WTF Bites
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But on a serious note, I worked with great female programmers, so they exist. But they are rare - just a fact of life.
And the premise / complaint was "they don't exist, so it's obviously
".It was not.
reality is considered offensive by soy cucks.
Would those great female programmers you've worked with have been offended if you had told them "you must be a man"? Would you consider it offensive?
Why would I say something like this to them?
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But on a serious note, I worked with great female programmers, so they exist. But they are rare - just a fact of life.
And the premise / complaint was "they don't exist, so it's obviously
".It was not.
reality is considered offensive by soy cucks.
Would those great female programmers you've worked with have been offended if you had told them "you must be a man"? Would you consider it offensive?
Why would I say something like this to them?
The player is supposed to figure out that since they're a programmer, they cannot possibly be a girl.
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The player is supposed to figure out that since they're a programmer, they cannot possibly be a girl.
That's Gąska's supposition, not the premise. And not the part I was referring to.
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The player is supposed to figure out that since they're a programmer, they cannot possibly be a girl.
That's Gąska's supposition, not the premise.
Actually, no, it's a major plot point in the game that they're not a girl and the game requires you to figure it out based on this and a few other things to push the story forward. That was 100% intended as foreshadowing. The game is full of subtle hints like that.
And not the part I was referring to.
That's what happens when you take things out of context - they lose the meaning they had in the context.
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The player is supposed to figure out that since they're a programmer, they cannot possibly be a girl.
That's Gąska's supposition, not the premise.
Actually, no, it's a major plot point in the game that they're not a girl and the game requires you to figure it out based on this
Figure out what based on what?
and a few other things to push the story forward.
What?
That was 100% intended as foreshadowing.
What?!
The game is full of subtle hints like that.
What?! yet again.
And not the part I was referring to.
That's what happens when you take things out of context - they lose the meaning they had in the context.
Wtf are you talking about?
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@MrL um... how much of my spoilered post did you not read?
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@MrL um... how much of my spoilered post did you not read?
I see we are firmly in "Gąska can't communicate" territory. I'm out.
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So, a North Pole and a South Pole walk into a bar...
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They should film a real story from my life: "a
femaleprogrammer? This can't be, something's not right there... hey look,she'sthey're terrible and barely a code monkey, something wasn't right!"FTFreality
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They should film a real story from my life: "a
femaleprogrammer? This can't be, something's not right there... hey look,she'sthey're terrible and barely a code monkey, something wasn't right!"FTFreality
Sturgeon's Law is a cruel mistress.
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@El_Heffe I mean, this is
LotusIBMNotes we're talking about here. I'd be surprised if anyone got the instructions.Semi QOOC from TFA:
IBM Notes won't work
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That's what happens when you take things out of context
We have a whole thread for that. 3 of them, in fact.
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How does anyone make something so terrible? Seriously.
Only Ever Add Features.
Also . . . . "We seriously believe that you'll never use any program other than ours, so, we can make the UI completely different from every other Windows program every created."
Entered a password? So secure! Not even the user has any idea what they're typing! And watching makes it harder! So secure. Yeah fuck Lotus Notes.
But how else would you spearhead the social mobile web revolution!?!
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@MrL um... how much of my spoilered post did you not read?
I see we are firmly in "Gąska can't communicate" territory. I'm out.
While that is sometimes true, I'm going to disagree in this case. I haven't played the game, so I have no idea whether or not what @Gąska said about it is correct, but I perfectly understood what he said.
According to @Gąska, the game has a character who is a female programmer, but it turns out that the characters is actually male. (I think we all made it that far.) The player is expected to figure out that the character is male. (So far, so good?) One of the major clues that the character is really male is that he's a programmer. This is a clue because, according to (@Gąska's description of) the game, this is impossible; a female can't be a programmer. The idea that a female can't be a programmer is sexist AF is @Gąska's opinion, of course, but I agree with it; one of the coworkers I worked closely with at my first job out of university was a woman programming device drivers in 8086 assembly language.
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:
This is a clue because, according to (@Gąska's description of) the game, this is impossible; a female can't be a programmer.
That's where the confusion lies. My understanding was that the game hints the player that the person in question is male in different ways, one of which is that it's unlikely that a woman would be a great programmer. Which I don't consider sexist.
"It's unlikely/uncommon/weird that a great programmer is female"
"It's impossible for a woman to be a programmer"
Two very different things.
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Danganronpa spoilers
This game has a character who's a super skilled programmer. And a girl. At one point the game straight up says how weird it is for a girl to be a programmer. As if that wasn't sexist enough, here comes the plot twist: turns out it's actually a boy. And that earlier scene is meant as foreshadowing. The player is supposed to figure out that since they're a programmer, they cannot possibly be a girl.
I like Japanese culture but they could really tone down with the sexism.
Also, the super strong girl doesn't just have man-like muscles, she also has man-like face. One does not simply get ripped and remain feminine.
It is really, really hard to remove the sexism or racism from Japanese culture.
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@boomzilla said in WTF Bites:
How does anyone make something so terrible? Seriously.
Only Ever Add Features.
Also . . . . "We seriously believe that you'll never use any program other than ours, so, we can make the UI completely different from every other Windows program every created."
Entered a password? So secure! Not even the user has any idea what they're typing! And watching makes it harder! So secure. Yeah fuck Lotus Notes.
But how else would you spearhead the social mobile web revolution!?!
But that's not what CouchDB even did.
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@boomzilla said in WTF Bites:
How does anyone make something so terrible? Seriously.
Only Ever Add Features.
Also . . . . "We seriously believe that you'll never use any program other than ours, so, we can make the UI completely different from every other Windows program every created."
Entered a password? So secure! Not even the user has any idea what they're typing! And watching makes it harder! So secure. Yeah fuck Lotus Notes.
But how else would you spearhead the social mobile web revolution!?!
But that's not what CouchDB even did.
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Danganronpa spoilers
This game has a character who's a super skilled programmer. And a girl. At one point the game straight up says how weird it is for a girl to be a programmer. As if that wasn't sexist enough, here comes the plot twist: turns out it's actually a boy. And that earlier scene is meant as foreshadowing. The player is supposed to figure out that since they're a programmer, they cannot possibly be a girl.
I like Japanese culture but they could really tone down with the sexism.
Also, the super strong girl doesn't just have man-like muscles, she also has man-like face. One does not simply get ripped and remain feminine.
It is really, really hard to remove the sexism or racism from
Japaneseculture.
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Danganronpa spoilers
This game has a character who's a super skilled programmer. And a girl. At one point the game straight up says how weird it is for a girl to be a programmer. As if that wasn't sexist enough, here comes the plot twist: turns out it's actually a boy. And that earlier scene is meant as foreshadowing. The player is supposed to figure out that since they're a programmer, they cannot possibly be a girl.
I like Japanese culture but they could really tone down with the sexism.
Also, the super strong girl doesn't just have man-like muscles, she also has man-like face. One does not simply get ripped and remain feminine.
It is really, really hard to remove the sexism or racism from
Japaneseculture.Fair. They're still a painfully difficult case. Geographic factors mostly.
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I cannot believe how insanely bad the Reddit post editor is. I mean, it seems to be good tradition for the developers of forum software to create fucking retarded JS garbage that doesn't work, in good CS tradition of "FUCKING HELL WHY DOES IT DELETE TWO CHARACTERS WHEN I PRESS BACKSPACE ONCE". And the
post editor is a clusterfuck too.But that reddit thing, it's something else. It randomly "quotes" shit that's not even in the post I'm replying to. It manages to break copy and paste. It just broke backspace, too. To remove some text instead of pressing backspace I have to select it, then press a different character, then press it again. Then it replaces the selected text with the chracter I pressed twice. I'd open a normal editor and just type in there, if it hadn't broken copy and paste.
All you fucking JS monkeys out there writing forum software, just give me a raw HTML text input widget. It works.
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Reddit... you mean, the company that deliberately makes their web version terrible to (try to) make their users switch to their app?
Filed under: old.reddit.com
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I cannot believe how insanely bad the Reddit post editor is. I mean, it seems to be good tradition for the developers of forum software to create fucking retarded JS garbage that doesn't work, in good CS tradition of "FUCKING HELL WHY DOES IT DELETE TWO CHARACTERS WHEN I PRESS BACKSPACE ONCE". And the
post editor is a clusterfuck too.But that reddit thing, it's something else. It randomly "quotes" shit that's not even in the post I'm replying to. It manages to break copy and paste. It just broke backspace, too. To remove some text instead of pressing backspace I have to select it, then press a different character, then press it again. Then it replaces the selected text with the chracter I pressed twice. I'd open a normal editor and just type in there, if it hadn't broken copy and paste.
All you fucking JS monkeys out there writing forum software, just give me a raw HTML text input widget. It works.
That would explain why it's disabled by default.
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@Gąska I didn’t enable anything. Is this A/B testing?
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I'm trying to paste something into Word. It gives me this
nicecrazy dialog:
Translated:
This document contains fields which can share data with external files and websites. It is important that this file comes from a trustworthy source.
If you click "Yes" all fields of this file will be updated until you close it.
NoYesWhat?!
What document are you talking about, the one I'm editing or the one I'm trying to copy from? Do the different sentences even refer to the same one?
What even is the fucking question?!There is literally no question mark anywhere in there, what am I supposed to answer here?!
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@topspin If you click "Potato" all fields of this file will be updated until you close it.
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@topspin If you click "Potato" all fields of this file will be updated until you close it.
If you update the file, all potatoes in the field will be closed til you click it.
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Why would I say something like this to them?
Neo: thought you were a guy.
Trinity: most guys do.
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Danganronpa spoilers
This game has a character who's a super skilled programmer. And a girl. At one point the game straight up says how weird it is for a girl to be a programmer. As if that wasn't sexist enough, here comes the plot twist: turns out it's actually a boy. And that earlier scene is meant as foreshadowing. The player is supposed to figure out that since they're a programmer, they cannot possibly be a girl.
I like Japanese culture but they could really tone down with the sexism.
Also, the super strong girl doesn't just have man-like muscles, she also has man-like face. One does not simply get ripped and remain feminine.
I may have possibly accidentally spoiled this spoiler for myself by Googling "chihiro rule 34."
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@Gąska I never actually made the connection that the programmer profession was foreshadowing for it being a boy. It is a simple statistical fact that most programmers are male, though I also have worked with female programmers - both good and bad - there are noticeably fewer of them.
Chihiro is also a bit of an unusual case, because the game seems to make a particular point that he is not trans, and is explicitly a boy pretending to be a girl. Which is the accusation hurled at many trans-women, especially around bathrooms and sports.
So, I agree the game has harmful stereotypes, but not about which ones.
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@topspin If you click "Potato" all fields of this file will be updated until you close it.
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@topspin If you click "Potato" all fields of this file will be updated until you close it.
Status: hungry for carbs
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@MrL um... how much of my spoilered post did you not read?
I see we are firmly in "Gąska can't communicate" territory. I'm out.
I see you still think you can do something you call "communicate". Wait till you find out you're actually a boy.
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As mentioned elsewhere, circumstances forced me to invest into a 2D printer. I got it earlier today, opened up the package about 30 minutes ago, got it connected to my network ... and, well, ended up here. In the printer's defense, it does print stuff, so things aren't exactly going badly. But...
OK, that doesn't look to bad. UI screams Windows 98, but, hey, it's a 2D printer, so the timeframe kinda matches. Let's look at power management (example):
Uh, OK?
Ooops, I accidentally cropped out the power management:
(Yes, the bottom of that screenshot really is the bottom of the browser window.)
Filed under: Framesets, another 90s technology
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Danganronpa spoilers
This game has a character who's a super skilled programmer. And a girl. At one point the game straight up says how weird it is for a girl to be a programmer. As if that wasn't sexist enough, here comes the plot twist: turns out it's actually a boy. And that earlier scene is meant as foreshadowing. The player is supposed to figure out that since they're a programmer, they cannot possibly be a girl.
I like Japanese culture but they could really tone down with the sexism.
Also, the super strong girl doesn't just have man-like muscles, she also has man-like face. One does not simply get ripped and remain feminine.
I may have possibly accidentally spoiled this spoiler for myself by Googling "chihiro rule 34."
I wonder how the rule 63 works in Chihiro's case.
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@Gąska I never actually made the connection that the programmer profession was foreshadowing for it being a boy.
Did you do Report Card? One of the conversations is very blatant about it (2nd or 3rd, I think.)
Chihiro is also a bit of an unusual case, because the game seems to make a particular point that he is not trans, and is explicitly a boy pretending to be a girl.
It's only unusual if you don't watch anime. For some reason, crossdressing to hide identity is far more common there than being trans. I've seen this scenario at least 5 times in different works before.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
Wait till you find out you're
actuallya real boy.FTF Pinnocchio
This post is very amusing in context of what happens later in the game.
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if you don't watch anime
For clarity, I mean why would you watch it, not why would you not watch it.
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@HardwareGeek why do some people watch baseball? That's even dumber and yet they aren't being kink shamed for it.
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@HardwareGeek why do some people watch baseball? That's even dumber and yet they aren't being kink shamed for it.
No alcohol concession for anime.
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@Gąska I'm not kink shaming (my son watches certain anime with enthusiasm), but I don't understand the appeal, myself. And as a nerd, it's fun to gently tease other nerds about their nerdiness.
Also, I strongly disagree with you about baseball. I don't really into sports, but to the extent any sport is "great", baseball is the greatest. Although at the professional level, it seems pretty much all sports these days care more about politics than actually playing the game, and baseball is no exception, so I don't watch baseball any more, either.
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:
all sports
viewers these days care more about politics than actuallyplayingwatching the game,
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:
I'm not kink shaming (my son watches certain anime with enthusiasm), but I don't understand the appeal, myself.
I was too literal and read it as "why would you [not watch anime]?" So, in favor of anime.
And, speaking of kink-shaming, you can find the most depraved shit imaginable in anime form. Not that I'm complaining, mind you.
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:
@Gąska I'm not kink shaming (my son watches certain anime with enthusiasm), but I don't understand the appeal, myself.
Do you watch any TV series? Anime isn't much different than any other kind TV series. Except that it's Japanese so the common tropes and cultural references are going to be totally different than in US productions.
I'm not anime fan. That would be like saying I'm cinema fan, or cartoon fan, or prose fan. Anime can be anything, just like a book can by anything - from comedy to sci-fi drama to psychological horror. Same with anime. Anime just describes animation style that's most popular in Japan. I'm a fan of a few TV shows that just so happen to be anime, because they're good shows.
Also, I strongly disagree with you about baseball. I don't really into sports, but to the extent any sport is "great", baseball is the greatest.
It's the most boring sport I've ever seen. They're just standing there, and every 5 minutes a ball is thrown and more often than not it doesn't reach the batter, and if it does, more often than not the batter misses the ball, and when they don't, they run a bit to a set destination and the opposing players catch the ball, pass it to pitcher, rinse and repeat. No maneuvering, almost no tactics, nothing to differentiate teams from each other by how they play. And it's been scientifically proven to be the most luck-dependent sport of the 4 big US sports by a huge margin. What's the point of a league if the best one doesn't win?
Although at the professional level, it seems pretty much all sports these days care more about politics than actually playing the game, so I don't watch baseball any more, either.
Soccer doesn't, but it makes sense an American wouldn't know that.
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Do you watch any TV series?
Not really, no. The last show that I can think of that I watched with any sort of regularity was Castle, and by the time it ended, I was at least a couple of years behind. Um, Doctor Who, I don't think I've seen more than one or two episodes more recent than David Tennant. When I moved to this house, a slimy customer disservice rep signed me up for AT&T TV without my realizing he was doing that (when he asked about watching shows, I thought he was just figuring out how much internet bandwidth I'd need for streaming video — and he failed/lied about that, too); I paid them an early termination fee to make it go away, because I'd spend a grand total of maybe a half-hour channel flipping, and never watched a single show, in the entire year I had it. I have access to my son's Netflix, Hulu, Vudu and whatever accounts, but I've never watched any of their original shows, and barely any movies. There is a small handful of YouTubers that I watch regularly; does that count?
It's the most boring sport I've ever seen.
I disagree, perhaps in part because I understand the strategy of baseball better than any other sport. I know the world loves soccer, but to me, it's just a bunch of guys kicking a ball around. I know the rules and the ultimate goal (kick the ball into the net), but I don't understand the strategy. (Why did person A kick the ball to person B instead of person C?
) So I find it even less interesting than other sports.
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:
Why did person A kick the ball to person B instead of person C?
This was considered more likely to result in the ball going in the net. Or if they're on defense, the other net.
I don't think this is a very good riddle.
