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I got the new Pixel 4 yesterday. I have no back button now, and years of muscle memory from the forums swiping in from the sides to open notifications and chat now has me constantly going back instead.
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@Polygeekery They've really been doing a number on UI stuff in the past few Android revisions. First they went from the familiar three button layout to a two-and-a-half-with-swiping layout that doesn't take up any less screen space but is more confusing, to what is apparently a gesture-based system but a completely ass-backwards one that screws up a decade worth of software that used side swiping for something other than the back button.
e: and they're also forcing icons to have stupid shapes around them, but thankfully third-party launchers can still ignore this idiocy.
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
I got the new Pixel 4 yesterday. I have no back button now, and years of muscle memory from the forums swiping in from the sides to open notifications and chat now has me constantly going back instead.
yeah.... imma stick with my pixel 3 for now...... here's hoping that much like the original Star Trek movies they manage to make a good one every other release
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yeah.... imma stick with my pixel 3 for now......
Until the volundatory upgrade?
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I got an invite for a video meeting with
LyncSkype with inverted colorsSkype for Business. When I visited the link on a windows box I got presented with two options:- Install and join with Skype Meetings App (web)
- Join with Skype for Business (desktop)
My first impression from this was that the second option is a platform specific client which you can install and the first one is a simple web page based version. But wait, why does the first say install? The link is actually to an .msi file, so I'm not sure what part of that is "web".
I don't have admin permissions on this Windows box and anyways it's not what I want to use, so let's try it from my Linux workstation. Open the same link and instead of the two options I now get a message saying that everything is ready and a new window of the "Skype Meetings App" has opened. Well, it hasn't.
There is no link to the (presumably) platform-specific desktop client, and clicking the troubleshoot link for re-installing the "Skype Meetings App (web)" again gives me the .msi download. On Linux.
Let's try directly going to the home page of lync.com for the desktop client: get redirected to a page on products.office.com about "Upgrade from Skype for Business Online to Microsoft Teams in Office 365".
I don't want to go full @Levicki, but if fucking porn sites can get a pure HTML/JS video chat site going, why can't Microsoft?
That a web version wouldn't really help me because I assume it can't do screen sharing is merely tangential.
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I don't want to go full @Levicki, but if fucking porn sites can get a pure HTML/JS video chat site going, why can't Microsoft?
I'll go there:
Pornhub is Skype for Business for sluts!
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if fucking porn sites can get a pure HTML/JS video chat site going, why can't Microsoft?
Not nearly as much demand.
Also, mandatory pointing out that all porn sites are fucking porn sites.
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Also, mandatory pointing out that all porn sites are fucking porn sites.
Not necessarily, fetish porn may very well skip the fucking bit and I'd be surprised if there aren't any pure fetish porn sites around.
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Also, mandatory pointing out that all porn sites are fucking porn sites.
@error_bot xkcd porn for women
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@levicki said in WTF Bites:
@Polygeekery But removing stuff takes courage... no wait, that's the other phone brand's motto.
Well, it also doesn't have a headphone jack and relies on a USB-C to 3.5mm adapter to regain that functionality. So there's that....
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
@levicki said in WTF Bites:
@Polygeekery But removing stuff takes courage... no wait, that's the other phone brand's motto.
Well, it also doesn't have a headphone jack and relies on a USB-C to 3.5mm adapter to regain that functionality. So there's that....
That goes back at least to the Pixel 2 in the Pixel lineage.
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@boomzilla said in WTF Bites:
@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
@levicki said in WTF Bites:
@Polygeekery But removing stuff takes courage... no wait, that's the other phone brand's motto.
Well, it also doesn't have a headphone jack and relies on a USB-C to 3.5mm adapter to regain that functionality. So there's that....
That goes back at least to the Pixel 2 in the Pixel lineage.
Yeah. The big thing I'm not happy about with my (aging) Pixel 2. And the adapter never worked well for me at all, so I had to get wireless headphones for the rare occasions I need them. And replace the head unit in my car with one that can do Bluetooth (which I was probably going to do anyway, but...)
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I activated our phones last night and this morning both of them had their SIMs locked. Two hours on the phone with Sprint to get that rectified, which involved resetting lots of shit and installing a eSIM.
On the bright side, they did an account review and because raisins and my account being a business account, I get a free iPad with free data service. I pay $125 and they credit that to my account within three billing cycles so the iPad is effectively free. I really don't understand some of Sprint's promotions. When I opened this account I got something like $75 for every line of service I opened, all of the lines past 3 had free unlimited service and I got free phones also. All in I made something like $500-600 and ended up opening 4-5 extra lines that I didn't actually need. I kept waiting for the catch on that one and it turned out that there wasn't one. Just free shit.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in WTF Bites:
@boomzilla said in WTF Bites:
@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
@levicki said in WTF Bites:
@Polygeekery But removing stuff takes courage... no wait, that's the other phone brand's motto.
Well, it also doesn't have a headphone jack and relies on a USB-C to 3.5mm adapter to regain that functionality. So there's that....
That goes back at least to the Pixel 2 in the Pixel lineage.
Yeah. The big thing I'm not happy about with my (aging) Pixel 2. And the adapter never worked well for me at all, so I had to get wireless headphones for the rare occasions I need them. And replace the head unit in my car with one that can do Bluetooth (which I was probably going to do anyway, but...)
I still have the adapter right in front of me on my desk (it wanders around there, like everything else on my desk) but I've never actually used it.
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@levicki said in WTF Bites:
Joke is on you but I regularily visit porn sites with cleaner design, better responsiveness and less ads than most other sites.
And likely better CDNs and basically everything else. The information that PornHub has posted in regards to delivering content and efficiently classifying and making sense of data is all really good stuff.
Not to forget that their social media people aren't total fucking wankers.
That may have been a poor choice of words. But I'm going to roll with it.
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
And likely better CDNs and basically everything else. The information that PornHub has posted in regards to delivering content and efficiently classifying and making sense of data is all really good stuff.
If anyone can start a viable competitor to Youtube, it's those guys. But for some reason they haven't, AFAIK.
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
And likely better CDNs and basically everything else. The information that PornHub has posted in regards to delivering content and efficiently classifying and making sense of data is all really good stuff.
If anyone can start a viable competitor to Youtube, it's those guys. But for some reason they haven't, AFAIK.
They don't think it's as profitable as hosting free porn?
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@Carnage FWIW, nobody would want to pay for being able to see cat videos in HD.
Edit: other than those they already host.
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@Polygeekery They've really been doing a number on UI stuff in the past few Android revisions. First they went from the familiar three button layout to a two-and-a-half-with-swiping layout that doesn't take up any less screen space but is more confusing, to what is apparently a gesture-based system but a completely ass-backwards one that screws up a decade worth of software that used side swiping for something other than the back button.
Yeah, this was one of the first things I reverted on my Pixel 3a when it updated to Android 10. Side swipes are hard enough with a case on it; making you use it all the time would be impossibly frustrating.
@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
@levicki said in WTF Bites:
@Polygeekery But removing stuff takes courage... no wait, that's the other phone brand's motto.
Well, it also doesn't have a headphone jack and relies on a USB-C to 3.5mm adapter to regain that functionality. So there's that....
That's why I got a 3a over a 3 (not much more expensive on clearance) or 4, though there are others with headphone jacks out there.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in WTF Bites:
Yeah. The big thing I'm not happy about with my (aging) Pixel 2. And the adapter never worked well for me at all, so I had to get wireless headphones for the rare occasions I need them. And replace the head unit in my car with one that can do Bluetooth (which I was probably going to do anyway, but...)
I've got a pair of wireless headphones and actually they've been pretty great. Comfortable, block out a lot of external noise, and I only need to charge them very occasionally. (I use them with both my phone and my tablet.) Not having wires to get tangled is nice too.
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
@levicki said in WTF Bites:
Or click, but don't complain.
What about bitching? Is bitching allowed?
i think that's a subset of complaining?
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
@levicki said in WTF Bites:
Or click, but don't complain.
What about bitching? Is bitching allowed?
i think that's a subset of complaining?
A bitchy sub eh? I reckon the right person could have some fun with that.
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
@levicki said in WTF Bites:
Or click, but don't complain.
What about bitching? Is bitching allowed?
i think that's a subset of complaining?
A bitchy sub eh? I reckon the right person could have some fun with that.
:whip:
KYON!
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
@levicki said in WTF Bites:
Or click, but don't complain.
What about bitching? Is bitching allowed?
i think that's a subset of complaining?
A bitchy sub eh? I reckon the right person could have some fun with that.
Around here, bitchy subs are called brats.
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@Polygeekery They've really been doing a number on UI stuff in the past few Android revisions. First they went from the familiar three button layout to a two-and-a-half-with-swiping layout that doesn't take up any less screen space but is more confusing, to what is apparently a gesture-based system but a completely ass-backwards one that screws up a decade worth of software that used side swiping for something other than the back button.
Yeah, this was one of the first things I reverted on my Pixel 3a when it updated to Android 10. Side swipes are hard enough with a case on it; making you use it all the time would be impossibly frustrating.
Hmm...my Pixel 2 is on Android 10 but I never lost the back button. Is this maybe a carrier specific thing? I'm on Verizon.
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@boomzilla I think you can switch it (settings » display » navigation bar)
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@boomzilla I think you can switch it (settings » display » navigation bar)
Yeah. My stupid ass-phone can have nav bar, gestures, pie controls, and has hardware buttons!
Thank $deity for custom ROMs!
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@boomzilla I think you can switch it (settings » display » navigation bar)
Ah...not there but searching reveals it's in System -> Gestures -> System Navigation on my phone.
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@boomzilla Of course it's somewhere else, settings move with every minor it seems. And on top of that I was translating; I usually have stuff set to English but my phone is on Dutch.
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
@levicki said in WTF Bites:
Or click, but don't complain.
What about bitching? Is bitching allowed?
i think that's a subset of complaining?
A bitchy sub eh? I reckon the right person could have some fun with that.
Around here, bitchy subs are called brats.
Brats are the wurst.
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@dkf Mmm, brat wurst
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if fucking porn sites can get a pure HTML/JS video chat site going, why can't Microsoft?
They pay better?
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@boomzilla said in WTF Bites:
Pornhub is
Skype for BusinessTeams for sluts!Get with the times gramps!
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@levicki said in WTF Bites:
@topspin Did you know that (if your admin allows that) you can join Skype for Business calls using Microsoft Teams which you can use from web browser?
Well, I don’t think my admin allows that, unless you mean it’s something they didn’t explicitly forbid.
But anyways, I don’t have Teams installed, or an account for it or, fuck, know what it is. I only have a fucking email with an invite link to join a meeting. That’s it. Can’t be that hard to make it reasonable to connect to it.
If I can join the call from the browser - without installing anything or signing up to anything - why isn’t there a fucking link to that?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
Status: Fucking asshole developers....
For FUCKS SAKE!
Why are you providing a getter nobody can access but yourself!??!
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@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@LB_ It's sideways for me with the same browser and OS. Do you have JS enabled?
Yeah, I do have JS enabled. I also tried opening in a guest window (no extensions, default settings) but it's still purely a vertical scrolling page. It's vertical in Firefox too. I had to actually open it in Microsoft Edge in order to see what everyone was talking about, but it only does the horizontal scrolling in the old Microsoft Edge, the new Chromium-based Edge is vertical.
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The OCR of this handwritten check I deposited with my phone gypped me 2 cents.
I obviously don't care enough to fight it but.
It kept insisting I entered the amount wrong, and eventually just "fixed" it for me.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
Status: Fucking asshole developers....
For FUCKS SAKE!
Why are you providing a getter nobody can access but yourself!??!
Perhaps they are Java developers?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
Status: Fucking asshole developers....
For FUCKS SAKE!
Why are you providing a getter nobody can access but yourself!??!
Maybe it lazy inits the cached value. Maybe it's hiding an inherited method.
Insufficient information.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
Status: Fucking asshole developers....
For FUCKS SAKE!
Why are you providing a getter nobody can access but yourself!??!
Maybe it lazy inits the cached value. Maybe it's hiding an inherited method.
Insufficient information.
Yes, kinda.
GetPlayerState()returnsCachedPlayerStateif it is notnullptr, otherwise setsCachedPlayerStatefromCharacter(no it does not check ifCharacteris valid).I don't know why we're "caching" the pointer anyways, it doesn't change and (I assume) it's a preoptimization since getting the player state from
Characteris also literally just returning yet another cached pointer.
I'm not going to fix it because what would be the point?
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@levicki said in WTF Bites:
@topspin Do you even have a domain
No.
or Azure AD account
No.
which is licensed to use Skype for Business?
We don't use any of that. The invite comes from a partner outside of our organization.
If yes, then try entering your work email at https://teams.microsoft.com/start and see if it allows you to log in and use web-based Teams client.
I've installed the desktop client on my laptop where I have admin rights. Seems to work.
Thanks for the hint anyway.
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I don't want to go full @Levicki, but if fucking porn sites can get a pure HTML/JS video chat site going, why can't Microsoft?
It's not that simple. Skype, the not-for-business one, has been HTML/JS application in web or electron for about 3 years and it worked on all platforms since they switched to it. And the rewrite to that happened under Microsoft already. When they bought Skype, it had native clients (that existed for all platforms and looked very differently on each).
On the other hand Teams, which is a HTML/JS application since the beginning, could only call on Windows, and in browser it could only call in Edge (writing worked fine everywhere). Until some 2 days ago. Meanwhile there was a user-agent-faking hack, which made calls work in Chromium, but some other things broke, and this Ismael Martinez was maintaining a mostly working unofficial package by wrapping the web in Electron with some suitable polyfills.
Microsoft is not doing much about Skype-for-Business anymore as they are replacing it with Teams, to get their own walled garden. Because, you see, Skype-for-Business is mostly standard SIP/SIMPLE protocol, the same used by most VoIP phones, while Teams is yet another special snowflake.
Aside from the helpful department: The Pidgin-SIPE 1.24 is still somewhat unstable, but colleague who installed 1.25 reports it finally works fine with Skype-for-Business including conference calls.
@levicki said in WTF Bites:
Did you know that (if your admin allows that) you can join Skype for Business calls using Microsoft Teams which you can use from web browser?
Does that work again? Because ~2 years ago when we switched to Teams there was some cross-communication happening between them, but these days they generally behave incompatibly.
Also, not sure whether it works already now they moved the Linux client to public beta, but before that the web client was not willing to call in any other browser than Edge anyway.
@levicki said in WTF Bites:
@topspin Do you even have a domain
No.
or Azure AD account
No.
Well, if that works, then you apparently do have such account. The same account generally works with both. After all, both are part of Office 365, and you need that account for all of Office including Outlook.
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The OCR of this handwritten check I deposited with my phone gypped me 2 cents.
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I made the mistake of wanting to do something simple in a webpage. I wanted to size a div according to an aspect ratio, up to a certain maximum size, based on its container dimensions. Apparently, this is literally impossible to do in pure CSS. You can have it lock to an aspect ratio using a hack, sure, and you can set a maximum size, sure, but if you want both at the same time you are just screwed. Something that I assume nearly every layout engine in existence supports, has never once been supported in web browsers.
It gets better. CSS supports
background-size: containandbackground-size: cover. These both ask the browser to do the needful and calculate the proper dimensions for thebackground-imageregardless of the size of its container, while maintaining the image's aspect ratio. Then you can usewidth,height,max-width,max-height, etc as normal. This lets you display an image, as long as you don't care about the user not being able to right click and save the image or open it in a new tab, and you don't care about actual proper dimensions for the div, etc. But hey, the browser does the super simple math for you because browsers can do simple math for you. It's a thing browsers can just do, easily, without fussing, and it's pure CSS.But if you want to get that same functionality for a generic element instead of a
background-image, nope, impossible, browser can't do it, everyone suggests JavaScript instead, just throw more JavaScript at the problem until we don't even need the browser anymore, that solves all problems with absolutely zero performance penalty and certainly won't annoy those users who disable JavaScript.
At least some people realized this was bad and we are getting
aspect-ratiosomeday, maybe...
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if you want both at the same time you are just screwed.
I thought I remember some hack that involved three layers of divs with three different classes, but I can't find it at the moment...
714: Porn For Women - explain xkcd
