WTF Bites


  • BINNED

    @cvi said in WTF Bites:

    I would then expect a mixture of both pigments to reflect slightly in either.

    Which is why the mixture is still slightly purple. But very weakly. The only thing preventing me from plotting measured and hypothetical reflectance curves here is :kneeling_warthog:.

    IMO, the subtractive mixing makes much more intuitive sense when you talk about transmission, where the light passes through both media.

    Not just IYO, but in reality too. “Subtractive” is better described as “multiplicative,” and it models successive filters perfectly.

    Pigments mix more like a geometric mean, which is still fundamentally multiplicative-but-not-quite, but there are additional factors like a slight additive-average component that also depends on the medium – particles suspended in transparent substance (like paints are) mix more multiplicatively, while particles alone have a larger additive-average component. Then glazing one layer on top of another will have the top contribute more of an additive-averaging effect than the bottom, etc.

    Now you could get into the Kubelka-Munk theory of scattering, but that sounds hard. Just Never Add Black Paint Ever Because It Is Evil™ and I Swear RYB Are Speshul Even Though They Alone Are Never Practical And Bear Only Superficial Resemblance To Working Colour Reproduction MethodologiesⓇ.



  • @BernieTheBernie said in WTF Bites:

    "zh_CH" - what's that?

    Zürich, Confoederatio Helvetica, I'd guess. Both of these parts are the respective "standard" abbreviations.

    Not sure why they'd need their own locale, though.



  • I have several versions of Visual Studio installed. When I type in the start menu search box:

    • "vi" -> Best match: Visual Studio 2015; "apps" does not list any other version of VS.
    • "vis" -> Best match: Visual Studio 2019; "apps" lists only VS2015
    • "visu" or "visua" -> Best match: Visual Studio 2019; "apps" lists VS2015, VS2017, VS installer, Blend for VS2015, Blend for VS2019, Blend for VS2017
    • 'visual" -> Best match: Visual Studio 2015; "apps" lists VS2019, VS2017, VS installer, Blend for VS2015, Blend for VS2019

    :wat:


    Filed under: VI is never the best match



  • @ixvedeusi said in WTF Bites:

    Not sure why they'd need their own locale, though.

    I agree, that would be the only locale that's really needed. 🍹

    But I think people from other places may disagree, and something like be_CH or vs_CH would definitively be different.



  • @cvi I don't really see what differences between zh_CH and be_CH could be accounted for by locale (they speak a different dialect, but date formatting, currency, official languages, time zone, character sets etc are the same for the entirety of German-speaking Switzerland). And vs_CH would be rather useless because you'd also need to know if you're in the French- or German-speaking part of Valais...

    I would have thought the meaningful locales for Switzerland would be de_CH, fr_CH and it_CH (I don't know about an official abbreviation for Rumantsch, and not sure they have access to computers up there :trollface: )



  • @ixvedeusi said in WTF Bites:

    I have several versions of Visual Studio installed. When I type in the start menu search box:

    • "vi" -> Best match: Visual Studio 2015; "apps" does not list any other version of VS.
    • "vis" -> Best match: Visual Studio 2019; "apps" lists only VS2015
    • "visu" or "visua" -> Best match: Visual Studio 2019; "apps" lists VS2015, VS2017, VS installer, Blend for VS2015, Blend for VS2019, Blend for VS2017
    • 'visual" -> Best match: Visual Studio 2015; "apps" lists VS2019, VS2017, VS installer, Blend for VS2015, Blend for VS2019

    I get more or less the same. But that's true with any application I'm searching for, my experience is that typing in the start menu brings in random results that rarely, if ever, actually include what you actually typed. It's broken in a way that's beyond comprehension.

    • "vi" -> best match is VS 2013, apps lists "visual studio installer" and other non-VS stuff
    • "vis" -> best is still 2013, apps now lists 2017 and Blend for 2013 in addition to the "installer"
    • "visu" -> best is now 2017
    • "visua" -> best is now back to 2013!
    • "visual" -> it seems stuck on 2013 now

    Adding more letter makes it switch randomly (but reproducibly) between 2013 and 2017. "visual " is still 2013, "visual s" to "visual studi" is 2017, "visual studio" is back to 2013.

    Cherry on the cake, sometimes adding one letter makes both 2013 and 2017 appear as the "best match" (yes, singular...). But it's entirely random, I rarely can reproduce it and get it maybe once every 10 tries.

    :wat: indeed.


  • Notification Spam Recipient

    @remi I have a theory, based on my experiences with my phone's auto-complete predictor. It's just trying to be "smart". It starts by giving you some results. However, when you type another letter, instead of clicking one of the results, the results were obviously wrong, so it needs to give you a new set of results.



  • @Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:

    @sebastian-galczynski said in WTF Bites:

    they ordered a feature which would pass all their content through Google translate, to generate new language versions of their site. All content, including isolated proper nouns

    Even if they excluded isolated proper nouns, websites that use automatic translation are still a :wtf:. Either get a proper translation, or don't bother at all. Showing foreign visitors a bunch of machine-generated gibberish is worse than either option.

    Microsoft disagrees. They enabled machine-translating all their documentation some time ago. With predictable results (translating keywords ftw).



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  • @Bulb said in WTF Bites:

    @Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:

    @sebastian-galczynski said in WTF Bites:

    they ordered a feature which would pass all their content through Google translate, to generate new language versions of their site. All content, including isolated proper nouns

    Even if they excluded isolated proper nouns, websites that use automatic translation are still a :wtf:. Either get a proper translation, or don't bother at all. Showing foreign visitors a bunch of machine-generated gibberish is worse than either option.

    Microsoft disagrees. They enabled machine-translating all their documentation some time ago. With predictable results (translating keywords ftw).

    Do you remember the Windows version with disk loudness management?
    Machine translation just makes it more consistent.



  • @Vault_Dweller said in WTF Bites:

    @remi I have a theory, based on my experiences with my phone's auto-complete predictor. It's just trying to be "smart". It starts by giving you some results. However, when you type another letter, instead of clicking one of the results, the results were obviously wrong, so it needs to give you a new set of results.

    That's both possible, not working as expected and stupid. Not working, because why would it randomly switch between two applications depending on the letters I typed, and not switch every letter? Also, why would it not list other possible matches from the start (I only get 2017 in the other apps with "vis", not "vi" -- and the list with "vi" only contains 2 items, so it's not like there are too many other possible choices)?

    It's entirely possible that it is intended to work this way, because I suspect that this also what my phone keyboard (the basic Google one) does. But in both cases, it's hugely stupid because it only works if you type one letter, stop to watch the list of results, then type another letter etc. Which is not how anyone types on a keyboard. Either you're a good typist and you reflexively type several letters very quickly without thinking about it, or you're a bad typist and you look at the keyboard for every stroke but then you also type several letters before looking at the result.

    On my phone, I hate it because I start typing a word (looking at the keyboard), out of the corner of my eye I glimpse a suggestion that's what I want, but I'm already typing the next letter, so when I go for the suggestion after that, it has changed and I end up picking the wrong word. At the very least it should keep the central suggestion constant (if it matches letters typed, of course), and similarly Windows should keep the same "best match" (they can vary the other suggestions in both cases).


  • Notification Spam Recipient

    @remi said in WTF Bites:

    On my phone, I hate it because I start typing a word (looking at the keyboard), out of the corner of my eye I glimpse a suggestion that's what I want, but I'm already typing the next letter, so when I go for the suggestion after that, it has changed and I end up picking the wrong word. At the very least it should keep the central suggestion constant (if it matches letters typed, of course), and similarly Windows should keep the same "best match" (they can vary the other suggestions in both cases).

    This is exactly my experience and why I mentioned it.



  • @ixvedeusi It wasn't entirely serious.

    But ... date formatting does include names of the days. Do you say "Määntig" or "Mändig" for Monday? Important distinction. Very confusing if you pick the wrong one. Currency: CHF 5, 5 Stutz, 5 Stütz or 5 Franke or something entirely different?



  • @cvi I am wondering, what is Switzerland doing right and all the rest of the world does not that it can exist as stable multi-national country for a thousand years and every other country with multiple ethnics (or, worse, races) has serious issues at least every now and then. Even all the immigrants from India and wherever seem to have integrated pretty well in Switzerland.


  • Fake News

    @ixvedeusi said in WTF Bites:

    I have several versions of Visual Studio installed. When I type in the start menu search box:

    • "vi" -> Best match: Visual Studio 2015; "apps" does not list any other version of VS.
    • "vis" -> Best match: Visual Studio 2019; "apps" lists only VS2015
    • "visu" or "visua" -> Best match: Visual Studio 2019; "apps" lists VS2015, VS2017, VS installer, Blend for VS2015, Blend for VS2019, Blend for VS2017
    • 'visual" -> Best match: Visual Studio 2015; "apps" lists VS2019, VS2017, VS installer, Blend for VS2015, Blend for VS2019

    :wat:


    Filed under: VI is never the best match

    It's dangerous to go alone! Take this.



  • @Bulb said in WTF Bites:

    I am wondering, what is Switzerland doing right and all the rest of the world does not that it can exist as stable multi-national country for a thousand years and every other country with multiple ethnics (or, worse, races) has serious issues at least every now and then.

    That might be an interesting topic for a serious discussion (there are IMHO some good reasons why it works here; I'm more wondering about why the rest of you can't seem to chill out a bit and get your shit together). But my favorite explanation is that in the last civil war we had there were more casualties from friendly fire than from enemy fire, so we realized we seem to suck at this and maybe need to find other ways to cope with our differences.


  • Considered Harmful

    @JBert said in WTF Bites:

    It's dangerous to go alone! Take this.
    Launchy: The Open Source Keystroke Launcher

    🚨 We know you're there, @hungrier. Now put Launchy down and step away from the vehicle 🚨



  • In the 15 competing standards department, :wtf: in $hell does Kusto Query Language even exist‽ As far as I can tell it is just a different syntax for what is semantically plain old SQL.


  • 🚽 Regular

    @Bulb

    Logs | where Timestamp > ago(1d) | count

    Table name right up front enabling autocomplete? Pipeline-like syntax enabling reading from left to right?
    Simple straightforward syntax for handling dates?

    Do want.


  • Trolleybus Mechanic

    @Bulb said in WTF Bites:

    Microsoft disagrees. They enabled machine-translating all their documentation some time ago. With predictable results (translating keywords ftw).

    Oh jeez, the special client has a button like that too. It translates templates used to send email notifications. He even reported that {% для x в a %} caused an error once. Since the button was implemented so that it automagically embedded itself into pretty much all textarea fields, I only issued a notice to his secretary: DO NOT TOUCH TEMPLATES. She doesn't work there anymore, but somehow it worked. I think he simply forgot about that tab.



  • @kazitor said in WTF Bites:

    How crazy that the printing world, which benefits from producing as wide a range of colours with as few primaries as possible, universally uses cyan and magenta rather than blue and red. :thonking: How crazy that the “split primary palette” that is able to produce a better range of colours than RYB alone just happens to include primaries much closer to cyan and magenta. HMMMMMMM.

    As citation for “red and blue pigments produce murky shit,”

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

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    And if you make the slightest effort to physically describe subtractive mixing in terms of light, it’s trivially obvious why: red pigment strongly reflects long wavelengths only. Blue pigment strongly reflects short wavelengths only. The overlap of strong reflectance is negligible. The result is almost nothing strong reflected back.

    And there's a reason that CMYK includes K. That "murky shit" is more of a murky brown than a black, even with yellow added to absorb the blue. You need to add a real black to the mix to get anything blacker than "murky shit."



  • @Bulb said in WTF Bites:

    @cvi I am wondering, what is Switzerland doing right and all the rest of the world does not that it can exist as stable multi-national country for a thousand years and every other country with multiple ethnics (or, worse, races) has serious issues at least every now and then. Even all the immigrants from India and wherever seem to have integrated pretty well in Switzerland.

    This is, indeed, a big topic. I personally think that the most important thing here is that the (Old-) Swiss Confederacy was primarily a military alliance and it was extremely successful: it took two European superpowers head-on and won. All the "nations" knew that they would quickly perish and had very strong incentive to smooth over any disputes.
    Compare to defensibility of Belgium, which became kinda recurring joke in 20th century.

    Also, the real Swiss "state" is actually much newer than you think (actually, even the original Swiss Confederacy is nowhere near one thousand years old) and does not actually contain all members of the Confederacy. Some of them opted to stay independent - for example, you know (do you? :thats_the_joke: ) the Free Republic of Mulhouse.


  • Java Dev

    Looking up fans at Noctua. Needs a low-profile fan and I looked up the compatibility chart.

    3800x-wtf.png

    All the 105W TDP CPUs comes with a warning. Except for the 3800X. So despite being rated to do up to the same heat output as the other ones with a comment it's marked as being all fine.


  • BINNED

    @Kamil-Podlesak said in WTF Bites:

    Compare to defensibility of Belgium, which became kinda recurring joke in 20th century.

    Yper and Bastogne would like a word with you.

    Related: there is something to say about how the terrain plays a smaller role then thought. It's more often a question of determination and resources.
    During the independence revolution the Dutch armee didn't push through.
    In WWI there was bitter determination to hold on to those last stretches of Free Belgium.
    In WWII the king took the French option because of the price that was payed during WWI.
    During the Battle of the Bulge limited resources and determination played a major role in the outcome.



  • @Luhmann said in WTF Bites:

    @Kamil-Podlesak said in WTF Bites:

    Compare to defensibility of Belgium, which became kinda recurring joke in 20th century.

    Yper and Bastogne would like a word with you.

    Yeah, of course, the real world is always more complicated than memes.
    Also, many countries fared way, way worse.



  • cvi: *opens mail that hovers on the spam/no-spam border*
    📧: Deeply attracted by your paper titled "<title>", we wholeheartedly invite you to [...]
    cvi: *reports junk mail*

    English levels in spam may have been improving over the past decade or two, but clearly they still have zero fucking clue when it comes to writing like a normal person.


  • BINNED

    @cvi said in WTF Bites:

    📧: Deeply attracted by your paper titled "<something about scientific computation>", we wholeheartedly invite you to become guest editor for a Special Issue of Journal of International Advances in Chemistry, Economics, Psychology and Junk Science

    ❓

    Am I close?



  • That, or a "conference".


  • 🚽 Regular

    @cvi said in WTF Bites:

    clearly they still have zero fucking clue when it comes to writing like a normal person.

    As a ESL person to whom that looks fine, I feel deeply insulted.


  • BINNED

    @Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:

    That, or a "conference".

    Yeah, that’s just as bad. Some “international” “workshop” conference in Mumbai Wuhan about... wait, no need to make something up, let’s quote a random sample

    Society of business, economics, social science & humanities, society of engineering & technology, computer, basic & applied sciences & society of medical, medicine and health sciences


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    As if this crappy language wasn't shit enough...

    
    While (boolStart)   // can't use IF here due to obscure bug
    ...snip...
        Set boolStart to False
    Loop
    
    

  • BINNED

    @Zecc said in WTF Bites:

    @cvi said in WTF Bites:

    clearly they still have zero fucking clue when it comes to writing like a normal person.

    As a ESL person to whom that looks fine, I feel deeply insulted.

    Not sure if it was a meme or something Blakey said, so I can't find it, but basically:
    If your email starts with "I hope this email finds you well" you sound like a psychopath. 🐠


  • Trolleybus Mechanic

    @Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:

    That, or a "conference".

    Organized by some Nowhere U in Bumfuck or something like that, with $5k attendance fee? These actually used to be extremely popular in Poland, especially among humanities "scholars", because your talk on a conference (no matter how obscure) counted as a published paper. Journals will reject your shitty papers, those crappy conferences won't. And after n published papers you will get the habilitation*, which makes you the king. Shitty private colleges will pay you just to be on the payroll, so that they get accredited by the ministry.
    I don't know if they fixed this in the humanities, probably not because why bother. STEM always took impact factor of the journal into account, so it wasn't so easy to game.

    *Preferably from the U of Ruzomberok, Slovakia, whose diplomas are respected due to some commie-era deal


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    @Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:

    That, or a "conference".

    Yeah, that’s just as bad. Some “international” “workshop” conference in Mumbai Wuhan about... wait, no need to make something up, let’s quote a random sample

    Society of business, economics, social science & humanities, society of engineering & technology, computer, basic & applied sciences & society of medical, medicine and health sciences

    The society of any old goddamn thing that will bring in the bucks.



  • @sebastian-galczynski said in WTF Bites:

    @Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:

    That, or a "conference".
    

    Organized by some Nowhere U in Bumfuck or something like that, with $5k attendance fee? These actually used to be extremely popular in Poland, especially among humanities "scholars", because your talk on a conference (no matter how obscure) counted as a published paper. Journals will reject your shitty papers, those crappy conferences won't. And after n published papers you will get the habilitation*, which makes you the king. Shitty private colleges will pay you just to be on the payroll, so that they get accredited by the ministry.
    I don't know if they fixed this in the humanities, probably not because why bother. STEM always took impact factor of the journal into account, so it wasn't so easy to game.

    *Preferably from the U of Ruzomberok, Slovakia, whose diplomas are respected due to some commie-era deal

    I don't know about humanities, but I have experienced this exact system in Electrical Engineering and Informatics (which is, presumably, the E in STEM).

    One of the reasons I am kinda allergic to this kind of shit-talking.


  • Considered Harmful

    Official state form, provided in PDF form:

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    ✅ They used radio buttons so you can only fill in two answers.
    ❌ They only allow one answer per column not per row.

    (The questions are unrelated, by the way.)



  • @loopback0 said in WTF Bites:

    crappy language

    Features
    The DataFlex language supports:
    (...)
    No threads or multitasking

    That's an impressive feature!


  • Considered Harmful

    I got a new car earlier this year. It came with a free trial of SiriusXM. I thought it sucked; never used it.

    Since that trial expired I've been receiving nonstop emails, snail mails, and phone calls offering me deals to sign up. I've never seen someone so persistent.

    Fuck off, already.



  • @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    Am I close?

    • scientific computation: We did science things and compute things, just not necessary in that order ... but it wasn't in the field of scientific computing.
    • become a guest editor: yes. IIRC, it was to publish in their journal and to join their board.
    • International Advances in Junk Science: again IIRC, it was just the Journal of Science and Science (i.e. unspecifed)


  • @Zecc said in WTF Bites:

    As a ESL person to whom that looks fine, I feel deeply insulted.

    Interesting. You would use phrases like "deeply attracted" and "wholeheartedly" in one-off professional communication? To me that seems incredibly over the top, especially in the given context (nobody is "deeply attracted" to a paper...). "Wholeheartedly" would be something I could perhaps imagine being used in a job application, but even there I would consider it a bit much (somewhat depending on the context).

    But perhaps this a bit of a reflection of the field I'm in and the people I work with. We're not a very formal bunch. Writing like that will stick out, and identify the author as an outsider.


  • 🚽 Regular

    @cvi said in WTF Bites:

    You would use phrases like "deeply attracted" and "wholeheartedly" in one-off professional communication? To me that seems incredibly over the top, especially in the given context (nobody is "deeply attracted" to a paper...). "Wholeheartedly" would be something I could perhaps imagine being used in a job application, but even there I would consider it a bit much (somewhat depending on the context).

    I wouldn't, but I can imagine someone whose first language isn't English using those expressions as a direct translation of what might be acceptable idioms in some other unknown language.

    Which all things considered may very well be the case.



  • @cvi said in WTF Bites:

    nobody is "deeply attracted" to a paper

    One thing the internet has taught me (that I really don't want to know) is that there is a fetish for everything. Somebody, somewhere is "deeply attracted" to technical papers.



  • For some reason, Firefox has recently started behaving oddly when replying to TDWTF posts. (INB4: Replying to TDWTF posts is inherently odd behavior.) Pressing a key (typically Shift to start a sentence with a capital letter; I'm not 100% certain whether other keys trigger it, too, since that's how I start writing nearly 100% of my replies) opens dev tools to the cookies tab. But it seems to be only replies to a specific post, not general replies to a topic, like this post.

    Edit: And not always. Replying to this post, with or without quoting, doesn't trigger the behavior. Nor does trying to reply to @Zecc's post above. It seems like any time I try to determine under what conditions it occurs and what conditions it does not, the primary condition is if (testing) { dont_fail(); } 🤷♂


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:

    the primary condition is if (testing) { dont_fail(); } 🤷♂

    AKA the VW method.

    edit: I've not seen such behaviour in Firefox, FWIW.


  • ♿ (Parody)

    @cvi said in WTF Bites:

    @Zecc said in WTF Bites:

    As a ESL person to whom that looks fine, I feel deeply insulted.

    Interesting. You would use phrases like "deeply attracted" and "wholeheartedly" in one-off professional communication? To me that seems incredibly over the top, especially in the given context (nobody is "deeply attracted" to a paper...). "Wholeheartedly" would be something I could perhaps imagine being used in a job application, but even there I would consider it a bit much (somewhat depending on the context).

    The "wholeheartedly" doesn't seem completely absurd to me in there (maybe a bit out of place, but not in a hair on fire kind way) but "deeply attracted" makes no sense and tells me that someone is using a dictionary or machine translation or at least is not very good with English.



  • @Kamil-Podlesak said in WTF Bites:

    @BernieTheBernie said in WTF Bites:

    @anonymous234 said in WTF Bites:

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    "zh_CH" - what's that? Has Switzerland now its own version of Chinese?
    Or was my cow-orker Kevin ("en-EN") working on that software, too?

    What's wrong with en_EN? It's what Shakespeare used!

    Oh, that's the reason why MS .Net does not know it...



  • @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    But no, you need to go to the URL bar to edit in en_US there manually.

    What about your browser? Can't you just set the preferred languages to en / en-US / de-DE / de etc? It works with my old Firefox.



  • @BernieTheBernie said in WTF Bites:

    It works with my old Firefox.

    @Lorne-Kates, is that you?



  • @HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:

    @BernieTheBernie said in WTF Bites:

    It works with my old Firefox.

    @Lorne-Kates, is that you?

    "Old firefox" just means that you didn't let it update in the last 5 minutes or so.


  • BINNED

    @BernieTheBernie said in WTF Bites:

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    But no, you need to go to the URL bar to edit in en_US there manually.

    What about your browser? Can't you just set the preferred languages to en / en-US / de-DE / de etc? It works with my old Firefox.

    Maybe. Why would I want to do that?
    I’m fine with German on other pages as long as it’s not machine translated garbage.


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