WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else
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@Zecc said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Benjamin-Hall Are you fin ished?
I didn't do it on porpoise. I did it just for the halibut.
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@Benjamin-Hall You must be squidding...
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Benjamin-Hall You must be squidding...
You can't hide the truth just by spraying ink everywhere. I'm totally prepared for the waves of displeasure at all my marine jokes.
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@Benjamin-Hall Gotta carp out sometime...
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@levicki I know you didn't ask for help, but you're not Blakey, so I hope you'll appreciate it anyway.
No warranty implied or whatever yada yada.
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@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Such a great logic right there
What did you expect, it's Windows Update
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@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Gąska said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@levicki I know you didn't ask for help, but you're not Blakey, so I hope you'll appreciate it anyway.
Are you sure you want to help me though?
See the disclaimer.
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@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
which I fully removed from the image after install because I don't use it.
Someone point and laugh at this man for daring to do this. You know, like you've done to me. Don't want my experience to be singular you know.
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@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
I already figured out what missing thing it is choking on -- it wants to update Windows Defender which I fully removed from the image after install because I don't use it.
Oh my god. I've learned my lesson a very hard way to never ever ever EVER mess with the default Windows intallation contents if I ever plan on using Windows Update, Service Packs, language packs, Office, and just for safety, anything else from Microsoft. These few gigabytes saved aren't worth the ABSOLUTE PAIN of debugging the weirdest problems.
For once, Microsoft wasn't at fault here. If there is no built-in option to skip some components from installing, they're under no obligation to support installs that don't have those components.
Edit: @Tsaukpaetra done.
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@Gąska said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Edit: @Tsaukpaetra done.
Appreciated.
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@Gąska said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
If there is no built-in option to skip some components from installing, they're under no obligation to support installs that don't have those components.
They seem to fail to support installs that have all components anyway
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@TimeBandit yes, but it's just so rare for Windows Update to fail for a valid reason - let them have it!
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@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
I intentionally fucked up my windows and now it doesn't work properly
Oh
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Don't want my experience to be singular you know.
That's new.
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@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Don't want my experience to be singular you know.
That's new.
@boomzilla wants his alts to share experiences. This isn't new.
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@Zerosquare That's probably the one that hit me last night. I got "Windows was unable to start ..." My computer was given to me by a former employer, who would otherwise have scrapped it, and Windows was installed by their IT using their standard corporate image, so I don't have the installation media Windows wanted me to insert. Fortunately, "Start Windows normally" worked, regardless of whatever error made Windows think it was corrupt, and the reboot after further configuration was successful, although it did sit at the "preparing to configure" screen for a looong time. I was worried; I didn't want to have to go buy a retail version of Windows at 22:00.
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@Benjamin-Hall I hate you.
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Benjamin-Hall I hate you.
Let the hate flow though you.
Oh, and join the dark side. We have cookies.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
We have cookies.
I have cookies, too. I can eat them, because they're gluten-free. Yours are worthless to me, because I can't eat them.
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@HardwareGeek ok, if the only cookies you can eat are GF... You don't need any further torment. You're already in hell.
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@Gąska said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
What is this, 2015?
My T42 laptops called. They say it's actually 2001. They also say the CMOS battery is dead.
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@Benjamin-Hall GF cookies, at least some of them, are not bad. Other things, like bread and pizza crust, are far worse.
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@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
In other words, something in the servicing stack changed, and I dont see that as an improvement.
In other words, YOU RELIED ON UNDOCUMENTED BEHAVIOR AND NOW YOU'RE ANGRY THAT UNDOCUMENTED BEHAVIOR CHANGED.
It's because of people like you why we can't have nice things.
Reason why I think it isn't an improvement is that if the oackages I removed were so crucial for the update to be deemed successful then Windows Update should be able to fetch them from WU server and repair the image, then apply the update.
Do you want WU to do Steam-like integrity check and undo every removal you've done on each update check, or what?
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@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Yes I've done the horrible, unimagjnable thing of daring to remove "system" component.
You say that as if I haven't...
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@Tsaukpaetra explains all your troubles installing VMs.
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@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
If they nade them uninstallable and reinstallable in the first place like the store apps can be provisioned (or how you control other features such as RSAT, languages, etc) this wouldn't be a problem at all.
Think of all the security holes that would be created if Windows Store apps were given the power of Windows Defender (which is a prerequisite for making WD a WS app.)
Seriously. Windows isn't Linux. It's a monolithic product. It's not meant to be sliced and diced however you want. You can't be mad that they don't handle gracefully a situation where you drill a giant hole in its guts in an completely unsupported way. You rip the seal, you don't get the warranty.
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@Gąska said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Seriously. Windows isn't Linux. It's a monolithic product. It's not meant to be sliced and diced however you want.
I guess you never used the embedded version of Windows. Because that's exactly what it does: allow you to keep precisely what you want and remove what you don't. And it's not just applications, but also drivers and subsystems of the OS.
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@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
how you control other features such as RSAT
Yeah, that's been broken on my machine for so long I just spin up a spare Windows Server VM rather than deal with the shitstorm that happens when trying to "add" the "feature".
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@TimeBandit wow, there's a lot of stupid in the comments there. So many people talking about disabling the service or blocking the update. Guys, it's a single message, and frankly, it's really probably a good thing to full-screen notify you about. And if you close it, it's gone.
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
GF cookies
Girlfriend cookies? Is this something like girl scout cookies? Or something for @error 's lifestyle thread?
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@sloosecannon said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
And if you close it, it's gone.
But is it gone.... forever????
:gopher.png:
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@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
I never had a problem with updates despite removing Defender and some other simple stuff
Up and until now.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@sloosecannon said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
And if you close it, it's gone.
But is it gone.... forever????
:gopher.png:
Well that's the impression I get, yes. Oh noez the microsoft can writes the messages.
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@sloosecannon said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@sloosecannon said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
And if you close it, it's gone.
But is it gone.... forever????
:gopher.png:
Well that's the impression I get, yes. Oh noez the microsoft can writes the messages.
But... that sounds.... so unlike them...
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@sloosecannon said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Guys, it's a single message, and frankly, it's really probably a good thing to full-screen notify you about. And if you close it, it's gone.
Are we sure about that?
I seem to remember that last time when you clicked the close button on the window it interpreted that as “downgrade to Windows 10”.
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@Luhmann said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
girl scout cookies
Are they made out of real girl scouts?
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@PleegWat No, they are cookies which go out scouting for girls.
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@Zecc said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
cookies which go out scouting for girls.
from the back of an unmarked, white van obviously
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@Luhmann Not a wine red van marked 'free candy'?
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@PleegWat said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Luhmann Not a wine red van marked 'free
candycookies'?
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@PleegWat said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Not a wine red van marked 'free candy'?
Not since I painted the van white
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@Zerosquare said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Gąska said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Seriously. Windows isn't Linux. It's a monolithic product. It's not meant to be sliced and diced however you want.
I guess you never used the embedded version of Windows. Because that's exactly what it does: allow you to keep precisely what you want and remove what you don't. And it's not just applications, but also drivers and subsystems of the OS.
Windows Embedded is a separate product.
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@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Gąska No it is not -- it is the same Windows you out of your ignorance see as monolithic, with features made optional and removable.
Have you seen the codebase?
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@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
No it is not
You might regret it but it's up to Microsoft to decide and since there is no add/remove interface for those components they should be considered as part of the full os.
But just keep walking into the wall and calling everybody dumb for using the door.
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I had a scan of a receipt that I needed to upload to create an expense report. Oops...bigger than the software allows. It was a png, so I figured I'd open it up in...something...and re-save it as a jpg to shave off a few MBs.
Both Photos' (which doesn't have an obvious way to change the format) and Paint 3D's Save As go by default to some bullshit default directory instead of the directory from where I opened the original damn file (via Explorer, of course)! Grr.
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@Luhmann said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
But just keep walking into the wall and calling everybody dumb for using the door.
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@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Both Photos' (which doesn't have an obvious way to change the format) and Paint 3D's Save As go by default to some bullshit default directory instead of the directory from where I opened the original damn file (via Explorer, of course)! Grr.
Photos and Paint 3D are so crude and primitive that they are mostly useless, so I'm not surprised when behave differently from 99.9% of all the other software in existence. And Microsoft seems to be a bunch of pricks who like to do things for no apparent reason other than fuck you.
The bigger problem with stupid defaults, and its not just Microsoft, is that NOBODY seems to be able to grasp the concept of a source directory (File -> Open) and a destination directory (File ->Save) and allow them to have different defaults:
File Open
Navigate to directory A and select a file
Do stuff
File Save As
Defaults to directory A (last directory used)
Don't want that, navigate to directory B and save file
File Open
Defaults to directory B (last directory used)
Don't want that, navigate back to directory A for the file I want
Do Stuff
File Save As
Defaults to directory A
Have to navigate to directory B and save file....and so on
I seems obvious to me but I guess I'm the only person in the universe who does that.