WTF Bites


  • BINNED

    @Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:

    What, you mean you didn't know about WTDWTF: VR edition? You should really give a try. You can even pet the kneeling warthogs!

    error There’s an app for that.



  • @anonymous234 said in WTF Bites:

    Do Windows sysadmins no longer exist?

    There's an explicit FAQ about this.

    Q. Will there be Windows Server 2019 and SQL Server 2019 certifications available?
    A: No, there will not be Windows Server 2019 and SQL Server 2019 certifications. Windows Server 2019 and SQL Server 2019 content will be included in role-based certifications on an as-needed basis for certain job roles in the Azure Apps & Infrastructure and Data & AI solution areas.


  • Banned

    @HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:

    gesundheit, at least according to Google Translate

    What it really means is "cheers!"

    I won't say no to that 😁


  • BINNED

    @Gąska said in WTF Bites:

    @HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:

    gesundheit, at least according to Google Translate

    What it really means is "cheers!"

    I won't say no to that 😁

    Gesundheit, then! 🥂 🍻



  • Marvel launching something new apparently:

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    The word "knull" in Swedish roughly means "a fuck" (as in having sex -- it's much more specific and less versatile than the English counterpart), leading to some amount of hilarity. Good PR, though.



  • @cvi said in WTF Bites:

    Marvel launch something new apparently:

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    The word "knull" in Swedish roughly means "a fuck" (as in having sex -- it's much more specific and less versatile than the English counterpart), leading to some amount of hilarity. Good PR, though.

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    And on a baby wtf note, the word knull has as far as I know never ever meant jump. It is very explicitly just fuck/screw



  • @Carnage I used "roughly" because there are uses of "fuck" that can't be done with "knull", making it not be a 1:1 correspondence. But, fair, I guess?



  • @cvi said in WTF Bites:

    @Carnage I used "roughly" because there are uses of "fuck" that can't be done with "knull", making it not be a 1:1 correspondence. But, fair, I guess?

    I completely missed the text below the image. derp is I.



  • @HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:

    according to Google Translate

    @Gąska said in WTF Bites:

    What it really means is

    :surprised-pikachu:



  • @PleegWat said in WTF Bites:

    "Van Rijn" is actually the last name of famous Dutch painter Rembrandt.

    So at least one of his parents was a huge art nerd, or maybe an SF nerd: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_van_Rijn


  • Banned

    @HardwareGeek to be fair, it wasn't far off - the correct phrase is "na zdrowie".



  • @Gąska said in WTF Bites:

    na zdrowie

    🥃



  • Let's play count-the-WTFs!

    I deployed a website to the lab server. Except that the only two accessible ports on that server are occupied by RDP and MySQL (:wtf:), so by "deployed" I of course mean that the lab server runs an SSH connection with remote port forwarding to a cheap ARM single-board computer that I have at home with a reverse proxy on it (:wtf:).

    Meanwhile, there is of course no HTTPS (:wtf:) because there are no secrets involved and :kneeling_warthog:. As I'm verifying that this Frankenmoster of a deployment workslimps along as correctly as circumstances permit, I notice in uMatrix that my website tries to download a 3rd-party JavaScript from a domain that looks like an ad network (:wtf:). I also trigger a 404 just to see what happens and end up redirected to a fancy 404 page with more ads (:wtf:). A slightly panicked (am I pwned? has the framework package been compromised?) web search with domains involved suggests that my ISP is to blame.

    I miss the days when an ISP could be trusted to supply less infected pages than a random Tor exit node.



  • @anonymous234 said in WTF Bites:

    Do applications outside Azure no longer exist? What the hell are they thinking?

    No, everything is Azure now. It's too late for resistance, you've been assimilated.

    … on a more serious note, Microsoft wants to migrate everybody into Azure as much as possible, because it is much, much easier to ensure they get the money, so they want every admin to know the advantages of moving things in cloud even if they've been doing them locally just fine so far.


  • Notification Spam Recipient

    @aitap said in WTF Bites:

    that my ISP is to blame.

    As I was trying to enable IPv6 I discovered Cox fucks with your connection and will helpfully resolve non-existing domains for you! To the cox search page, natch.

    No, Cox, I'm not looking for manager, I'm looking for the computer named manager. Confusing, I know, but it's what I came up with a decade ago.



  • @aitap said in WTF Bites:

    I deployed a website to the lab server. Except that the only two accessible ports on that server are occupied by RDP and MySQL (:wtf:)…

    Is there no admin who could open a new port, are you doing something shady they don't want or are they idiots?

    Meanwhile, there is of course no HTTPS (:wtf:) because there are no secrets involved and :kneeling_warthog:.

    Web does not work without HTTPS any more. Half of the browser APIs will tell you to fuck off if you don't have HTTPS there days. Fortunately these days I always deploy with ingress-nginx and that creates a self-signed certificate for testing automatically (and makes installing the real certificates uniform).

    As I'm verifying that this Frankenmoster of a deployment workslimps along as correctly as circumstances permit, I notice in uMatrix that my website tries to download a 3rd-party JavaScript from a domain that looks like an ad network (:wtf:). I also trigger a 404 just to see what happens and end up redirected to a fancy 404 page with more ads (:wtf:). A slightly panicked (am I pwned? has the framework package been compromised?) web search with domains involved suggests that my ISP is to blame.

    How do they do that? If the page does not go through them, and if its your local server it shouldn't, they shouldn't be able to inject anything.

    @Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:

    As I was trying to enable IPv6 I discovered Cox fucks with your connection and will helpfully resolve non-existing domains for you! To the cox search page, natch.

    Well, you can always set your DNS to, after resolving any local stuff, go directly to 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4 or 1.1.1.1, or use the dns-over-https thing Mozilla is pushing. Or, I know this is heresy, set up your own recursive resolver.


  • Notification Spam Recipient

    @Bulb said in WTF Bites:

    @Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:

    As I was trying to enable IPv6 I discovered Cox fucks with your connection and will helpfully resolve non-existing domains for you! To the cox search page, natch.

    Well, you can always set your DNS to, after resolving any local stuff, go directly to 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4 or 1.1.1.1, or use the dns-over-https thing Mozilla is pushing. Or, I know this is heresy, set up your own recursive resolver.

    I did, it's set to my domain controllers normally, just for some reason if I didn't manually specify the IPv6 address in the DNS entries lists that the router is supposed to hand out, it would hand out the ISP's instead, leading to some unfortunate headaches and funtimes...


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @dkf said in WTF Bites:

    it's strongly recommended that practical message sizes are kept no larger than the Ethernetlowest intermediate MTU

    ~7 years ago.

    Norway.

    One of their 3G providers had an MTU of 1024. The other 3 were more enlightened. First provider silently dropped anything larger.

    We had to drop the MTU, because of the first one, across all of them (because, lowest common denominator) to 1000 (from 1500) because of this.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @BernieTheBernie said in WTF Bites:

    well, I know the "correct" English word is "vacuum cleaner",

    Hoover.

    Sorry - 'trademark?' What's one of those?


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:

    Ex-Intel engineer: Apple turned away from Intel over Skylake CPU bugs | ZDNet

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    A most interesting article...


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @cvi said in WTF Bites:

    Marvel launching something new apparently:

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    The word 'coming' doing double duty there, I presume, from the typeface being used?


  • Notification Spam Recipient

    @PJH said in WTF Bites:

    @cvi said in WTF Bites:

    Marvel launching something new apparently:

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    The word 'coming' doing double duty there, I presume, from the typeface being used?

    I think it's the working title of a porn series.


  • :belt_onion:

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    @El_Heffe said in WTF Bites:

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    Fresh load:

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  • @Bulb said in WTF Bites:

    Is there no admin who could open a new port, are you doing something shady they don't want or are they idiots?

    There's a department firewall somewhere, and I don't know whom to e-mail to have the ports opened.

    Web does not work without HTTPS any more.

    I'll get around to letsencrypting it once we do the rest of it properly, including getting a department domain name.

    How do they do that? If the page does not go through them, and if its your local server it shouldn't, they shouldn't be able to inject anything.

    Perhaps I didn't formulate it well. I wasn't at home at the time, so It's the mobile ISP that injects the nasties.


  • BINNED

    Ordering something on Amazon:

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    It has the usual shipping options:

    • Free "premium" shipping if you get "Prime student" (I'm not a student). Like a good drug dealer, the first fix is always free.
    • Free standard shipping. Arrives either Wed 8th or Thu 9th.
    • Premium shipping. Arrives anywhere between Tue 7th (1 day earlier) or Wed 15th (6 days later). Yeah, I'm absolutely going to pay for later shipping. Great deal. (Actually, unlike the other option, it says "and". So maybe that means they split the order in two and I definitely get one half on Tuesday and the other a week later? Even better!)

    Of course, like any sane person I select the standard free shipping. Now let's look at the price:
    Items: 41.45€
    Shipping: 5.89€
    Subtotal: 47.34€
    Coupon applied: -2.89€
    Total: 44.45€

    Um ok, WTF. I haven't applied any kind of coupon, so I can only assume they mean the free shipping. But then that is less than the shipping, so it ends up not being free at all. :wtf:


  • ♿ (Parody)

    @Carnage said in WTF Bites:

    @cvi said in WTF Bites:

    Marvel launch something new apparently:

    54d25518-0ba0-4720-ac2d-14e4c59ad151-image.png

    The word "knull" in Swedish roughly means "a fuck" (as in having sex -- it's much more specific and less versatile than the English counterpart), leading to some amount of hilarity. Good PR, though.

    4b0c3d57-a835-42eb-aeb0-193d30747fe4-image.png

    And on a baby wtf note, the word knull has as far as I know never ever meant jump. It is very explicitly just fuck/screw

    I don't know if this is why that shows up or not but it's what I thought of:

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  • @Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:

    No, Cox, I'm not looking for manager, I'm looking for the computer named manager.

    :karen:



  • @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    Free standard shipping. Arrives either Wed 8th or Thu 9th.
    Premium shipping. Arrives anywhere between Tue 7th (1 day earlier) or Wed 15th (6 days later). Yeah, I'm absolutely going to pay for later shipping. Great deal. (Actually, unlike the other option, it says "and". So maybe that means they split the order in two and I definitely get one half on Tuesday and the other a week later? Even better!)

    I had a similar thing a little while ago: Ordered something on the weekend, and the options were standard free prime shipping which would be guaranteed on Wed-Thurs of the following week, or "one day" upgraded prime shipping which had the range Monday - next Sunday.

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    Um ok, WTF. I haven't applied any kind of coupon, so I can only assume they mean the free shipping. But then that is less than the shipping, so it ends up not being free at all.

    One of your items may have a built-in coupon applied to it. Why they sometimes do it this way, and sometimes just normally lower the price, :who_nose:


  • BINNED

    @hungrier said in WTF Bites:

    One of your items may have a built-in coupon applied to it. Why they sometimes do it this way, and sometimes just normally lower the price, :who_nose:

    But then why is the free shipping still 5 bucks?!



  • @aitap said in WTF Bites:

    @Bulb said in WTF Bites:

    How do they do that? If the page does not go through them, and if its your local server it shouldn't, they shouldn't be able to inject anything.

    Perhaps I didn't formulate it well. I wasn't at home at the time, so It's the mobile ISP that injects the nasties.

    Oh, so that just shows why browser vendors are pushing everybody to HTTPS and including that DNS-over-HTTPS.


  • :belt_onion:

    @Bulb said in WTF Bites:

    @aitap said in WTF Bites:

    @Bulb said in WTF Bites:

    How do they do that? If the page does not go through them, and if its your local server it shouldn't, they shouldn't be able to inject anything.

    Perhaps I didn't formulate it well. I wasn't at home at the time, so It's the mobile ISP that injects the nasties.

    Oh, so that just shows why browser vendors are pushing everybody to HTTPS and including that DNS-over-HTTPS.

    NOOO you can't https everything how else will we inject ads into your pages????

    haha encryption machine go brrrrrr


  • Notification Spam Recipient

    @sloosecannon said in WTF Bites:

    haha encryption machine go brrrrrr

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    "When everyone's encrypted... no one is... 📨 : "



  • Are these people trying to be funny? I ordered some late dinner yesterday that never arrived ...

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    It was just delivered. Thanks I guess? (Restaurant was open till 23.00 yesterday, so it's not like 21.51 was too late for them.

    Also.. the pickup time on the receipt says 22:07, so, like what ... was that food standing around for a day somewhere now? :wtf:

    Edit: The last part really bugs me. It's (nice) food, and I hate throwing away good food. OTOH, I'm not really in the mood for random food poisoning (it's a pretty rare mood to be in, to be entirely honest). So ... risk it or not? Packaging looked reasonably sealed (and the way the restaurant does it), contents were hot (if reheated, then individually and properly), and salad looks fresh.



  • Today I had discussion with a colleague about a database that has a primary key consisting of an UUID together with an user-entered identification.

    I asked if there is any chance that you can have two entries with the same UUID but a different user-entered identification. We could not come up with any scenario. My colleague also couldn't imagine anything better than a fear that a UUID might not be really unique.



  • @Bulb said in WTF Bites:

    pushing everybody to HTTPS and including that DNS-over-HTTPS

    While HTTPS definitely improves things, it's not that people can't be screwed over with that in place. It's more subtle; the potential for shenanigans is shifted from local ISPs but not taken away. For example, how many HTTPS-protected websites use Cloudflare as what essentially is a benevolent MITM? How many non-Cloudflare & non-Google DoH providers are there?



  • @aitap The legal relationship is much better aligned there though. Since the site operator hires and pays the delivery network, it's their interest not to break the site in any way. Because they can be replaced (besides Cloudflare and Google there is Microsoft, Amazon and a couple of somewhat smaller ones like OVH).


  • Notification Spam Recipient

    Status: This piece of shit software thinks a 201 response is a failure.

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    What garbage....



  • @Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:

    This piece of shit software thinks a 201 response is a failure.

    You sure? Maybe it's just bored; after all, It tells you right there that it retried for no reason... 🐠



  • @Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:

    This piece of shit software thinks a 201 response is a failure.

    So? Everybody knows that the success response is 500 OK 🐠



  • Naming is hard. So why does Microsoft have to make it harder. It's hard enough already, OK.
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    The name is used as a sub-domain, but that wouldn't preclude kebab-case. More generally, every kind of resource in Azure has different naming rules.



  • @Grunnen said in WTF Bites:

    database ... UUID

    Oracle perhaps? They were shown to be capable of creating duplicate Guids...


  • Banned

    @Grunnen said in WTF Bites:

    Today I had discussion with a colleague about a database that has a primary key consisting of an UUID together with an user-entered identification.

    I asked if there is any chance that you can have two entries with the same UUID but a different user-entered identification. We could not come up with any scenario. My colleague also couldn't imagine anything better than a fear that a UUID might not be really unique.

    While UUID really should have been named HUID, it's still dangerous to have such primary key - because even if duplicate UUID should never happen, there can still be a bug that does that anyway. And you don't want that bug to corrupt your database - especially since I'm absolutely sure that somewhere in the system, there's a silent, undocumented assumption that all UUIDs are unique.


  • 🚽 Regular

    @Gąska said in WTF Bites:

    somewhere in the system, there's a silent, undocumented assumption that all UUIDs are unique

    Like... everywhere?


  • Banned

    @Zecc you'd be surprised how much of the system would happily churn along, anally raping critical data everywhere.



  • @BernieTheBernie Oi, that's pretty bad. And in our system a duplicate key could in theory lead to death of humans. But if that would be the case, then why isn't the 'user generated identification' usually fixed per client, and not e.g. a sequential number? Questions, questions...



  • @Gąska How many times did this bite Microsoft in the arse? Because they have everything keyed with UUIDs (they are calling them GUIDs, but that's just their naming deviation) and they do generally assume they are unique across all tables and not-exactly-tables.


  • 🚽 Regular

    @Gąska On the contrary, I'd be surprised if any system anywhere somehow managed to avoid "garbage in, garbage out"



  • @Zecc said in WTF Bites:

    @Gąska On the contrary, I'd be surprised if any system anywhere somehow managed to avoid "garbage in, garbage out"

    För the last 8 or so years, I've had people unironically suggest having AI to fix bad and missing data, because AI is magic, in every project I've worked on.


  • Banned

    @Bulb said in WTF Bites:

    @Gąska How many times did this bite Microsoft in the arse? Because they have everything keyed with UUIDs (they are calling them GUIDs, but that's just their naming deviation) and they do generally assume they are unique across all tables and not-exactly-tables.

    I bet they made them proper simple, non-composite primary keys, though.

    And if Linux repo had SHA1 collisions with real consequences, I don't believe MS didn't have GUID collisions - especially since GUID is significantly shorter than SHA1.


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