WTF Bites
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
@Tsaukpaetra surely that produces a different result if it is solutionate rather than solutionized? What about solutionite, solutionide?
I presume it relates to the amount of hot air in discussion?
Invoking the solutionate resolves an instance of solutionerator which compiles a collection of solutionite to perform the solutionizing function, after which the solutionate returns a solventation package which can be used in conjuction with solutionide to decouple the solutionite components into a partial solution.
@Arantor look at what you have brought down upon us. Are you proud?
Inciting a little anarchy? Always.
I would ask if you have any shame but we all left that at the door years ago.
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The Microsoft Office team spent so much time and "engineering" on having you sign into your MS Account everytime you press a key or move the mouse, and yet in $CURRENT_YEAR their spell-checker can't even recognize word boundaries correctly.
HINT: The words are spelled correctly if you read all the letters, you bunch of hyper-active 5 year old clowns.
What I think happened here is that it hyphenated the words at the end of the line, then when I edited the paragraph so the position of the words changed, the hyphens either turned into zero-width spaces or optional hyphens and Word is too stupid to deal with it the consequences of its own actions.
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@topspin I regularly see the spell checker in Mac Outlook underline entire correctly-spelled words. Sometimes it'll eventually figure it out, other times not so much.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
@Tsaukpaetra surely that produces a different result if it is solutionate rather than solutionized? What about solutionite, solutionide?
I presume it relates to the amount of hot air in discussion?
Invoking the solutionate resolves an instance of solutionerator which compiles a collection of solutionite to perform the solutionizing function, after which the solutionate returns a solventation package which can be used in conjuction with solutionide to decouple the solutionite components into a partial solution.
@Arantor look at what you have brought down upon us. Are you proud?
Inciting a little anarchy? Always.
I would ask if you have any shame but we all left that at the door years ago.
I work with PHP, WordPress and don’t hate my life.
Whatever shame I had left me long ago.
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I work with PHP, WordPress and don’t hate my life.
Ah, the great Egyptian river.
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@topspin
spellchecker probably gets confused by all the long words
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spellchecker probably gets confused by all the long words
I think I just realised the real, main cause of Engelse ziekte … People see a correctly spelled word like this:
so they get rid of the red wavy line by changing the meaning of what they’ve written:
Both translate to English as “red wine glasses” but the first means “glasses for red wine” while the second means “wine glasses that are red in colour”.(IRL it’s probably both the influence of English on Dutch, and the above, of course.)
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found your problem! besides the usage of red glasware
Red glassware is however quite luxurious, as properly made (the color mixed in with the glass) is more expensive than other glass as red is a more difficult color to color glass in.
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@topspin
spellchecker probably gets confused by all the long wordsMeh, I've seen Word have the same problem in English.
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@Watson
But that's English ... the language that is confused by itself.
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Word is too stupid to deal with it the consequences of its own actions.
Word has only been around for 40 years. They'll get it right eventually.
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@Watson
But that's English ... the language that is confused by itself.English ... a collection of all the worst parts of other languages.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF Bites:
Word is too stupid to deal with it the consequences of its own actions.
Word has only been around for 40 years. They'll get it right eventually.
Word was always a spook. I remember the '95 Polish version insisted on correcting "wsi" (genitive from "wieś" = village or countryside) to "WSI" (Wojskowe Służby Informacyjne, at the time the name of Polish military intelligence)
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@topspin I've gotten to the point where any interaction with a MS Office product just increases my hate for them a bit. I still barely tolerate Powerpoint, but Word and Excel are just always fucking obnoxious.
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Composer, go home you fucking cretin.
So, I’m on a project using Composer for dependency management, so far so normal.
And for reasons that are cromulent, this project has a set of dependencies that are in private GitHub repos.
The dependencies are all properly declared in the Composer manifest, all using git@github.com:org/repo.git - SSH syntax.
Now by default Composer asks me for a personal access token to GitHub. Because it’s not smart enough to try authenticating with SSH keys.
I have to explicitly kick it into non-interactive mode for it to even try the keys as far as I can tell.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF Bites:
Word is too stupid to deal with it the consequences of its own actions.
Word has only been around for 40 years. They'll get it right eventually.
Should've stuck with wordperfect.
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@PleegWat WordPerfect is still a thing but I’m not paying the amount of money they want to see how much of its former glory it has retained.
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@topspin I've gotten to the point where any interaction with a MS Office product just increases my hate for them a bit. I still barely tolerate Powerpoint, but Word and Excel are just always fucking obnoxious.
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@Carnage To give you some context, I'm the one giving the boring and obnoxious talks, and not in the audience that desperately claws to the last shred of consciousness, hoping that they won't start snoring loudly when they lose that battle.
Powerpoint is a reasonable match for making boring and obnoxious talks.
For talks that need to be interesting and engaging, I use something else. Takes a lot more effort, though, so it's best to avoid having to give those.
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@Carnage To give you some context, I'm the one giving the boring and obnoxious talks, and not in the audience that desperately claws to the last shred of consciousness, hoping that they won't start snoring loudly when they lose that battle.
Powerpoint is a reasonable match for making boring and obnoxious talks.
For talks that need to be interesting and engaging, I use something else. Takes a lot more effort, though, so it's best to avoid having to give those.
I've been doing talks, and I hate PPT with a passion.
And I've got some old (like 2 decades or more) training in how to do all the wrong things. It's turing complete ffs.
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@Carnage To give you some context, I'm the one giving the boring and obnoxious talks, and not in the audience that desperately claws to the last shred of consciousness, hoping that they won't start snoring loudly when they lose that battle.
Powerpoint is a reasonable match for making boring and obnoxious talks.
For talks that need to be interesting and engaging, I use something else. Takes a lot more effort, though, so it's best to avoid having to give those.
I've been doing talks, and I hate PPT with a passion.
And I've got some old (like 2 decades or more) training in how to do all the wrong things. It's turing complete ffs.TIL people give talks with PowerPoint. I thought all the hipsters would have forced some other web Shit in.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
@Carnage To give you some context, I'm the one giving the boring and obnoxious talks, and not in the audience that desperately claws to the last shred of consciousness, hoping that they won't start snoring loudly when they lose that battle.
Powerpoint is a reasonable match for making boring and obnoxious talks.
For talks that need to be interesting and engaging, I use something else. Takes a lot more effort, though, so it's best to avoid having to give those.
I've been doing talks, and I hate PPT with a passion.
And I've got some old (like 2 decades or more) training in how to do all the wrong things. It's turing complete ffs.TIL people give talks with PowerPoint. I thought all the hipsters would have forced some other web Shit in.
I actually did a presentation created in a gaming engine once. I honestly liked it better than ppt...
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
@Carnage To give you some context, I'm the one giving the boring and obnoxious talks, and not in the audience that desperately claws to the last shred of consciousness, hoping that they won't start snoring loudly when they lose that battle.
Powerpoint is a reasonable match for making boring and obnoxious talks.
For talks that need to be interesting and engaging, I use something else. Takes a lot more effort, though, so it's best to avoid having to give those.
I've been doing talks, and I hate PPT with a passion.
And I've got some old (like 2 decades or more) training in how to do all the wrong things. It's turing complete ffs.TIL people give talks with PowerPoint. I thought all the hipsters would have forced some other web Shit in.
I actually did a presentation created in a gaming engine once. I honestly liked it better than ppt...
Nonlinear video editor is where it's at, baby!
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@Carnage To give you some context, I'm the one giving the boring and obnoxious talks, and not in the audience that desperately claws to the last shred of consciousness, hoping that they won't start snoring loudly when they lose that battle.
Powerpoint is a reasonable match for making boring and obnoxious talks.
For talks that need to be interesting and engaging, I use something else. Takes a lot more effort, though, so it's best to avoid having to give those.
I've been doing talks, and I hate PPT with a passion.
And I've got some old (like 2 decades or more) training in how to do all the wrong things. It's turing complete ffs.Could be worse. Could be Apple's office suite. Which has the distinction of being all of
- less capable in big obvious ways
- more annoying to actually use (actively user hostile as soon as you want to depart from defaults)
- even more incompatible with everyone else
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@Benjamin-Hall said in WTF Bites:
@Carnage To give you some context, I'm the one giving the boring and obnoxious talks, and not in the audience that desperately claws to the last shred of consciousness, hoping that they won't start snoring loudly when they lose that battle.
Powerpoint is a reasonable match for making boring and obnoxious talks.
For talks that need to be interesting and engaging, I use something else. Takes a lot more effort, though, so it's best to avoid having to give those.
I've been doing talks, and I hate PPT with a passion.
And I've got some old (like 2 decades or more) training in how to do all the wrong things. It's turing complete ffs.Could be worse. Could be Apple's office suite. Which has the distinction of being all of
- less capable in big obvious ways
- more annoying to actually use (actively user hostile as soon as you want to depart from defaults)
- even more incompatible with everyone else
So the usual apple user experience?
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I've been doing talks, and I hate PPT with a passion.
Yeah, I mean barely tolerating doesn't mean I can't hate it on the side.
The main reasons why I tolerate it are that there's a lot of existing stuff already (either from talks that I had to give previously or from colleagues who have had similar presentations). For the
better orworse, ppt has the role of an interchange format.
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I actually did a presentation created in a gaming engine once. I honestly liked it better than ppt...
For some higher-key presentations, I occasionally use my own software. I'd never want to have anybody else having to use it (I'm not that evil), but for my stuff ... it does what I want and if it doesn't then it will in a few hours.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
I thought all the hipsters would have forced some other web Shit in.
They have, but they can't even get close to agreeing what that webshit should be so non-hipsters just ignore them.
FWIW, I mostly just use Google Slides these days. They're cut down a lot from what PPT does, but they include almost all of the actual features I care about. They're also definitely nicer than Apple's stuff, and nicer than making a PDF of the slides too.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in WTF Bites:
as soon as you want to depart from defaults
Apple gives you their flavour of perfection by default. If that's not to your taste, don't buy apple.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in WTF Bites:
(actively user hostile as soon as you want to depart from defaults)
That pretty much describes everything Apple does.
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My lot have settled on using Loom for this sort of thing, as a video editor meets presentation tool, and then some slide deck tool (they’re all awful) in the background for static stuff, but that also lets them do more interactive stuff when it counts.
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Some days I feel that PowerPoint isn’t even that bad. I mean, I hate every minute of having to use it, but that’s because of having to make a presentation in the first place. So even if PowerPoint didn’t suck, it’d still be annoying. And sometimes its features aren’t even that bad.
And then I remember that they are, and I’ve just gotten used to it. Unlike Word, you can’t even get it to correctly set the language of the document. Like, I think there’s some language option in the settings, but I edit documents that can be in either German or English, so a global setting is useless. And whenever you change the proof-reading language of a slide, the next one you create is right back to the default.
The closest thing to working is going to outline view and select-all there, then change the selected text. That at least finds most text (not necessarily all), but doesn’t help once you create more.
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@topspin Toby Faire, it’s not LO Impress.
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@PleegWat WordPerfect is still a thing but I’m not paying the amount of money they want to see how much of its former glory it has retained.
Guess. (Hint: it's owned by Corel after going through the hands of Novell)
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@LaoC the transition to Windows hurt a bit but on the whole the transition initially from Novell to Corel wasn’t awful.
Trouble is they’ve had a lot of years to really fuck it up.
But you know what they have that Word doesn’t any more (as far as I can tell)? Reveal Codes, for when you have to unfuck that one document.
Edit: it also comes by default as a buy-once-and-done model.
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My lot have settled on using Loom for this sort of thing
A presentation with musical notes instead of words is certainly something you don't
seehear every day.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in WTF Bites:
Could be worse. Could be Apple's office suite. Which has the distinction of being all of
- less capable in big obvious ways
- more annoying to actually use (actively user hostile as soon as you want to depart from defaults)
- even more incompatible with everyone else
IME, most of these are only issues depending on what you want to use it for. I happily use Pages and Numbers because they’re a lot more user-friendly than MS office, let alone LibreOffice etc. I rarely have a need to exchange documents with other people, and when I do it’s quick and simple enough to export to something they can read. I also don’t need the vast majority of functionality that MS Office provides — I just need a word processor that lets me write text with decent styling etc. without getting in my way (which is where Word fails me every time when I am forced to use it).
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@topspin It has a lot of the annoying "smert" features that Word et al. have, but at least it kinda lets you reset things with each slide.
Also, most slides only have some bullet points, so it doesn't suffer as much as Word from looking terrible when it comes to layouting/rendering text.
Unlike Word and Excel, people abuse it less for shit it does really badly, like forms that you're supposed to fill in. I'm not sure which I dislike more - the barely-working excel macro sh{i,ee}t or the dumb word form made by some mouthbreathing table lover.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in WTF Bites:
Could be worse. Could be Apple's office suite. Which has the distinction of being all of
- less capable in big obvious ways
- more annoying to actually use (actively user hostile as soon as you want to depart from defaults)
- even more incompatible with everyone else
IME, most of these are only issues depending on what you want to use it for. I happily use Pages and Numbers because they’re a lot more user-friendly than MS office, let alone LibreOffice etc. I rarely have a need to exchange documents with other people, and when I do it’s quick and simple enough to export to something they can read. I also don’t need the vast majority of functionality that MS Office provides — I just need a word processor that lets me write text with decent styling etc. without getting in my way (which is where Word fails me every time when I am forced to use it).
Both pages and numbers are so deeply hostile in so many ways it's not even remotely amusing. I only use them on my work machine because I don't have a company Office subscription other than the online 365 and screw that. Thankfully I don't have to use them much now. But when I was teaching, they wanted to switch to those exclusively (to avoid paying Office taxes) and there was a near revolt. Because as soon as you try to format anything other than a basic document using preset styles, everything breaks. And importing word docs (ie the last umpteen years of tests, quizzes, homework, etc) makes everyone extremely sad.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in WTF Bites:
to avoid paying Office taxes
Avoiding paying the MS tax by paying the Apple tax instead. Really smart!
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@Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:
@Benjamin-Hall said in WTF Bites:
to avoid paying Office taxes
Avoiding paying the MS tax by paying the Apple tax instead. Really smart!
It's a lot more, so it must be better, right?
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@Benjamin-Hall Pages and Numbers can absolutely die in every single fire that exists in the world.
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@PleegWat WordPerfect is still a thing but I’m not paying the amount of money they want to see how much of its former glory it has retained.
Guess. (Hint: it's owned by Corel after going through the hands of Novell)
I remember that, from back in the days when I briefly used Word Perfect. Novell bought WP for $850 Million and a couple of years later sold it to Corel for a little over $100 Million. Pure Business Genius.
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@Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:
@Benjamin-Hall said in WTF Bites:
to avoid paying Office taxes
Avoiding paying the MS tax by paying the Apple tax instead. Really smart!
They'd already drunk that koolaid...they were a pure Apple school, including 1:1 ipads. Paid for by the families, of course, since it was a private school.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in WTF Bites:
as soon as you try to format anything [in Pages or Numbers] other than a basic document using preset styles, everything breaks.
Sorry, but I think
is you here. Both those programs work perfectly fine if you tinker with existing styles, layouts, whatever or make them entirely from scratch.The only things in this that I really miss in Pages, are being able to delete multiple styles in one go, and style inheritance — having to redefine multiple, related styles separately is an unnecessary nuisance.
And importing word docs (ie the last umpteen years of tests, quizzes, homework, etc) makes everyone extremely sad.
True, more complex files than just text with formatting tend to be imported poorly. This is only an issue if you have to do that a lot, though — which I don’t.
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@Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:
@Benjamin-Hall said in WTF Bites:
to avoid paying Office taxes
Avoiding paying the MS tax by paying the Apple tax instead. Really smart!
If you’re on Macs and iPads anyway, then using MS Office is an additional expenditure, whereas using Pages, Numbers and Keynote is not.
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found your problem! besides the usage of red glasware
Red glassware is however quite luxurious, as properly made (the color mixed in with the glass) is more expensive than other glass as red is a more difficult color to color glass in.
… that's because the ingredient is gold.
There was a fairly tale about it. An apprentice glassmaker's girl has left him, so in anger he threw the wedding rings he already bought into the melting pan, and was surprised to get a deep ruby red glass out of it. But the master of the shop wanted to take the credit when it was presented to the lord, and they argued who actually made it. So the lord set up a test. Each of them should name 10 ingredients they need and reproduce the glass. Of course the master copied the apprentice's list, but because he was greedy, so he put the gold coin in his pocket and threw the other nine ingredients in the pan. And got a mess without a hint of red and was fired and the apprentice got promoted and well paid for his discovery.
Anyway, the bit about gold being the ingredient that colors glass deep ruby red is real.
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Now by default Composer asks me for a personal access token to GitHub.
Warum, kurwa‽ Composer shouldn't even know the difference between github and gitlab and bitbucket and gitea and any other plain old git server, just ask git to fetch the thing (and the keys work just fine in plain old git).
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
TIL people give talks with PowerPoint. I thought all the hipsters would have forced some other web Shit in.
It's good enough for slapping some shit together, especially when the only thing you might get scolded for is not using the proper corporate template.
Some time ago when I did something that deserved a bit more care, I used pandoc with IIRC reveal.js backend and a mix of draw.io and evolus pencil for making the pictures.
