WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else
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@Atazhaia said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Also, because of Notepad's new auto-open files feature,
Thanks for reminding me to change defaults. That is the stupidest feature. It even re-opens "files" that you where just using as a copy/paste buffer. "Do you want to save this?" - fuck off.
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@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
This mechanism can cause significant performance issues regardless of your storage type or its speed.
IOW, on par with the rest of Windows
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@dcon I didn't realise there was a setting for it, but I actually like that feature.
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I'm dual-booting Windows 10 / 11 but I find myself going to Windows 11 less and less. It has very little to offer and just isn't worth the aggravation.
I didn't like Windows 10 when it first came out but Microsoft made some improvements and eventually it became (sort of) usable. I was hoping that the same would happen with Win11, but Microsoft is going in the opposite direction, especially with this ads-in-the-Start-Menu bullshit.
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Wtf is svchost doing here? Since several minutes, it writes a log file (?) at 20 MB/s - full speed of my cloudy disk!
Zhe file isC:\windows\System32\winevt\Logs\Microsoft-Windows-Store%4Operational.evtx
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Spying on you"telemetry"
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Windows 11 is likely the worst operating system I've used (upto now...).
True I made a bad choice when I selected aHDD
instead of anSSD
for the OS disk at the time of cretion of this VM. But I do not understand why tf that cannot be changed later on. A virtual machine is virtual, so also the virtual disk is just a file which gets hosted somewhere. So is so hard to transfer it to a SSD? Or are these actually different base images?
Performance has always been an issue with that machine. Mostly disk, but sometimes - and that's the reason why I am currently rebooting that thing - CPU. System services eat up almost all of CPU currently. And now try to debug a test in Visual Studio which takes far too many resources anyway...
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Theyâre too busy tracking and recording what youâre doing to let you do anything anyway.
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@BernieTheBernie said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Wtf is svchost doing here?
Google-fu suggests a Store app is trying to update itself and is failing very fast and repeatedly.
Bug Report: Logger Infinitely Looped writing to Microsoft Store Log
Recommend rebooting to see if that helps like it did this poor luser.
If that doesn't help, nuke and pave, baby!
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@Zerosquare said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Spying on you"telemetry"The best part is that, in this case apparently, you're paying through the nose for this spying in Azure bills.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Recommend rebooting to see if that helps
That's what I eventually did, and it helped.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Recommend rebooting to see if that helps like it did this poor luser.
Reboot the luser or the PC?
FileUnder:
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Good $localGoverningBody, it's taken an order of magnitude to "reset" Windows than it would to just fucking wipe the drive and install clean.
What the hell?
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@BernieTheBernie said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Windows 11 is likely the worst operating system I've used (upto now...).
Apparently you never met Windows 8.
As bad as Windows 11 is, it is still usable if you spend some time unfucking all the things that Microsoft has fucked.
Windows 8 was just terrible and unusable.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Apparently you never met Windows 8.
Fortunately, no. If there is nothing else good about 10/11, it is that I need never touch 8.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@BernieTheBernie said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Windows 11 is likely the worst operating system I've used (upto now...).
Apparently you never met Windows 8.
As bad as Windows 11 is, it is still usable if you spend some time unfucking all the things that Microsoft has fucked.
Windows 8 was just terrible and unusable.
8 was terrible, 8.1 mostly fixed it. ME and Vista were still worse though.
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@loopback0 Vista was unfinished but usable (if you didnât have hardware that was certified for Vista but really shouldnât have been). ME was terrible. Itâs like they took 98 with all its faults and bugs, then added an RNG that triggered a blue screen every 7 minutes on average.
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@topspin said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
ME was terrible
That's why ME stand for Mistake Edition
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Interestingly I think 8/8.1 would have been better received with the full screen launcher type stuff if they'd transitioned from 7 to 10 to 8 with a clear and present roadmap of bringing together desktop and smaller form factors - the shitshow that was 8's principle downfall was the trying to ape Apple's ongoing unification plans (see MacOS Snow Leopard and Lion, and Launchpad/Mission Control as a gradual step towards unifying the MacOS and iOS launchers from which Windows 8 clearly took some cues)
The problem is that they didn't gradually introduce the changes they were hoping to in a boiling frog way but made the entire jump. (Of course, in the interim, Apple has apparently given up on anything resembling that because they have no actual trajectory in a post-Jobs world)
But if you look at everything from 8 onwards, it was clear they're trying to out-Apple Apple, but with no understanding of why Apple did anything or why any of it worked for Apple.
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As a result@topspin said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Vista was unfinished but usable
ME was terrible. Itâs like they took 98 with all its faults and bugs, then added an RNG that triggered a blue screen every 7 minutes on average.
From Windows 3.0 to the present, ME is the only version that I never used. Somehow I skipped over it.
The biggest problem with Vista was it had some significant differences from previous Windows versions and a lot of companies dragged their feet releasing new Vista-compatible versions of their programs.
For example, the Anti-Virus program I was using at the time wouldn't run on Vista and the vendor was still promising a new Vista-compatible version ... "soon" ... 6 months after Vista's general release. I finally just changed to a different AV program. Some of Vista's bad reputation was from things that weren't really Microsoft's fault.
But Microsoft has made up for it since then, and they have done lots of things that ARE their fault.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
lot of companies dragged their feet releasing new Vista-compatible versions of their programs.
Also the driver ABI changed significantly and manufacturers had to suddenly write less shit drivers, and the lack of good drivers at first plus Vista being sold on underpowered gear basically doomed it.
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@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
they have no actual trajectory
is an actual trajectory. It may not be the trajectory they want, but it is a trajectory.
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@Zerosquare that mostly shows how the whole market is extremely overvalued. (It climbed from 1T to 3T in a time nothing noteworthy was released.)
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@topspin same for Microsoft, Amazon etc.
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@Arantor QED
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@topspin said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Zerosquare that mostly shows how the whole market is extremely overvalued. (It climbed from 1T to 3T in a time nothing noteworthy was released.)
The era of free money had side effects predicted by Econ 101 classes. News at 11.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Apparently you never met Windows 8.
How were you able to detect that so quickly?
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
From Windows 3.0 to the present, ME is the only version that I never used. Somehow I skipped over it.
I started with 2, but skipped 3.11, NT 3.*, Bob, ME and Vista. We didn't use 3.11 because there wasn't an incentive to do so; networking was via third-party stacks back then.
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If you don't activate Windows 11, Edge will nudge you to use a different browser.
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@BernieTheBernie said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
locks you out of some settings in the Edge browser
That's fine with me, since I don't want to use it in the first place.
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@BernieTheBernie said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
locks you out of some settings in the Edge browser
That's fine with me, since I don't want to use it in the first place.
I have to. Can't access my paystubs otherwise since our work web site doesn't work in Firefox.
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@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
web site doesn't work in Firefox.
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@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@HardwareGeek said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@BernieTheBernie said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
locks you out of some settings in the Edge browser
That's fine with me, since I don't want to use it in the first place.
I have to. Can't access my paystubs otherwise since our work web site doesn't work in Firefox.
at this point..... that has to be corporate malice deliberately breaking the site for FF.......
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
web site doesn't work in Firefox.
After logging in (2FA/etc), it presents another (different) login screen - which doesn't do anything - but F5 (refresh) and the web site appears properly. In FF, it gets into an infinite loop and you can never get past the 2nd login screen (which does nothing)
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@BernieTheBernie said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
... locks you out of some settings in the Edge browser if Windows is not activated.
LOL. The joke's on you, Microsoft. I removed Edge.
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@accalia said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@HardwareGeek said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@BernieTheBernie said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
locks you out of some settings in the Edge browser
That's fine with me, since I don't want to use it in the first place.
I have to. Can't access my paystubs otherwise since our work web site doesn't work in Firefox.
at this point..... that has to be corporate malice deliberately breaking the site for FF.......
Nah, itâs a symptom of âwe didnât test in anything other than latest Chrome, sucks to be you for not keeping upâ.
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@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Nah, itâs a symptom of âwe didnât test in anything other than latest Chrome, sucks to be you for not keeping upâ.
PG&E too.
The following browsers are below our threshold for support. Some functionality may still work.
Mozilla Firefox
Microsoft Internet Explorer
Brave
Opera
UC Browser
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@dcon is Vivaldi above their threshold, or is it too small to even make the âwe care so little about it, we donât even care to tell you that we donât care about itâ cut?
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@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
After logging in (2FA/etc), it presents another (different) login screen - which doesn't do anything - but F5 (refresh) and the web site appears properly.
We stand corrected vis-a-vis being the site not working in FF.
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@dcon quoted in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
The following browsers are below our threshold for support.
"Below our threshold for support" seems like a nice alternate way of saying "swept under the carpet".
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@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Nah, itâs a symptom of âwe didnât test in anything other than latest Chrome, sucks to be you for not keeping upâ.
PG&E too.
The following browsers are below our threshold for support. Some functionality may still work.
Mozilla Firefox
Microsoft Internet Explorer
Brave
Opera
UC BrowserInternet Explorer is the one one on that list that makes sense. I don't know what UC Browser is.
Brave and Opera are Chrome-ish. I use Brave when I encounter a retarded website that only works properly with Chrome.
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@Gern_Blaanston UC Browser is a Chromelike built by a subsidiary of the Alibaba group and is pretty popular in parts of Asia, especially India and Indonesia.
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@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@dcon is Vivaldi above their threshold, or is it too small to even make the âwe care so little about it, we donât even care to tell you that we donât care about itâ cut?
By default Vivaldi lies as much as possible to make it look like Chrome so it won't get sorted out by websites that do that sort of thing. They gave up on being their own browser to most websites at the end of 2019. They probably never see it in their access logs.
I'd still assume it's below their "below their threshold for support", though.
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@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Vivaldi lies as much as possible to make it look like Chrome
Is it really âlyingâ though?
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@kazitor said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Vivaldi lies as much as possible to make it look like Chrome
Is it really âlyingâ though?
It's just as Chromium as any other Chromium browser, but some websites still don't treat Chromium browsers the same as they do Chrome if they see anything extra in the User-Agent or other identifiers.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@BernieTheBernie said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
... locks you out of some settings in the Edge browser if Windows is not activated.
LOL. The joke's on you, Microsoft. I removed Edge.
Jokes on Microsoft indeed. i removed WINDOWS
unrelatedly, now there's quite the draft in here.....
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@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@dcon is Vivaldi above their threshold, or is it too small to even make the âwe care so little about it, we donât even care to tell you that we donât care about itâ cut?
Too small.