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@Arantor said in The Official Status Thread:
@Arantor said in The Official Status Thread:
Status: had a Twitter discussion where someone pulled a "By reducing the entire argument to that one dimension you’ve quickly convinced me that I can safely disregard your opinion on this topic"
Um, my guy, firstly, it's Twitter, it's not like I have the room to expound unless you really really want a fucking awful subpar experience of being on a forum done badly. Secondly, you're arguing that serverless is the bestest deployment method and you assume that just because I give you some examples from my experience that worked out better in my favour, that I'm trashing your beloved.
Status: my god the butthurt. The amount of tech bros that evangelise serverless as the one true deployment method being told it isn’t… ouch.
Remember kids, if you reduce it just to how much less it costs to run regular servers than serverless for the loads at question, you’re entirely wrong and that opinion can be safely disregarded.
By serverless I suppose they mean lambda. Probably addressed later but its not actually a terrible idea. I’ve dabbled a bit but I can’t see anything non-trival that won’t become a rude goldberg machine.
A lot of sites could probably exist cheaper on serverless... if time isn’t worth anything.
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@DogsB said in The Official Status Thread:
I’ve dabbled a bit but I can’t see anything non-trival that won’t become a rude goldberg machine.
A side project I'm part of wants to run Blender In The Cloud as a serverless "function".
I told him A) It needs to run start to finish without any input at all beyond maybe a set of parameters and B) it needs to work as if you're calling it for the first time ever on a blank-slate minimal installation of Ubuntu (because afaik that's literally what is happening) even if you're running it multiple times, and C) better not care if it takes forever to run, doesn't run at all, or gets interrupted.
They still want to try it.
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@error said in The Official Status Thread:
It apparently takes less than a week to reverse 3 months of strict dieting and exercise.
Proof that you shouldn't even have bothered in the first place.
@dcon said in The Official Status Thread:
Can confirm. (Especially when that week is a vacation in Hawaii
It's the ukulele. That thing is full of calories:
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@Zerosquare said in The Official Status Thread:
@error said in The Official Status Thread:
It apparently takes less than a week to reverse 3 months of strict dieting and exercise.
Proof that you shouldn't even have bothered in the first place.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
I kinda wish I could eat out almost every night....
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@Zecc said in The Official Status Thread:
@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
I kinda wish I could eat out almost every night....
Wait, is that where other horneys are? Sounds like a potential win...
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@DogsB well, Lambda plus friends like RDS and S3. And if you get next to zero traffic, sure, but viable regular hosting exists and can run things pretty well for cheap.
As in, running basically the business off a $20/month plan for a managed VPS. The reality is you can run most startups juuuuuuuuuuuuust fine without getting into the joys of serverless, and for not crazy amounts of money depending on what you’re doing.
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@dcon said in The Official Status Thread:
@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
@dcon said in The Official Status Thread:
@error said in The Official Status Thread:
It apparently takes less than a week to reverse 3 months of strict dieting and exercise.
Can confirm. (Especially when that week is a vacation in Hawaii and we ate out almost every night)
I kinda wish I could eat out almost every night....
We kept going to nice restaurants, so it got expensive! (Sadly, several of those restaurants no longer exist because they were in Lahaina.)
Remember who you're replying to. I don't think that's the kind of eating out he's referring to.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
@DogsB said in The Official Status Thread:
I’ve dabbled a bit but I can’t see anything non-trival that won’t become a rude goldberg machine.
A side project I'm part of wants to run Blender In The Cloud as a serverless "function".
I told him A) It needs to run start to finish without any input at all beyond maybe a set of parameters and B) it needs to work as if you're calling it for the first time ever on a blank-slate minimal installation of Ubuntu (because afaik that's literally what is happening) even if you're running it multiple times, and C) better not care if it takes forever to run, doesn't run at all, or gets interrupted.
They still want to try it.
Um, just about everything in Blender can be scripted in Python, but that's not really the way it's designed to work. The scripting is really geared toward plugins triggered by button clicks, not fully headless automation.
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@HardwareGeek said in The Official Status Thread:
@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
@DogsB said in The Official Status Thread:
I’ve dabbled a bit but I can’t see anything non-trival that won’t become a rude goldberg machine.
A side project I'm part of wants to run Blender In The Cloud as a serverless "function".
I told him A) It needs to run start to finish without any input at all beyond maybe a set of parameters and B) it needs to work as if you're calling it for the first time ever on a blank-slate minimal installation of Ubuntu (because afaik that's literally what is happening) even if you're running it multiple times, and C) better not care if it takes forever to run, doesn't run at all, or gets interrupted.
They still want to try it.
Um, just about everything in Blender can be scripted in Python, but that's not really the way it's designed to work. The scripting is really geared toward plugins triggered by button clicks, not fully headless automation.
Well considering it's a headless server with no TTY.... hard to have a button to click.
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@dcon said in The Official Status Thread:
@error said in The Official Status Thread:
It apparently takes less than a week to reverse 3 months of strict dieting and exercise.
Can confirm. (Especially when that week is a vacation in Hawaii and we ate out almost every night)
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@error I am in this post, and I do not like it.
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Status: had trouble parsing a sentence because of the word "danger".
What the heck does "dang-er" mean?
This is post coffee. I blame English.
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@Zecc Danger? I hardly know 'er.
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Status: Tfw you lock your work PC and Windows shows you a picture of boobies on a beach.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
Well considering it's a headless server with no TTY.... hard to have a button to click.
Where there's a will, there's a way!
In this case, launch a headless X server and inject events into it. It's the sort of thing you need to do unit testing of GUI toolkits.
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@HardwareGeek said in The Official Status Thread:
@error I am in this post, and I do not like it.
Frog or Toad?
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@dkf Yes.
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@Arantor said in The Official Status Thread:
@DogsB well, Lambda plus friends like RDS and S3. And if you get next to zero traffic, sure, but viable regular hosting exists and can run things pretty well for cheap.
As in, running basically the business off a $20/month plan for a managed VPS. The reality is you can run most startups juuuuuuuuuuuuust fine without getting into the joys of serverless, and for not crazy amounts of money depending on what you’re doing.
I’ve never actually costed it but I wonder how costs would scale In lambda. Lambda seems cheap when noone is using it but with every page needing at least 7 rest calls thats got to add up fast.
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@DogsB said in The Official Status Thread:
@Arantor said in The Official Status Thread:
@DogsB well, Lambda plus friends like RDS and S3. And if you get next to zero traffic, sure, but viable regular hosting exists and can run things pretty well for cheap.
As in, running basically the business off a $20/month plan for a managed VPS. The reality is you can run most startups juuuuuuuuuuuuust fine without getting into the joys of serverless, and for not crazy amounts of money depending on what you’re doing.
I’ve never actually costed it but I wonder how costs would scale In lambda. Lambda seems cheap when noone is using it but with every page needing at least 7 rest calls thats got to add up fast.
The key to saving money with the cloud is to not look at your cloud bill, and to handwave and make noises about all the cost savings in staff time maintaining infrastructure.
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@izzion and then mock the people who aren’t using serverless as not being disruptive.
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@Arantor You can't be disruptive if you insist on having things work.
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So I need to do a thing. It is automated using a tool which can throw up all kind of arcane errors. The procedure is described in a confluence. And another confluence. And three FAQ pages, some of which are slightly out of date.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
@Zecc said in The Official Status Thread:
@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
I kinda wish I could eat out almost every night....
Wait, is that where other horneys are? Sounds like a potential win...
It's a solitary
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@dkf said in The Official Status Thread:
@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
Well considering it's a headless server with no TTY.... hard to have a button to click.
Where there's a will, there's a way!
In this case, launch a headless X server and inject events into it. It's the sort of thing you need to do unit testing of GUI toolkits.
I have no reason to not be paid even more than I'm not already...
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in The Official Status Thread:
@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
@Zecc said in The Official Status Thread:
@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
I kinda wish I could eat out almost every night....
Wait, is that where other horneys are? Sounds like a potential win...
It's a solitary
Always wanted to try that. Depending on the level I think it might be relaxing.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
testing whether my access lets me
I have effectively been duplicated off someone else, and I still don't have enough magic.
Well it's day 1 of the backfill. Let's see if anything serious comes up.
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@dkf said in The Official Status Thread:
@Arantor You can't be disruptive if you insist on having things work.
I guess I’m a filthy Luddite who… ends up paying less each month for… reduced “agility” and apparently that’s a bad thing?
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@PleegWat said in The Official Status Thread:
So I need to do a thing. It is automated using a tool which can throw up all kind of arcane errors. The procedure is described in a confluence. And another confluence. And three FAQ pages, some of which are slightly out of date.
In my world, you need all of those pages. And none of them are linked together.
edit: I forgot - and the one absolutely critical page is only known by the author. The rest of us have heard rumors of its existence.
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@dcon do we work at the same company?
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@PleegWat said in The Official Status Thread:
@dcon do we work at the same company?
We have over 155K employees...
But then boomzilla only works at one company.
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@dcon I think we're also in that range.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
Well it's day 1 of the backfill. Let's see if anything serious comes up.
Status: Not yet.
Got someone from on higher up to walk me through checking accesses. Naturally there is no simple list of things to request, so it was effectively "compare this guy's access to yours".
Found a mystery role!
And it looks like it was one of the things actually needed! Unbelievable!
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@Tsaukpaetra large corporate, confirmed.
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Status: Not working until Tuesday! And full of pizza and strawberries and wine. Life isn't all bad right now...
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@dkf said in The Official Status Thread:
Status: Not working until Tuesday! And full of pizza and strawberries and wine. Life isn't all bad right now...
I first read that as a strawberry pizza. I'm torn between and
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@dcon It is a sequential thing. Except the wine, which was in parallel.
(pizza; strawberries) || wine
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@dcon said in The Official Status Thread:
@dkf said in The Official Status Thread:
Status: Not working until Tuesday! And full of pizza and strawberries and wine. Life isn't all bad right now...
I first read that as a strawberry pizza. I'm torn between and
It's Ok if the rest of the toppings match. Dessert pizzas aren't terrible when done right.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
Dessert pizzas aren't terrible when done right.
That was the .
A regular baked pizza was not.
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@PleegWat said in The Official Status Thread:
@dcon do we work at the same company?
And as we just discovered, nope.
Just the usual fun of big companies!
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@dcon said in The Official Status Thread:
@PleegWat said in The Official Status Thread:
@dcon do we work at the same company?
And as we just discovered, nope.
For now....!
Just the usual fun of big companies!
It gets bugger!
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@dcon said in The Official Status Thread:
But then boomzilla only works
Grave accusations, you make.
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@dcon said in The Official Status Thread:
I first read that as a strawberry pizza. I'm torn between and
I've eaten quite a few chocolate and strawberries pizzas.
Alas that restaurant starting losing quality and it doesn't even exist anymore.
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Status: being A/B tested!
Instead of just dying and not loading any new videos, there's an end to the page!
Edit: Yup, being tested. My CSS rules are making the page quite interesting now...
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Status: Fitbit is trying to improve their phone app design.
Chief complaints: They took out the battery indicator for your device. Like, not hid it somewhere, not moved it, just, gone. Also, in the decade since Dark Mode has been a thing, it's still not an option.
Clowns, wherever you go.
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Status: Now celebrating 12 continuous hours of Internet! (They came and ran a new fiber line today. The old one was apparently damaged by something that totally wasn't my well-meaning family members cramming a not-to-be-bent "wire" behind the siding.)
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Status: Ordered new oak table. It arrived with the wrong legs, which cannot be attached. Can anyone do anything right the first time without me hovering over their shoulder?
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@sebastian-galczynski How likely is it you don't already know the answer, given that you're here?
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@GOG Is that a rhetorical question?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
Chief complaints: They took out the battery indicator for your device.
Is that even possible for a normal äpp on Android? On my phone, the battery indicator only vanishes when I open the camera. With all other äpps, it stays displayed.