Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!
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@HardwareGeek said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
How are they planning to pay for this, raise our taxes by 2.5x?
No. These are democrats. They'll raise the taxes on the "rich" by 100x.
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@HardwareGeek said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
This is two days old, but I don't remember seeing it posted here (although that could be just my memory failure):
the need to maintain social distancing ... takes precedence over people's rights to exercise their First Amendment rights of free speech and assembly.
we're in a pandemic and executive orders have been issued, these are laws that have been passed down through executive order
And those laws are unconstitutional and invalid. Depriving someone of their constitutionally guaranteed rights is a criminal offense under Section 242 of Title 18:
Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, ...
NYC has over 8.3 million residents who are being deprived of their constitutional rights. I'd like to see De Blasio charged with 8.3 million counts of violating Section 242, with a possible prison term of up to 1 year per violation.
Also,
New York City mayor De Blasio blasted for strolling through Brooklyn's Prospect Park with wife
New York City resident tells De Blasio that his trip to park outside of his home borough is 'epitome of non-essential travel.'
Rules for thee but not for me.
Fucking hell. I can't wait to get out of this place.
It's in the 40s today, but first weekend that reaches 90 degrees, there will be a lot of people outside "not" protesting.
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@topspin said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Today’s numbers for Germany: 690 new cases. The numbers seem to be superposed with a roughly weekly sawtooth pattern (I assume reporting artifacts) that is at its minimum currently, but nothing significant.
So unless we get a new wave in two weeks, the numbers look really good.We did get the weekly uptick exactly at the day I predicted, but it was quite a bit larger then I expected. New estimate for reproduction rate has also risen from 0.7 to 1.1. Hopefully that’s just random and not yet the effects of the recently loosened restrictions.
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@topspin I have very little faith in the point estimates of R. There's just too much noise at the small scale. Plus the tests are still kinda wack. Lots of false positives.
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And of course there’s reports of protests with e.g. 2000 people in Nuremberg not wearing masks and
not keeping distancerandomly hugging each other. With retarded demands like “no forced vaccination” (there isn’t even a vaccine, what are you talking about) and “I decide about my body, not Bill Gates” (TDEMSYR).
People need to stop smoking Tide pods.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@topspin I have very little faith in the point estimates of R. There's just too much noise at the small scale. Plus the tests are still kinda wack. Lots of false positives.
Yes, I don’t know how much they averaged it. Estimates on individual points are garbage.
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@topspin said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Bill Gates
Somewhere, George Soros and the Rothschild family are smiling because the conspiracy idiots have found a new target for their hatred.
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@dfdub said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@topspin said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Bill Gates
Somewhere, George Soros and the Rothschild family are smiling because the conspiracy idiots have found a new target for their hatred.
Their nanobots stand no chance against Gates' advanced 5G technology.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@topspin I have very little faith in the point estimates of R. There's just too much noise at the small scale. Plus the tests are still kinda wack. Lots of false positives.
At https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html they have a bar graph for the daily new cases, but I have wished that somewhere there was a "Past 7 Days" bar graph to help eliminate the noise.
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Just asked someone on Facebook if he had any kind of source for his claim that facemasks are dangerous due to a supposed accumulation of carbon dioxide.
He finally provided a link. To a German Snopes-equivalent, of all places.
Which naturally had the complete and opposite content, namely: For an overwhelmingly large majority of people there's no danger at all.
I'm not sure what went wrong in this particular train of thought of his.
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@Rhywden saw an article with the right headline, didn't notice it's a question and forgot about Betteridge's law?
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@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Just asked someone on Facebook if he had any kind of source for his claim that facemasks are dangerous due to a supposed accumulation of carbon dioxide.
He finally provided a link. To a German Snopes-equivalent, of all places.
Which naturally had the complete and opposite content, namely: For an overwhelmingly large majority of people there's no danger at all.
I'm not sure what went wrong in this particular train of thought of his.
I have seen that kind of phenomenon here on more than one occasion. People will disagree with a precise point that someone makes. When asked for their source, they will toss in a Wikipedia link or something on the general subject, not the specific point. When pressed for where in the article the specific point was addressed, they'll pick a random sentence from the article having nothing to do with the point. And then the ooga-booga minds will upvote it.
And this is from people who generally appear to believe what they argue, not from dedicated trolls.
In sum, people who must be forcefully pressed to provide a reference, may provide something vaguely related, but they are counting on the onlookers not following closely enough to notice their deception.
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@Karla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Fucking hell. I can't wait to get out of this place.
It's in the 40s today, but first weekend that reaches 90 degrees, there will be a lot of people outside "not" protesting.
We were having (calculates) mid 70s yesterday, and have mid 40s today, with temperatures predicted to fall as the day goes on. Brrr...
But it has been nice to sit outside (suburbs, so in the garden) with a coffee or having lunch. Made the whole lockdown thing a lot more tolerable.
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@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Just asked someone on Facebook if he had any kind of source for his claim that facemasks are dangerous due to a supposed accumulation of carbon dioxide.
He finally provided a link. To a German Snopes-equivalent, of all places.
Which naturally had the complete and opposite content, namely: For an overwhelmingly large majority of people there's no danger at all.
I'm not sure what went wrong in this particular train of thought of his.
Possibly:
Breathing with a mask is harder.
Breath is CO2.
Being hard to breathe means the mask holds on to breath.
CO2 is dangerous!
Lets find a source which matches my query. No need to read it, I am correct!
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@jinpa I also was so nice to provide him with a link to a Nature study where they found no significant (as in: approaching problematic levels) buildup of carbon dioxide in children when using N95 masks during regular activities. Which means that home-made masks should be even less problematic.
Of course after that he resorted to straight trolling how we were "switching off our brains" and similar crap.
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@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Of course after that he resorted to straight trolling how we were "switching off our brains" and similar crap.
That's from all the quarantine drinking, not the masks.
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@jinpa said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Just asked someone on Facebook if he had any kind of source for his claim that facemasks are dangerous due to a supposed accumulation of carbon dioxide.
He finally provided a link. To a German Snopes-equivalent, of all places.
Which naturally had the complete and opposite content, namely: For an overwhelmingly large majority of people there's no danger at all.
I'm not sure what went wrong in this particular train of thought of his.
I have seen that kind of phenomenon here on more than one occasion. People will disagree with a precise point that someone makes. When asked for their source, they will toss in a Wikipedia link or something on the general subject, not the specific point. When pressed for where in the article the specific point was addressed, they'll pick a random sentence from the article having nothing to do with the point. And then the ooga-booga minds will upvote it.
And this is from people who generally appear to believe what they argue, not from dedicated trolls.
In sum, people who must be forcefully pressed to provide a reference, may provide something vaguely related, but they are counting on the onlookers not following closely enough to notice their deception.
Yeah, but considering in this very thread you yourself played the game of taking a coherent argument and then asking to be provided a specific
wordsentence instead, then also ignoring that when actually being provided with it, I'm going to take your observation with a grain of salt.
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@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Of course after that he resorted to straight trolling how we were "switching off our brains" and similar crap.
That's from all the quarantine drinking, not the masks.
Are the polymers in masks soluble in alcohol? Maybe they need to take them off before drinking.
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@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Of course after that he resorted to straight trolling how we were "switching off our brains" and similar crap.
Sounds like he's getting well ahead of the curve on the "switching off our brains" front.
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@topspin said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Yeah, but considering in this very thread you
yourself played the game of taking a coherentresponded to a flawed argumentand thenby asking to be provided a specificwordsentence instead, then also ignoring that when actually being provided with it, I'm going to take your observation with a grain of salt.I cannot control how other people take my correct and consistent observations. I can say that when I realize that someone's hostility level exceeds their comprehension level that I stop paying attention to them.
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@jinpa said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@topspin said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Yeah, but considering in this very thread you
yourself played the game of taking a coherentresponded to a flawed argumentand thenby asking to be provided a specificwordsentence instead, then also ignoring that when actually being provided with it, I'm going to take your observation with a grain of salt.I cannot control how other people take my correct and consistent observations. I can say that when I realize that someone's hostility level exceeds their comprehension level that I stop paying attention to them.
Can you provide a specific word to prove that?
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@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I'm not sure what went wrong in this particular train of thought of his.
Simple.
Facebook
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UK lockdown has been relaxed slightly.
From the comments in one Discord server that I'm in, you'd think the Government had gone "Fuck it, let's remove all lockdown and go back to normal".
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@loopback0
There is, after all, no middle ground between "everyone" sheltering in place and killing everyone.
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@dkf said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Karla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Fucking hell. I can't wait to get out of this place.
It's in the 40s today, but first weekend that reaches 90 degrees, there will be a lot of people outside "not" protesting.
We were having (calculates) mid 70s yesterday, and have mid 40s today, with temperatures predicted to fall as the day goes on. Brrr...
But it has been nice to sit outside (suburbs, so in the garden) with a coffee or having lunch. Made the whole lockdown thing a lot more tolerable.
We had snow in the forecast and when we were walking the dog, there was hail.
Snow and hail in MAY!?!?!
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@Karla
The weatherman's been locked down for 2 months too, you know...
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@Karla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@dkf said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Karla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Fucking hell. I can't wait to get out of this place.
It's in the 40s today, but first weekend that reaches 90 degrees, there will be a lot of people outside "not" protesting.
We were having (calculates) mid 70s yesterday, and have mid 40s today, with temperatures predicted to fall as the day goes on. Brrr...
But it has been nice to sit outside (suburbs, so in the garden) with a coffee or having lunch. Made the whole lockdown thing a lot more tolerable.
We had snow in the forecast and when we were walking the dog, there was hail.
Snow and hail in MAY!?!?!
Around here, that's not particularly unusual.
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@izzion said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@loopback0
There is, after all, nomiddle grounddifference between "everyone" sheltering in place and killing everyone.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
He's wearing gloves and a face mask, in any case.
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@loopback0 said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
UK lockdown has been relaxed slightly.
As it says in that news item, England’s lockdown has, not the UK’s.
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@Gurth said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@loopback0 said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
UK lockdown has been relaxed slightly.
As it says in that news item, England’s lockdown has, not the UK’s.
England's lockdown has been relaxed further, but there have been changes across the UK.
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@loopback0 said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
UK lockdown has been relaxed slightly.
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@error said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@hungrier said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I like that the only response is
That's 500 OK to you! Get your memes right!
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In this week of looser restrictions, more shops and other things have opened up again. Previously, only shops up to 800m^2 were allowed (which was arbitrary and didn’t make much sense, but the goal there was just to not open everything up at once, so some arbitrary measure was good enough), now they’re allowed to open too. Also, I think restaurants can open again, with strong requirements. That’s good news, even if they’re probably still struggling.
Another thing that apparently is allowed again is gyms. Which couldn’t get any more non-essential IMO and I find it hard to believe that they will in any way manage to obey the distance and hygiene rules. Then the news showed a gym making a big event of opening up at midnight Sun/Mon (when the changes took effect), and a huge line of people outside waiting to go in once it opened. Like, WTF, do you guys not need to sleep or work or anything like that?!
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@topspin The gyms must be a state thing. Hamburg's gyms definitely are not open and there are no definite plans to do so, according to a statement from mine from today.
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@topspin said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Then the news showed a gym making a big event of opening up at midnight Sun/Mon (when the changes took effect), and a huge line of people outside waiting to go in once it opened. Like, WTF, do you guys not need to sleep or work or anything like that?!
I generally go to sleep between 1am and 2am even when working the following day.
If I was the sort of person to go to a gym (and these days I'm not) then it'd be easy enough to go the gym at midnight and then shower, home, bed in time to wake up again at 7am-ish.
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Just saw this come up on my FB page
No to mandatory vaccines
Say yes to life!
You won't be saying "yes to life" for long at that rate.
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@DoctorJones I assume the one in Hyde Park is the original because it's the only one where the location is correctly centred and in the same font and colour.
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@loopback0 You may want to crop out potentially private parts of the picture (if that's your screenshot and not something that's already widely distributed like this)
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@topspin said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@loopback0 You may want to crop out potentially private parts of the picture (if that's your screenshot and not something that's already widely distributed like this)
Not my screenshot. I found it like that on Twitter.
I'd crop it properly but also I'm not the sort of weirdo who doesn't use dark mode on iOS.
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@loopback0 said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@topspin said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@loopback0 You may want to crop out potentially private parts of the picture (if that's your screenshot and not something that's already widely distributed like this)
Not my screenshot. I found it like that on Twitter.
I'd crop it properly but also I'm
notthe sort of weirdo whodoesn't useuses dark mode on iOS at 16:52.
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@topspin said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@loopback0 said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@topspin said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@loopback0 You may want to crop out potentially private parts of the picture (if that's your screenshot and not something that's already widely distributed like this)
Not my screenshot. I found it like that on Twitter.
I'd crop it properly but also I'm
notthe sort of weirdo whodoesn't useuses dark mode on iOS at 16:52.Automatic switching of light and dark mode based on time of day?! Eew.
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@DoctorJones said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
You won't be saying "yes to life" for long at that rate.
Or at least .1% won't be. And it might not be for them anyway.
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@topspin said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Then the news showed a gym making a big event of opening up at midnight Sun/Mon (when the changes took effect), and a huge line of people outside waiting to go in once it opened. Like, WTF, do you guys not need to sleep or work or anything like that?!
A lot of people don't nowadays. You know, pandemic.
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