business it can only be done in js and will take a week.

Maybe figuring the jsp will take a day or two but js and a week is taking the piss.

Arantor

@DogsB it has always had it. That’s what the # anchor specifier in a link is.

Historically you’d define a destination with <a name="target"> then link to that using a regular <a href="#target">Jump to the target</a>

These days the link syntax is the same but you’d just declare an id on something and use that.

I doubt you’re being intentionally gaslit, more that the person telling you doesn’t actually know shit. Or the content on the page doesn’t exist and there’s some voodoo bullshit in JS that has to be worked around. Could even be in this situation. But I’d definitely have an assumption of the web dev not knowing the old ways.

Do note that this method is susceptible to jellypotato if the page size changes which can happen with dynamic content.

Zecc

@DogsB What, do you think there's like a widely supported scrollIntoView method on elements, or something?

Arantor

@Zecc said in The Official Status Thread:

@DogsB What, do you think there's like a widely supported scrollIntoView method on elements, or something?

Of course not. That’s why jQuery had to invent it, but we can’t use jQuery any more despite a new version coming out, because it’s so OLD.

DogsB

@Arantor said in The Official Status Thread:

@DogsB it has always had it. That’s what the # anchor specifier in a link is.

Historically you’d define a destination with <a name="target"> then link to that using a regular <a href="#target">Jump to the target</a>

These days the link syntax is the same but you’d just declare an id on something and use that.

I doubt you’re being intentionally gaslit, more that the person telling you doesn’t actually know shit. Or the content on the page doesn’t exist and there’s some voodoo bullshit in JS that has to be worked around. Could even be in this situation. But I’d definitely have an assumption of the web dev not knowing the old ways.

Do note that this method is susceptible to jellypotato if the page size changes which can happen with dynamic content.

I need to stop reading their emails. Thanks for reminding me I’m not a complete hack… yet.

I also finished my first python unit test! Python is like reading moonrunes after working in Java for so long. I can see why so many people use it though.

izzion

@DogsB said in The Official Status Thread:

I also finished my first python unit test! Python is like reading moonrunes after working in Java for so long. I can see why so many people use it though.

Time to celebrate by 100%ing the next Tales game!

DogsB

@izzion said in The Official Status Thread:

@DogsB said in The Official Status Thread:

I also finished my first python unit test! Python is like reading moonrunes after working in Java for so long. I can see why so many people use it though.

Time to celebrate by 100%ing the next Tales game!

Be still my beating heart! I was actually thinking of Lies of P.

I wonder if @error has beaten it and if it's any good. Last I heard they were still patching balance though.

DogsB

@DogsB said in The Official Status Thread:

I also finished my first python unit test! Python is like reading moonrunes after working in Java for so long. I can see why so many people use it though.

Chatgpt appears to be pathologically awful with Python. Googling isn’t much better. I ended up reading the doc.

Zenith

Status: So tired.

Comcast forum agent tells me to contact customer support, even though I was posting there because support was useless. Customer support does what they did last time, ask me my billing info and transfer me to somebody else that asks my billing info before finally telling me to fill out this form that's linked nowhere in the FAQ because why would it. The form tells me none of the IPs I've submitted as potentially blocked are blocked.

MailChimp/MandrillApp told me I wasn't on a blacklist because their delivery logs show e-mails making it to the inbox. I don't believe this because when I send e-mail, it's fire and forget. You can't really confirm it reached the destination; no error reported means literally no error reported. So I asked if they saw e-mails for specific dates and they won't confirm the dates but now they say my inbox is rejecting e-mails as spam.

So, wait, they were going the inbox but now they're not? And I get the bullshit advice to add the sender to my safe sender list, even though other e-mails with the same address already get through. I'm having a real difficult time believing the spam filter is catching order notifications and not advertisements from the SAME E-MAIL SOURCE.

Oh, and I also have my e-mail account set to override default spam filters and let it go to my inbox after it passes my routing rules. Even if it wasn't, spam was set to go to a spam folder instead of being deleted. Of course, that all depends on the settings actually being honored (it keeps losing the "allow mail apps to connect" setting).

I have yet to hear back from customer support at the actual vendor in question but my hopes are not high.

Tsaukpaetra

@Arantor said in The Official Status Thread:

the web dev not knowing the old ways.

Filed under: dev doesn't use decade-old function to get VRAM size

Tsaukpaetra

@DogsB said in The Official Status Thread:

@DogsB said in The Official Status Thread:

I also finished my first python unit test! Python is like reading moonrunes after working in Java for so long. I can see why so many people use it though.

Chatgpt appears to be pathologically awful with Python. Googling isn’t much better. I ended up reading the doc.

I would expect that from something that makes whitespace significant.

Arantor

@Zenith well, that’s not 100% true. These marketing geniuses usually embed an image in the body with some tracking to validate the open. Some web clients will auto open this for you (in spite of the privacy implications, looking at you GMail) which will appear as tracked opens on the provider.

Certainly Mailgun can do this. I’d be surprised if Mailchimp didn’t because it’s all about the marketing where folks care about that kind of thing.

cabrito

@Arantor said in The Official Status Thread:

Some web clients will auto open this for you (in spite of the privacy implications, looking at you GMail) which will

There's a setting somewhere that prevents auto. Sorry I can't tell where, too many years I navigated there.

Tsaukpaetra

Status: Maybe, I don't know, fix the fucking button so it works??!?

How hard can it honestly be to make a working submit() function???

Fake edit: Oh hell no...

<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="VBScript">
Function vbfncheckSpecialCharsAllowed(strInput)
    SpecialChar = False
	If InStr(strInput, "!") <> 0 Then SpecialChar = True
    If InStr(strInput, "%") <> 0 Then SpecialChar = True
    If InStr(strInput, "$") <> 0 Then SpecialChar = True
    If InStr(strInput, "&") <> 0 Then SpecialChar = True
    If InStr(strInput, "'") <> 0 Then SpecialChar = True
    If InStr(strInput, "(") <> 0 Then SpecialChar = True
    If InStr(strInput, ")") <> 0 Then SpecialChar = True
    If InStr(strInput, "*") <> 0 Then SpecialChar = True
    'If InStr(strInput, "+") <> 0 Then SpecialChar = True
    If InStr(strInput, "/") <> 0 Then SpecialChar = True
    If InStr(strInput, "\") <> 0 Then SpecialChar = True
    If InStr(strInput, """") <> 0 Then SpecialChar = True
    If InStr(strInput, "<") <> 0 Then SpecialChar = True
    If InStr(strInput, ">") <> 0 Then SpecialChar = True
    vbfncheckSpecialCharsAllowed = SpecialChar
End Function
</SCRIPT>

loopback0

@Tsaukpaetra IE11 users

Tsaukpaetra

@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:

How hard can it honestly be to make a working submit() function???

Found the problem:

			<INPUT type=button value="Submit Configuration" onclick="VBScript:vbfnSubmit()" id=button1 name=button1>

The function that absolutely must be done in VBScript?

<SCRIPT language=VBScript>
	function vbfnSubmit()
dim blnNodeSelected
blnNodeSelected = "N"
		If document.frmToolOwnerConfigurations.cbxConfigured1.checked  = true then
		blnNodeSelected = "Y"
		End if	
		If blnNodeSelected = "N" then
			msgBox("No Entities selected")	
		Else	
			document.frmToolOwnerConfigurations.submit()	
		End if	
	End Function
</SCRIPT>

I don't know, folks, I think this is going to take several months of dev time to get fixed...

I want to know where folks are that get paid.

Arantor

@Tsaukpaetra man that takes me back. About 24 years back to be precise.

error

@DogsB said in The Official Status Thread:

I was actually thinking of Lies of P.
I wonder if @error has beaten it and if it's any good

I haven't played it but from what I've seen on Twitch it is very much a Dark Souls clone. So if you like that particular kind of masochism, you should like it.

error

@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:

<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="VBScript">

Was it coded by @Zenith?

Zenith

@error said in The Official Status Thread:

@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:

<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="VBScript">

Was it coded by @Zenith?

No. I wouldn't bother with the blnNodeSelected variable.

HardwareGeek

@DogsB said in The Official Status Thread:

Googling isn’t much better. I ended up reading the doc.

Googling usually takes me to docs.python.org, so .

Benjamin Hall

Status: There is a dog somewhere in a neighboring apartment that is howling non-stop. And sounds like a cow that is being slaughtered slowly and painfully.

hungrier

@Arantor said in The Official Status Thread:

@Zenith well, that’s not 100% true. These marketing geniuses usually embed an image in the body with some tracking to validate the open. Some web clients will auto open this for you (in spite of the privacy implications, looking at you GMail) which will appear as tracked opens on the provider.

Certainly Mailgun can do this. I’d be surprised if Mailchimp didn’t because it’s all about the marketing where folks care about that kind of thing.

MailChimp most likely does, but I (perhaps naively) believe that Gmail treats it like any other embedded image and doesn't fetch it unless you tell it to.

Zenith

@Arantor On the one hand, not at the protocol level. Mail functions in .NET return void, underlying call only checks is that a socket connection was opened and sent to first hop. Read receipts and stupid tricks like an embedded resource can be disabled or disrupted. Had to argue this with a lawyer that it wouldn't hold up in court to "prove" somebody received the department's e-mails.

On the other hand, since I'm not getting these e-mails, it's unlikely that anybody is opening them to trigger the callback.

The story with MailChimp isn't exactly reliable. First they claimed my mail was going through. When i asked about specific dates I should've received mail, the story shifted to being kicked back as spam. But I'm totally not on their blacklist, which last time was caused by kicking back their mail as spam.

Comcast has, predictably, been no help. For fuck's sake, I have spam detection TURNED OFF.

I'm about to call the toy store to see if their support can help but I think the two MailChimp employees have no idea what they're doing.

Tsaukpaetra

@Zenith said in The Official Status Thread:

@error said in The Official Status Thread:

@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:

<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="VBScript">

Was it coded by @Zenith?

No. I wouldn't bother with the blnNodeSelected variable.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure this section is generated server-side. At present there's currently only one row in the table and so in theory only one checkbox to check.

Why they didn't use a myriad of other much-easier-to-do methodf to check if any of the stylized-as-not-a-checkbox checkboxes is up to the imagination of the reader.

DogsB

@HardwareGeek said in The Official Status Thread:

@DogsB said in The Official Status Thread:

Googling isn’t much better. I ended up reading the doc.

Googling usually takes me to docs.python.org, so .

With that kind of work ethic I could replace an entire team with just you.

dkf

@DogsB said in The Official Status Thread:

@HardwareGeek said in The Official Status Thread:

@DogsB said in The Official Status Thread:

Googling isn’t much better. I ended up reading the doc.

Googling usually takes me to docs.python.org, so .

With that kind of work ethic I could replace an entire team with just you.

Or a small shell script that calls grep...

Zerosquare

But unlike , that shell script won't correct your grammar.

topspin

@Zerosquare said in The Official Status Thread:

But unlike , that shell script won't correct your grammar.

We need GrepGPT for that!
Quick, someone give me a few billion USD!

HardwareGeek

@Zenith said in The Official Status Thread:

MailChimp employees have no idea what they're doing.

Unsurprising. Chimps are intelligent but usually have little knowledge of computers — MailChimps likely less of either.

Zenith

@HardwareGeek Jesus Christ.

MailChimp gets back to me a third time. Now they're saying what I suspected all along. The store had an e-mail flagged as spam that put me on a temporary blacklist. 19 days, plus however much longer it would've gone, is "temporary?" So they say they take me off and....still no e-mails.

But wait, there's more. I decide to try the other Comcast e-mail I set up last time this happened. Except I can't login because of a security fuckup that forced password resets all over earlier in the year and need to reset my password. Fine...oops, you have to be on the wifi of the registered account holder. Not your phone out of town, not at your uncle's house even though he's also a Comcast customer, the house where the bill goes to.

Fine, call Mom and she resets my password for me. First logon asks for a recovery e-mail/phone so I put in my phone. Come to find out, that REMOVED THE PHONE FROM MY ORIGINAL ACCOUNT. Fucking Comcast, in current year, can't have the same phone as a recovery on two e-mail accounts.

On what planet does that limitation make any sense?

Zenith

@Zenith I tried the Comcast online chat just because I hate myself so much. They have no idea and are punting to "have the account owner call us." Account owners are my retired parents, neither of whom are computer people. As I recall, I think I played this game last time and got nowhere.

On the plus side, a different Comcast forum moderator found my post from 2020 and linked it. So I may be able to ask that guy WTF is going on.

HardwareGeek

@Zenith said in The Official Status Thread:

I may be able to ask that guy WTF is going on.

Of course you can. Whether you get a useful answer is another matter entirely.

DogsB

status

Got to inbox zero yesterday and it's still empty…

Arantor

@DogsB maybe you were fired and nobody told you yet.

DogsB

@Arantor said in The Official Status Thread:

@DogsB maybe you were fired and nobody told you yet.

I haven’t done anything recently to deserve that kind of good fortune.