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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
It also sets a machine name of "New-(serial number)"
Meanwhile, our machines are all called
ntb
inventory-number (well, notebooks; desktops arepc
inventory-number) and who has it or where it's supposed to be is written in a database somewhere.
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
They never found the ones we were actually using.
Which is funny because it's rather trivial to determine open files on most file servers....
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
They never found the ones we were actually using.
Which is funny because it's rather trivial to determine open files on most file servers....
This would have been between 1992 and 1997 and our school system did not yet have anyone even called an "IT person" let alone a proper sysadmin. We only needed to avoid the graphics arts teacher who was generally responsible for the file shares and such. Also, he was pretty distracted by the female teacher next door and making sure that his wife didn't learn of his indiscretions.
It was like shooting fish in a barrel where the barrel in question is the barrel of a cannon.
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
It also sets a machine name of "New-(serial number)"
Meanwhile, our machines are all called
ntb
inventory-number (well, notebooks; desktops arepc
inventory-number) and who has it or where it's supposed to be is written in a database somewhere.The naming convention has to make sense for the scale. For clients with multiple locations we will squeeze in a location ID as an example. But if possible I always try to get the year of deployment in there. There are lots and lots of ways that you can store or derive the age of a device but it is really nice to be able to just look at a list and know the age of the device.
In addition, manual data entry methods are prone to mistakes and some of the ways that we can gather the information after the fact are prone to give you the wrong information under some circumstances. Like for instance, you can look in AD and get a date that a machine was added to AD. But, if someone replaces a machine and reuses a machine name without removing the first machine then the replacement machine assumes that attribute for its own and that data will give you the wrong information. Also, OS install date can also be unreliable. When we did the upgrade from Win7 to Win10 for a client all of those machines got their OS install date reset to that upgrade date. Which does make sense, but I think that I have found other examples of it happening where I know that date is wrong but I did not see a reason why it would have happened. It also obviously gets reset if you have to replace an OS drive and do a fresh install.
But if you can fit the install year into the machine name you always have that fallback and you can easily see how old a machine is on every single list you have whether any of that other data is there or not. You notice every time you see it in RMM or remote access or anything.
I even put it in server names. We have a client with multiple servers and I can tell you the approximate age of any of them just by the name without having to consult any documentation.
It is like self-documenting code, but it exists in reality. But I am also one of those weirdos that writes (most of) my comments before I write my code.
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my guess is Imperial March.
Of course it would be the Imperial one. That's the 30.48-day version, right?
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
I am also one of those weirdos
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Thanks, that helps a lot.
If you post anymore AEM documentation I'm going to have you banned.
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:
@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
I am also one of those weirdos
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Just a tiny little innocent bug...
In some versions the text-to-speech feature could bug out and start reading from the rude words list instead of the written text, with exciting results.
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@Atazhaia I now sincerely regret not having a rude words list in the last edusoft I wrote.
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Just a tiny little innocent bug...
In some versions the text-to-speech feature could bug out and start reading from the rude words list instead of the written text, with exciting results.OK, at least it's from 1998 and not 2018 as you might penis think. But using bugger the same TTS engine that came with the cocksucker Amiga in 1985 is quite asshole the wanker by itself.
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@Medinoc "Just?" As in your first time? I get that a few times a year.
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@Atazhaia I now sincerely regret not having a rude words list in the last edusoft I wrote.
You're thinking of autocorrect, I assume.
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@Atazhaia I now sincerely regret not having a rude words list in the last edusoft I wrote.
You're thinking of autocorrect, I assume.
No, I seriously have written software for schoolchildren, and people paid me to.
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@LaoC even Commodore shipped a few revisions and patches to (quite substantially) improve the say module in Workbench 2.0 and 3.0.
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In some versions the text-to-speech feature could bug out and start reading from the rude words list instead of the written text, with exciting results.
Text to speech, with added Tourette's Syndrome!
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In some versions the text-to-speech feature could bug out and start reading from the rude words list instead of the written text, with exciting results.
Text to speech, with added Tourette's Syndrome!
Non-discrimination!
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In some versions the text-to-speech feature could bug out and start reading from the rude words list instead of the written text, with exciting results.
Text to speech, with added Tourette's Syndrome!
Non-discrimination!
Hold on, isn't that illegal?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
They never found the ones we were actually using.
Which is funny because it's rather trivial to determine open files on most file servers....
The mysteries of
lsof
are deep and terrible and highly scriptable indeed. But, it's not POSIX and it's not default mostly.
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@Gribnit You could probably iterate
/proc/*/fd/*
to find the same information, but I doubt that's posix either.
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@PleegWat
lsof
does iterate/proc/*/fd/*
. But while/proc
wasn't actually invented in Linux (not sure in which Unix variant it was), it is a relatively late addition to it. And No-well Netware or whatever it was @Polygeekery was talking about was not a Unix anyway. It was a specialized network kludge. It might not have had anything like that.
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In some versions the text-to-speech feature could bug out and start reading from the rude words list instead of the written text, with exciting results.
Text to speech, with added Tourette's Syndrome!
Non-discrimination!
Hold on, isn't that illegal?
No, it's simply against the law.
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@Tsaukpaetra Discrimination is against the law... but non-discrimination is not against the law?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
In some versions the text-to-speech feature could bug out and start reading from the rude words list instead of the written text, with exciting results.
Text to speech, with added Tourette's Syndrome!
Non-discrimination!
Hold on, isn't that illegal?
No, it's simply against the law.
For more information please re-read.
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@loopback0 Don't.
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@loopback0 said in WTF Bites:
For more information please re-read.
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@loopback0 said in WTF Bites:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
In some versions the text-to-speech feature could bug out and start reading from the rude words list instead of the written text, with exciting results.
Text to speech, with added Tourette's Syndrome!
Non-discrimination!
Hold on, isn't that illegal?
No, it's simply against the law.
For more information please re-read.
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But while
/proc
wasn't actually invented in Linux (not sure in which Unix variant it was), it is a relatively late addition to it.There was a
/proc
in Solaris too, with some very crude similarities, but you had to like binary data to make much use of it. Don't know which came first, or whether it originated in a different Unix.
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@Arantor
Soon
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
It also sets a machine name of "New-(serial number)".
¹ One of my colleagues told me that when a new shopping mall was built in his home town, the locals called the original one the “old mall” and the new one the “new mall”. These nicknames stuck even after the so-called “new mall” was no longer particularly new. What made things even more confusing is that the “old mall” was renovated, but the locals still call it the “old mall”, leading to the odd situation where the “old mall” is actually newer than the “new mall”.
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@Gern_Blaanston see also: New Super Mario Bros. Ever since that game's release, saying "new Super Mario game" is always ambiguous.
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@Gustav eh, everyone calls it newsoup and since 3DW sucks it’s still the newest anyway.
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Clearly the best way is to name it
OldNew-(serial number)
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@Applied-Mediocrity New text document NEW (2) OLD.txt
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@Gern_Blaanston fair. But the idea is that "New" is a temporary identifier until permanent machine names are applied.
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@Polygeekery You know what they say about temporary identifiers.
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@Gustav that some became permanent until I started Googling for annoying beeper speaker music?
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
the idea is that "New" is a temporary identifier until permanent machine names are applied.
Yes. Absolutely right.
And we all know how well that usually works out.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF Bites:
@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
the idea is that "New" is a temporary identifier until permanent machine names are applied.
Yes. Absolutely right.
And we all know how well that usually works out.
Yeah, apparently pretty great. Except sometimes the wall starts playing the imperial march.
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@Gribnit You work for one of Polygeekery's clients and I claim my £5.
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You know how on YouTube, when you hover over a video miniature on home page, it starts playing preview? I clicked it and it paused.
Instead of, you know. OPENING THE FUCKING VIDEO.
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when you hover over a video miniature on home page
I fucking hate this feature.
Luckily I found you can turn it off.
Edit: but of course, the setting doesn't actually work.
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You know how on YouTube, when you hover over a video miniature on home page, it starts playing preview
It starts playing the whole video even. I've accidentally left the mouse hovering over one of those icons, gotten interrupted, have come back, and it's basically played 2/3rds of a 30 minute video. Why would you ever want that?
I much preferred the quick "highlights" it used to show. Independently from the additional dumbness that you mention.
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@cvi The problem is that cOnTeNt cReaToRs learned how to game the highlights and put cool shit at the beginning of scene changes that would make you watch the boring garbage the video actually was.
I'm not opposed to that feature. I don't use it often, but it saves me from loading the full page and going back. No algorithm can tell me what I don't want to see among those I may want to see, because that goes counterpoint to monetization and subscribe-begging.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF Bites:
These nicknames stuck even after the so-called “new mall” was no longer particularly new. What made things even more confusing is that the “old mall” was renovated, but the locals still call it the “old mall”, leading to the odd situation where the “old mall” is actually newer than the “new mall”.
I find absolutely nothing confusing in that. It's just the common practice.
Around here we have New Town, which dates back to IIRC 14th century. Which makes it newer than the Old Town, which is a couple centuries older still, but it's still second or third ( to look it up) oldest part of the city.
And it's not rare either. Every other city has some places named in similar way.
… and when we're here, there are whole cities named New <something>, <something> usually being either some nearby town people from which expanded to a new site long ago, or a town far away from which some important initial settlers came.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF Bites:
The problem is that cOnTeNt cReaToRs learned how to game the highlights and put cool shit at the beginning of scene changes that would make you watch the boring garbage the video actually was.
I mainly use it to find old videos (usually talks or similar) that I've already seen. E.g., I might remember where the video is from (channel, ...), but not the exact title or similar details. Searching for appropriate keywords (or finding the right playlist) usually narrows down the results enough that I can identify the video from the highlights. (Hopping in the popup is too down slow.)
It helps that this is mostly for talks and other technical content, so it's less tied to cOnTeNt cReaToRs wanting to make you watch the video. For non-technical content, I rarely use either feature. I follow some creators who have a non-terrible signal-to-noise ratio. Random-ass videos? Meh. More miss than hit - neither preview helps me much there.
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I find absolutely nothing confusing in that. It's just the common practice.
The Philippines has a couple of
freedom fighterterrorist groups, two of which are the Revolutionary People's Army and the New People's Army, with the RPA being the reformist wing and the NPA the older of the two.
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@Bulb and it's fucking stupid, is the thing. Still. It's parochialism of the 4th dimension.
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I find absolutely nothing confusing in that. It's just the common practice.
The Philippines has a couple of
freedom fighterterrorist groups, two of which are the Revolutionary People's Army and the New People's Army, with the RPA being the reformist wing and the NPA the older of the two.Bloody splitters!