WTF Bites
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@HardwareGeek Not if that somebody else has the competence level of our IT services.
They try to install Windows Updates and next thing you know, for some reason, half of the local town is on fire, there's a chemical spill that's also radioactive somehow and Earth is about to be hit by a giant meteor that'll wipe out life as we know.
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@cvi sounds like a normal Patch Tuesday
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I seem to be gaining @Tsaukpaetra powers.
'I created a new VM, installed ubuntu, and ran
sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get dist-upgradeOnly to see it somehow crash gnome and land me in a tty where it seems permanently stuck. Rebooting doesn't resolve the issue, even after I fix the errors and dist-upgrade again.
Fuck it, it's a brand new VM, I'll nuke it from orbit and try again. ...
Exact same thing.
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I'm being still plagued by the "random download hang" failure on Github Actions. Everything else is going fine, but one step just failed to init its state correctly when retrieving the cached dependencies, with about 5MB left to go out of nearly 500. (Other parallel steps have no problems at all; the data's definitely there.) Fucking Azure sabotage.
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Only to see it somehow crash gnome and land me in a tty where it seems permanently stuck. Rebooting doesn't resolve the issue, even after I fix the errors and dist-upgrade again.
Welcome to Linux! First time here?
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gnome
I never understood why Ubuntu keeps Gnome their default desktop environment. It's the worst of the options, by rather large margin.
Also, why do you even need a desktop environment in a VM? If I want GUI applications there at all, I forward only the applications to my local desktop using either ssh X session tunelling or xpra (and VcXsrv if the local desktop is a Windows one—one day I might try abusing the X support in WSL2 instead).
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I never understood why Ubuntu keeps Gnome their default desktop environment. It's the worst of the options, by rather large margin.
Worse than Enlightenment?
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Ah. You're using spinning rust on dial-up?
I have pity. You can have one of mine, at least the cheap flash storage thinks it's an SSD.
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*grabs laptop that I haven't used in a while*
Might be good to run through Windows Updates to avoid problems later down the road, when there isn't a stable interweb connection.
- Run Windows Updates manually
Checking for updates...
- Restart machine
Restarting...
Windows Update is useless garbage and I stopped using it a long time ago. Just go to:
Type in your particular version of Windows in the search box. Save that URL as a bookmark for future use, and download the latest update.
One file to download. One reboot. Done.
Sure, it would be nice if Windows Update did all that automatically. But it doesn't. And Microsoft shows no intention of ever making Windows Update work properly.
- Run Windows Updates manually
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@Gern_Blaanston they’ve had over 20 years to un-fuck Windows update. They haven’t.
At this point the rationale for not fixing it is probably spacebar heating.
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@Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:
I never understood why Ubuntu keeps Gnome their default desktop environment. It's the worst of the options, by rather large margin.
Worse than Enlightenment?
Enlightenment is just a window manager, not a complete desktop environment (at least it does not have a task metapackage), so I don't count that.
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@HardwareGeek Not if that somebody else has the competence level of our IT services.
They try to install Windows Updates and next thing you know, for some reason, half of the local town is on fire, there's a chemical spill that's also radioactive somehow and Earth is about to be hit by a giant meteor that'll wipe out life as we know.
Is your IT services named @Tsaukpaetra?
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@HardwareGeek Not if that somebody else has the competence level of our IT services.
They try to install Windows Updates and next thing you know, for some reason, half of the local town is on fire, there's a chemical spill that's also radioactive somehow and Earth is about to be hit by a giant meteor that'll wipe out life as we know.
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@boomzilla said in WTF Bites:
What sorts of things are you searching for that is helped by this?
Reviews, product recommendations, DIY ideas and instructions, workarounds for bugs in popular software, etc. If you don't include "reddit", 99% of results are either sponsored, or content farms with the same copy-paste solutions for every problem.
I pretty much never end up on either link/content farms or reddit, and I still find what I want.
The only thing where I sometimes find useful stuff is for gaming issues. And even that is not the most common place I end up finding the solution to my problem.
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@boomzilla said in WTF Bites:
What sorts of things are you searching for that is helped by this?
Reviews, product recommendations, DIY ideas and instructions, workarounds for bugs in popular software, etc. If you don't include "reddit", 99% of results are either sponsored, or content farms with the same copy-paste solutions for every problem.
I pretty much never end up on either link/content farms or reddit, and I still find what I want.
The only thing where I sometimes find useful stuff is for gaming issues. And even that is not the most common place I end up finding the solution to my problem.The /r/ffxiv subreddit was absolutely malding over losing access to their incredible trove of
Y'shtola boobiesknowledge for an entire week.
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So I notice there is a FedEx 'sorry we missed you' card in my letterbox.
I've been home all day.
Now, it's entirely possible that I didn't hear the doorbell because it's a bit quiet (and it's an Amazon Ring doorbell from the previous occupants so at some point it'll just have to go I think, we inherited a bunch of shit 'smart electronics' from them)
But anyway, I have a card that says "we left your package at..." and a scrawl that conceivably could say 'call bk tomoz' which I sort of infer to mean 'call back tomorrow', but this wasn't ticked, merely written on.
Meanwhile they have ticked the 'manage your delivery' option for their app.
Their app is rated 1.7/5 on the Apple App Store. I don't think I've ever seen an app rated that low. So while I'm downloading it, I have a think as to what could be coming via FedEx.
There are a few things lately that have come via FedEx but all of those came with copious emails before, during and after to go 'this has left the sender', 'this is in our warehouse', 'we have received this', 'we're going to send it to you on xyz'.
The last of these was a Kickstarter thing I backed, I had the email chain, it originally said it was going to arrive today - but it arrived a couple of days ago, so I figured it couldn't be that. Especially as I even have the email saying 'it was received and signed for'.
But anyway I open the app. Fuck me I can see why it's 1.7/5 with all the BS things it puts in my face before I get to scanning the barcode.
But I scan the barcode on the 'sorry we missed you' and... of course it's the thing delivered two days ago, signed for etc.
So I am now very very curious a) if they're going to call back tomorrow, and b) if they do, what they could possibly be leaving me...
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of course it's the thing delivered two days ago
@HardwareGeek's influence here is ... odd.
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@Arantor Delivery distortion field?
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@PleegWat I mean, if they want to redeliver me a parcel I already opened 2 days ago, sure, go nuts?
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Maybe they want to take back the parcel they delivered to you?
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@Arantor They couldn't deliver it today, so they delivered it the day before yesterday instead.
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Meanwhile, my package that was originally supposed to be delivered next Monday, and which was changed to today, is now (purportedly) going to arrive tomorrow. The package I was expecting tomorrow is still supposed to arrive tomorrow, but instead of the 2-hour window in the afternoon (14:00–16:00), the UPS tracking page says by 19:00.
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More DDF: This evening we had pizza. It was orderd, according to my email at 19:58, and I remember thinking it came a bit late - I saw the oven clock on the way back from the front door and it said 20:42.
But of course, I literally (22:32) receive an SMS: the driver's just leaving the store across town with my pizza.
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But of course, I literally (22:32) receive an SMS
That sort of thing happens to me a lot. But that's just T-Mobile being T-Mobile.
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@HardwareGeek or rather T-Mobile being more like T-Debile
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:
But that's just T-Mobile being T-Mobile.
German engineering at its finest?
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of course, I literally (22:32) receive an SMS
Happens with O2 here also quite often: an SMS may take hours to arrive.
Extra fun when it is meant for 2FA... and when you click the "Resend SMS" button, the first SMS will arrive within seconds (but is now invalid), and the new SMS...
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@BernieTheBernie said in WTF Bites:
of course, I literally (22:32) receive an SMS
Happens with O2 here also quite often: an SMS may take hours to arrive.
Extra fun when it is meant for 2FA... and when you click the "Resend SMS" button, the first SMS will arrive within seconds (but is now invalid), and the new SMS...
Infuckingcredible considering how much they charge for SMS in Germany. If they had pulled off shit like this—either the prices or the "reliability"—in the Philippines or Indonesia even 20 years ago you'd have found mobile operator execs hung on the highest trees, never mind today.
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@BernieTheBernie said in WTF Bites:
of course, I literally (22:32) receive an SMS
Happens with O2 here also quite often: an SMS may take hours to arrive.
Extra fun when it is meant for 2FA... and when you click the "Resend SMS" button, the first SMS will arrive within seconds (but is now invalid), and the new SMS...
Infuckingcredible considering how much they charge for SMS in Germany. If they had pulled off shit like this—either the prices or the "reliability"—in the Philippines or Indonesia even 20 years ago you'd have found mobile operator execs hung on the highest trees, never mind today.
I had flat rate SMS in the late nineties. The rate for SMS everyehwere, she boggle sthe mind.
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@BernieTheBernie said in WTF Bites:
of course, I literally (22:32) receive an SMS
Happens with O2 here also quite often: an SMS may take hours to arrive.
Extra fun when it is meant for 2FA... and when you click the "Resend SMS" button, the first SMS will arrive within seconds (but is now invalid), and the new SMS...
Infuckingcredible considering how much they charge for SMS in Germany. If they had pulled off shit like this—either the prices or the "reliability"—in the Philippines or Indonesia even 20 years ago you'd have found mobile operator execs hung on the highest trees, never mind today.
Weird. I don’t pay for calls or SMS (sending, receiving is always free here and has always been) and they always arrive instantly, even though I have an el-cheapo prepaid plan.
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@BernieTheBernie said in WTF Bites:
of course, I literally (22:32) receive an SMS
Happens with O2 here also quite often: an SMS may take hours to arrive.
Extra fun when it is meant for 2FA... and when you click the "Resend SMS" button, the first SMS will arrive within seconds (but is now invalid), and the new SMS...
Infuckingcredible considering how much they charge for SMS in Germany. If they had pulled off shit like this—either the prices or the "reliability"—in the Philippines or Indonesia even 20 years ago you'd have found mobile operator execs hung on the highest trees, never mind today.
Weird. I don’t pay for calls or SMS (sending, receiving is always free here and has always been) and they always arrive instantly, even though I have an el-cheapo prepaid plan.
OK, it helps to remind yourself that there are people being milked for receiving SMS. What carrier are you using? I've tried O2 and Vodafone and O2 was unreliable and had shit coverage while Vodafone was OKish (you still get dead zones just outside of Munich, along major commuter routes, wtf) but makes me cry when I look at the prices.
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@BernieTheBernie said in WTF Bites:
of course, I literally (22:32) receive an SMS
Happens with O2 here also quite often: an SMS may take hours to arrive.
Extra fun when it is meant for 2FA... and when you click the "Resend SMS" button, the first SMS will arrive within seconds (but is now invalid), and the new SMS...
Infuckingcredible considering how much they charge for SMS in Germany. If they had pulled off shit like this—either the prices or the "reliability"—in the Philippines or Indonesia even 20 years ago you'd have found mobile operator execs hung on the highest trees, never mind today.
Weird. I don’t pay for calls or SMS (sending, receiving is always free here and has always been) and they always arrive instantly, even though I have an el-cheapo prepaid plan.
OK, it helps to remind yourself that there are people being milked for receiving SMS. What carrier are you using? I've tried O2 and Vodafone and O2 was unreliable and had shit coverage while Vodafone was OKish (you still get dead zones just outside of Munich, along major commuter routes, wtf) but makes me cry when I look at the prices.
I’m using a reseller based on O2’s network. Coverage is shit in general, but T-mobile still has the best, I think. “Commute routes” basically means outside cities, so they don’t really care about that, unfortunately.
But when you do have coverage, SMS come through immediately.I’m currently paying 9.99€ a month for unlimited calls/texts and 3GB of data. I could probably get a bunch more data for that price if I wanted to look for a new carrier / plan, but that’s a hassle and I basically don’t need it.
Ceterum censeo Vodafone esse delendam.
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@topspin I'm finally considering switching. Coverage on current carrier is so-so, both my office and home are a bit problematic. There's at least one coverage-less spot on the route home. And ... they put WTDWTF on their internet shitlist, so I would have to go through the process of "unlocking" the full internet with them anyway. (We're apparently on some internet-danger lists.)
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@Arantor They couldn't deliver it today, so they delivered it the day before yesterday instead.
Amazon Yesterday Shipping – 01:41
— The Bilderbergers
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they put WTDWTF on their internet shitlist
What does that mean? Internet censorship? Do you need a proxy server in order to connect to WTDWTF?
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@BernieTheBernie I think I'd need to somehow verify that I'm over 18. Which is dumb, and apparently the way they do it is that I fill in my credit card details on one of their pages and they use that to check.
The whole thing is dumb. It's not impossible to do, but I don't feel like it. Current provider's been progressively getting more shit. This was just one more reason.
Proxy would do it too. Not sure I CBA to set that up.
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@cvi I mean, that's how all the porn sites (which bothered) did it in the nineties, so it's got to be the right way to go.
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Police warn Android phone users over 999 call feature
Forces say update that lets button pushes trigger calls is bombarding operators with "silent" calls.
What the absolute bloody shit?
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@Applied-Mediocrity Found a similar article in a german newspaper. Here, it is 112 which gets automatically butt dialed rather often.
And because operators have to assume an emergency - with the caller perhaps hardly able to speak - they have to listen carefully and find out, which takes extra much time in case of butt dials because the caller is not at all aware of the call...
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So I notice there is a FedEx 'sorry we missed you' card in my letterbox.
The local Post Office used to do this to me quite frequently when I was living in a house where the mail box was at the street, rather than attached to my house as it is now.
Then one day I just happened to look out the window as the mail carrier was filling out the "we tried to deliver your package that requires a signature but you weren't home" card.
I realized that I had actually been home for all those previous times and the mail person was just lazy and didn't feel like getting out of his truck.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF Bites:
the mail person was just lazy and didn't feel like getting out of his truck.
Color me surprised...
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF Bites:
the mail person was just lazy and didn't feel like getting out of his truck.
Color me surprised...
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but makes me cry when I look at the prices.
How do they compare in Freedom units?
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WTF Status First,
is me for not remembering which password I had as my wifi. The second is Xfinity, for making me re-setup my router because the app forgot what I had. Despite it all working perfectly. The third is Apple. And that's the one I want to rant about.You see, I have a Macbook Pro for work. It was happily connected to the wifi. And then the password changed. Did it
- realize it had changed when it got unceremoniously dumped and couldn't reconnect and raise a warning?
- Just go offline and sulk?
- Something infinitely more stupid?
If you guessed 3, yup, you know apple. It instead went into a doom loop of trying to connect, failing, then trying to connect again, in such a tight loop that it made the wifi settings page not even show up until I rebooted. And even then, it would just flash on and then off, making it impossible to say "forget this network" or do anything else. I had to go into advanced settings, remove it from the list, then reconnect. No, I couldn't right click, because macs only gracefully handle one button. It Just Works my overweight butt.
Heck, my printer was more sane than it was. It just went "welp, I can't connect" and let me type in the password again.
Heck, the iOT washer was more sane than it was. Sure, I had to re-pair it, but it accepted it gracefully.
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