Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise
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@El_Heffe this is one of the first Tesla associated posts that I approve of. Well done, their programming has amused me.
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@El_Heffe said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
“Open butthole,” with the accompanying command “Close butthole”
Has a clbuttic change to the actual wording already been applied?
Well, I mean the change
@PolygeekeryTesla associated posts
is missing in his wording.
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@BernieTheBernie said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@El_Heffe said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
“Open butthole,” with the accompanying command “Close butthole”
Has a clbuttic change to the actual wording already been applied?
Well, I mean the change
@PolygeekeryTesla associated posts
is missing in his wording.
This is all just a misunderstanding. Technically, a Tesla is a type of rifle.
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@Gribnit said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
Technically, a Tesla is a type of rifle.
It's a type of coil.
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@dkf said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@Gribnit said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
Technically, a Tesla is a type of rifle.
It's a type of coil.
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@Gribnit said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@dkf said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@Gribnit said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
Technically, a Tesla is a type of rifle.
It's a type of coil.
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@dkf said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@Gribnit said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@dkf said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@Gribnit said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
Technically, a Tesla is a type of rifle.
It's a type of coil.
yeah there's like 4-8 miniaturized versions of yon on there (depending on mod level). Doesn't show too well in the angle.
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More rifle-ish, less tower-ly.
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@cvi said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
More rifle-ish, less tower-ly.
Very definitely not a car. Possibly a transportation service. More of a rifle, mostly, all in all. What else is going to have a seriously named butt hole? Equipment classification is not a laughing matter.
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@dkf said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@Gribnit said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@dkf said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@Gribnit said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
Technically, a Tesla is a type of rifle.
It's a type of coil.
Looks like a sadistic buttplug.
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@Polygeekery looks like it may be one of Tesla's Earthquake Machines, if that's brickwork. Dunno.
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@dkf said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@Gribnit said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@dkf said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@Gribnit said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
Technically, a Tesla is a type of rifle.
It's a type of coil.
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@Gribnit said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
Technically, a Tesla is a type of rifle.
@dkf said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@Gribnit said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
Technically, a Tesla is a type of rifle.
It's a type of coil.
No no no, a tesla is 1 kg C⁻¹ s⁻¹.
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@kazitor said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@Gribnit said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
Technically, a Tesla is a type of rifle.
@dkf said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@Gribnit said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
Technically, a Tesla is a type of rifle.
It's a type of coil.
No no no, a tesla is 1 kg C⁻¹ s⁻¹.
No, it's a company
It's nice to make offhand remark that I've "just bought a used Tesla for $10" which is technically true!
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You're all wrong, it's clearly an antonomasia.
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@remi said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
You're all wrong, it's clearly an antonomasia.
Has computational linguistics even been able to establish the intuitively obvious identity between antonomasic forms and recipreversexclusonic numbers? No. So there's that for your hat.
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Another surprise for Tesla owners... (just try and find the Defroster icon after December's update)
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@dcon said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
the Defroster
I thought for sure it would be about how that was completely broken in sub-freezing temperatures or something...
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@dcon There's an interesting wrinkle in one thing the linked article says:
My suggestion would be to rank the core functions you want to be quickly found and put those in the bottom bar.
The correct ranking isn't universally what you'd think. The suggestion above made me think of an article I read once, about one of the British supermarket chains, I think J Sainsbury. Fairly senior management went into the stores to actually ask the cashiers what would make their lives easier(1), and one common answer wasn't quite what they were expecting.
The question concerned fruit and vegetables sold "loose" but priced per item with a numeric code on a sticker. Obviously from time to time, the sticker goes walkies without the piece of fruit, and the cashier has to look the thing up in a table. Fair enough, but which order should the table be in? Which ones should be first?
And the answer wasn't "the most common ones first". The cashiers all knew the codes for the very common ones (because they were very common, so seen often), so what the cashiers wanted at the top of the list was the second tier of commonness, the ones that weren't quite often enough to sink into their memory by repetition, but were often enough to be annoying and delaying if they weren't quick to look up.
(1) Yeah, I know, that sounds like a pipe-dream, but apparently it does happen.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
what would make their lives easier
I'm dumbfounded that Teslas don't go "Huh, the ass that's sitting in the driver's seat seams unfamiliar. Let's do a quick wizorial so they don't accidentally a thing with our whizbang self!"
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@dcon said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
the Defroster
I thought for sure it would be about how that was completely broken in sub-freezing temperatures or something...
:tesla: That's when the temperature drops below 50F, right? (Never happens here, let's just bury the button)
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@dcon said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
Another surprise for Tesla owners... (just try and find the Defroster icon after December's update)
I'm surprised they didn't slap a humidity sensor in there (near the windscreen I guess) so they can make the icon more visible when it is likely to be required.
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@dkf Or eliminate the button altogether and simply turn the defroster/defogger on automatically when they detect condensation on the glass. They already do that for the windshield wipers, I think.
INB4: That's a software update. That costs $5000.
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@HardwareGeek said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
INB4: That's a software update. That costs $5000.
Don't worry - if you drive outside of your internet connection while it's updating, you'll just brick your car.
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@dkf said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@dcon said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
Another surprise for Tesla owners... (just try and find the Defroster icon after December's update)
I'm surprised they didn't slap a humidity sensor in there (near the windscreen I guess) so they can make the icon more visible when it is likely to be required.
Oh yes, the one thing I'm missing when I'm driving on a highway at
highmedium speed is buttons suddenly disappearing and moving around on their own, Office Ribbon style.
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@dcon said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
if you drive outside of your internet connection while it's updating
I thought it would only drive in figure-8s while updating, or back and forth in the driveway.
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@dcon I'm working on fixing a defect that occurred because the user's network connection dropped after making an edit but before the round trip to inform the client that the save was successful and it should update the display got through.
So he did the edit again with the old entity IDs (ie without refreshing), and bad things happened.
So I could totally see this happening.
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@HardwareGeek said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@dkf Or eliminate the button altogether and simply turn the defroster/defogger on automatically when they detect condensation on the glass.
Bad ideas is although I guess any topic discussing Tesla is a de facto bad idea topic.
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@Gąska said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
Oh yes, the one thing I'm missing when I'm driving on a highway at highmedium speed is buttons suddenly disappearing and moving around on their own, Office Ribbon style.
Let's circle back to this in a couple years and have a good laugh... ha-ha, right?
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@Benjamin-Hall said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
So he did the edit again with the old entity IDs (ie without refreshing), and bad things happened.
So I could totally see this happening.Your identities change upon save?! Holy Shit....!
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@Tsaukpaetra User "Clark Kent" gets switched with user "Superman" and vice versa.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@Benjamin-Hall said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
So he did the edit again with the old entity IDs (ie without refreshing), and bad things happened.
So I could totally see this happening.Your identities change upon save?! Holy Shit....!
Well...yeah. Sort of. That part was designed before I got here, and resulted from an over-ambitious attempt at keeping past state.
So what happens is that there are entities that reference other entities by id. But when you edit the overall thing (which is basically a schedule with shifts past and present and future), it shouldn't change anything in the past. But should change the things in the future. It does this by keeping both the old ones around and the new ones and updating the parent entity to reference the new ids. So both the old ones and the new ones are still there, and no entity changes its id. It's just the mapping between "which one is the current one" that changes. And some of the change-detection (because some changes mean we have to throw away everything in the future and rebuild from scratch) got all confused. Effectively, it's the equivalent of a "detached HEAD" issue in git. Without the smarts to realize that.
The software did exactly what it was supposed to do. That just happened to be the wrong thing to do in this case.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
The software did exactly what it was supposed to do. That just happened to be the wrong thing to do in this case.
This sounds like a perfect opener to a post-apocalyptic science-fiction novel.
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@Zerosquare said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@Benjamin-Hall said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
The software did exactly what it was supposed to do. That just happened to be the wrong thing to do in this case.
This sounds like a perfect opener to a post-apocalyptic science-fiction novel.
Or an introduction to an article about Tesla cars, to bring it full circle.
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@Gąska said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@dkf said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@dcon said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
Another surprise for Tesla owners... (just try and find the Defroster icon after December's update)
I'm surprised they didn't slap a humidity sensor in there (near the windscreen I guess) so they can make the icon more visible when it is likely to be required.
Oh yes, the one thing I'm missing when I'm driving on a highway at
highmedium speed is buttons suddenly disappearing and moving around on their own, Office Ribbon style.📎 It looks like you're trying to defrost your windshield. Do you want help?
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@dcon said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
While pushing every button on the steering wheel
Oh, he hasn't even experienced Tesla's idea of improving that yet!
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@HardwareGeek said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
Or eliminate the button altogether and simply turn the defroster/defogger on automatically when they detect condensation on the glass.
If they can get that right, especially as it affects the part of the screen that it looks through. It sounds very difficult to me, so they'd probably use a camera and a neural network, meaning that if a bird flies past the car in just the right way, the screen heaters will go on full blast.
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@dkf I can't read TFA because of MySQL:
But anyway, I just wanted to say that in my current car, I never have to turn on the defroster manually, it somehow detects whenever it needs to turn itself on (no idea how it does it, but it Just Works). And while I can't remember the defogger ever turning itself on, I also never have to turn it on manually, so again somehow the car is smart enough to cycle the air in such a way that I don't have to worry about it.
So yeah, it's definitely feasible. Which of course is why Tesla is failing to do it.
(as an aside, all these "it Just Works" tiny things is one of the reasons I bought a "luxury" car, and probably what I appreciate the most -- I (almost) never have to worry about the lights, the windscreen wipers, the defroster, the night-mode for rear-view mirror and quite a few other tiny things I've simply entirely forgotten about. None of those are really hard to manage, but not having to manage them is even simpler.)
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@remi I'd guess a humidity sensor. Threshold set so that it maybe comes on a little low (since that's much better than the alternative). Augmented by AC so that there's almost always no need for the demist to come on during driving after the first few minutes.
And probably the button is still available somewhere so you can override a wrong-in-a-bad-way decision.
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@dkf said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
And probably the button is still available somewhere so you can override a wrong-in-a-bad-way decision.
It is indeed (and same for defroster). I just never use it.
But again, why would Tesla look at what other brands are making and how they actually make it Work, rather than poorly reinventing the wheel? That's just madness.
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@remi said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@dkf said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
And probably the button is still available somewhere so you can override a wrong-in-a-bad-way decision.
It is indeed (and same for defroster). I just never use it.
But again, why would Tesla look at what other brands are making and how they actually make it Work, rather than poorly reinventing the wheel? That's just madness.
You can't be disruptive if you're doing the same as everyone else. It's just that disruption is a bad thing most of the time.
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@remi said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
So yeah, it's definitely feasible. Which of course is why Tesla is failing to do it.
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@Zerosquare said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@Benjamin-Hall said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
The software did exactly what it was supposed to do. That just happened to be the wrong thing to do in this case.
This sounds like a perfect opener to a post-apocalyptic science-fiction novel.
And then the murders began
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@hungrier said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@Zerosquare said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@Benjamin-Hall said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
The software did exactly what it was supposed to do. That just happened to be the wrong thing to do in this case.
This sounds like a perfect opener to a post-apocalyptic science-fiction novel.
And then the murders began
I wonder if we could write a short story using nothing but quotes from signatures.
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@Zerosquare said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@hungrier said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@Zerosquare said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@Benjamin-Hall said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
The software did exactly what it was supposed to do. That just happened to be the wrong thing to do in this case.
This sounds like a perfect opener to a post-apocalyptic science-fiction novel.
And then the murders began
I wonder if we could write a short story using nothing but quotes from signatures.
"yes"
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@Deadfast said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@dcon said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
While pushing every button on the steering wheel
Oh, he hasn't even experienced Tesla's idea of improving that yet!
Horn button right under the thumb so that if you grip the steering wheel too tightly you get a notification?
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@Watson said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@Deadfast said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@dcon said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
While pushing every button on the steering wheel
Oh, he hasn't even experienced Tesla's idea of improving that yet!
Horn button right under the thumb so that if you grip the steering wheel too tightly you get a notification?
More so the fact that it's not even a wheel.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@Zerosquare said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@hungrier said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@Zerosquare said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
@Benjamin-Hall said in Tesla Owners Get a Little Surprise:
The software did exactly what it was supposed to do. That just happened to be the wrong thing to do in this case.
This sounds like a perfect opener to a post-apocalyptic science-fiction novel.
And then the murders began
I wonder if we could write a short story using nothing but quotes from signatures.
"yes"
"even in the face of" "unexpected" "ex""i""gen""cies," "most likely"