WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else
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my pinned items always stay in order
Let me backpedal this way: they don't stay in the exact same place, which already bothers me :monk:
I can launch them with +their number
TIL. This could actually help me change if I were in a mood to change, and I'm not.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said:
This could actually help me change if I were in a mood to change, and I'm not.
I like how the nickname fits the message.
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@El_Heffe said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@sloosecannon said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@El_Heffe said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
just like I did when I was running MS-DOS in 1987
I forgot about being able to type "wor" and launch Microsoft Word.
No need to type anything (and defeat the whole purpose of a GUI). I know exactly where it is.
And that means I have to take my hand off the keyboard, onto the mouse, move the mouse, click "all programs", find and click "Microsoft office", then click "Word". Or hit Win wor [pause for a second] enter
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@El_Heffe said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
I know exactly where it is.
Because it's not moved for 16 years?
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@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Gąska said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Obviously you've never had a bad update that just refused to work on your computer, and had to endure doing system restore twice a week at random times. Skipping updates is essential for having reliable computers - ones that you can just turn on and not worry about anything.
And then get hit with a crypto-malware or trojan keylogger because of unpatched 0-day. No thanks. I learned my lesson to update ASAP with Windows XP in days of dialup when Blaster worm hit.
Times have changed. Systems have evolved, as well as viruses. The chance of getting hit with a remote exploit (without running dubious executables as admin yourself) is extremely small these days, with all the sandboxing and ASLR and everything else going on. And the viruses themselves changed too - they're not spreading destruction anymore, they're just stealing CPU cycles to mine bitcoins. The worst you can get is have some random docx and PDF files encrypted, so you better make backup in case of this (and also in case of the much more common storage drive failure).
The problem is you can't pick and choose updates anymore. It's all or nothing.
Well, that's directly connected to not being able to skip updating. Like, it's literally the same thing.
@hungrier said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
You mean like the muscle memory of +R
vmware.exeEnter?FTFY.
Now we're back to 1981 for real.
But if you are starting that one so many times you need to search for it, why just not make a fucking shortcut on the desktop
Because it's the least convenient place ever, behind everything else I also have open.
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@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Gąska said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
with all the sandboxing and ASLR and everything else going on...
You can still get infected by Javascript hidden in PNG using steganography and Javascript exploits from time to time not only breach sandbox but also VM they are in onto the host if right kind of vulnerabilities in kernel (and especially in win32k.sys on Windows) are present.
That's a very big if. When was the last time Microsoft announced virtualization-breaching bug in Windows kernel?
they're not spreading destruction anymore
If someone steals your banking credentials using keylogger you can be literally destructed.
You know very little about banking security. Hint: it has very little to do with secure connection and authentication.
The worst you can get is have some random docx and PDF files encrypted, so you better make backup in case of this
Yes, and they are also known to destroy backups, shadow copies
Online backups aren't backups.
and encrypt everything on network shares.
Sounds like permissions problem.
Some of them even sit silent for 30-40 days until you run out of backup versions and all of them get overwritten by encrypted data and only then activate and demand ransom.
...how can data be already encrypted if the malware hasn't activated yet? Or are you saying you don't actually check whether your backup works until it's too late?
How is that worse than searching from Start Menu?
You need to remember entire words. Also, the word will be the same as executable name, which usually is less memorable than "Visual Studio 2019". I know you're a robot with perfect memory, but believe me, not everyone is.
Because it's the least convenient place ever, behind everything else I also have open.
+D, double click icon.
And now you have to maximize the half dozen windows again. No thanks.
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win+R vmware.exe
adding something to path
going to the desktopWhy would I do any of these when Windows literally comes with a much better and faster way that doesn't take any extra setup or steps?
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@Gąska said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
And now you have to maximize the half dozen windows again.
Hah! I have more windows than that open in file explorer alone. Not to mention Blender, MuseScore, VLC, calculator, task manager, bash, spreadsheets, email, games. And 30+ Chrome windows. What's a desktop?
Also, restore, not maximize.
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@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
FTFY
No. I don't want to remember the executable name, I don't want to have to fuck around with
PATH, I want to type (part) of the name of the thing I want and have it there. No fucking around with shortcuts, nothing like that. I type "VM" and boom, there's VMware.
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@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Some of them even sit silent for 30-40 days until you run out of backup versions and all of them get overwritten by encrypted data and only then activate and demand ransom.
... What?
So let me get this straight: The backup (which, presumably, always keeps at least one version) gets deleted after 30-40 days (why?) and then the encryptor malware strikes? What?
I could understand if maybe perhaps it encrypted things, then waited a month to show the message that your files were encrypted, but you'd think people would notice when literally all their shit was renamed and encrypted for a month....
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Some of them even sit silent for 30-40 days until you run out of backup versions and all of them get overwritten by encrypted data and only then activate and demand ransom.
... What?
So let me get this straight: The backup (which, presumably, always keeps at least one version) gets deleted after 30-40 days (why?) and then the encryptor malware strikes? What?
I could understand if maybe perhaps it encrypted things, then waited a month to show the message that your files were encrypted, but you'd think people would notice when literally all their shit was renamed and encrypted for a month....
From what I've read this kind of malware uses a filter-driver to do the decryption on the fly. So, the backups become progressively more useless as more and more files only exist in an encrypted state. At the appropriate time the malware removes the filter-driver and suddenly all your files are mashed and the backups useless.
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@Cursorkeys said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Some of them even sit silent for 30-40 days until you run out of backup versions and all of them get overwritten by encrypted data and only then activate and demand ransom.
... What?
So let me get this straight: The backup (which, presumably, always keeps at least one version) gets deleted after 30-40 days (why?) and then the encryptor malware strikes? What?
I could understand if maybe perhaps it encrypted things, then waited a month to show the message that your files were encrypted, but you'd think people would notice when literally all their shit was renamed and encrypted for a month....
From what I've read this kind of malware uses a filter-driver to do the decryption on the fly. So, the backups become progressively more useless as more and more files only exist in an encrypted state. At the appropriate time the malware removes the filter-driver and suddenly all your files are mashed and the backups useless.
Interesting!
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Cursorkeys said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Some of them even sit silent for 30-40 days until you run out of backup versions and all of them get overwritten by encrypted data and only then activate and demand ransom.
... What?
So let me get this straight: The backup (which, presumably, always keeps at least one version) gets deleted after 30-40 days (why?) and then the encryptor malware strikes? What?
I could understand if maybe perhaps it encrypted things, then waited a month to show the message that your files were encrypted, but you'd think people would notice when literally all their shit was renamed and encrypted for a month....
From what I've read this kind of malware uses a filter-driver to do the decryption on the fly. So, the backups become progressively more useless as more and more files only exist in an encrypted state. At the appropriate time the malware removes the filter-driver and suddenly all your files are mashed and the backups useless.
Interesting!
Very! I'm not clear how the driver only presents unencrypted files to the user but not to backup software. I wouldn't be too surprised if it was just a black-list of known backup software though.
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@Cursorkeys
Wouldn't it work like legit encryption software? On write it encrypts and on read it decrypts transparently until the timer runs out that is.
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@Luhmann said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Cursorkeys
Wouldn't it work like legit encryption software? On write it encrypts and on read it decrypts transparently until the timer runs out that is.But that would mean that any ol' software (i.e. backups) would also receive the non-encrypted version up until this switch happens, thus obviating the reason for waiting for backups to fall off the edge of the world (or whatever).
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
But that would mean that any ol' software (i.e. backups) would also receive the non-encrypted version up until this switch happens, thus obviating the reason for waiting for backups to fall off the edge of the world (or whatever).
It probably all depends on whether the file is opened with
FILE_FLAG_BACKUP_SEMANTICSor not.
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@Tsaukpaetra
no, backup should save the file as it exists so if it is encrypted on the source, it should be encrypted in the backup. we can't trust our IT guys snooping around after all.
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@Cursorkeys said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
From what I've read this kind of malware uses a filter-driver to do the decryption on the fly. So, the backups become progressively more useless as more and more files only exist in an encrypted state.
Well then the malware would need to include its own decryption key. Thus if you can get your hands on the malware, someone should be able to get it out of there for you.
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What if the decryption key is encrypted?
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@ixvedeusi said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Cursorkeys said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
From what I've read this kind of malware uses a filter-driver to do the decryption on the fly. So, the backups become progressively more useless as more and more files only exist in an encrypted state.
Well then the malware would need to include its own decryption key. Thus if you can get your hands on the malware, someone should be able to get it out of there for you.
Might be tricky, you'd first have to know it was happening before the cutoff date so you could get the driver for analysis (before it gets deleted). The key would have to be known to the miscreant's too so they could offer the decryption service later, so I guess it's possible that the key isn't persisted on disk ever and it acquired via IP on every boot and held in memory.
So, in the best case you'd have to have the disk out or use a Linux live-CD to get to the driver, as I'd be certain it hides it's own presence. In the worst case you'd have to attach a kernel-mode debugger and try to get it out of the memory live.
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@Gąska said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Quick Lunch
Best choice
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@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Gąska said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
When was the last time Microsoft announced virtualization-breaching bug in Windows kernel?
I'd guess 2 years ago, but that doesn't mean some evil people find a new one and are sitting on it.
But it does mean it's very unlikely.
You know very little about banking security.
You know very little about me and you keep assuming what I know or don't.
E-banking is a thing, and people who can get in can transfer your funds out of your account. Compared to credit card fraud that is much harder to reverse.
What can I say? Your country's banking laws suck.
Online backups aren't backups.
Yet 95% of people is only using that, doesn't mean I don't know better.
So computer illiterate people get obliterated by a method that only works when you do something that you should never ever do if aren't absolutely damn sure what you're doing (which skipping updates is). Boo fucking hoo.
You need to remember entire words.
Well when searching for stuff you also need to remember words, guess how many things have "wor" in them?
At least you see the alternatives. Not so much with
command lineRun dialog.And now you have to maximize the half dozen windows again. No thanks.
+D restores them back to where they were.
Unless you open another window between the two +D strokes. Do you remember why I wanted to see desktop in the first place?
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@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
E-banking is a thing, and people who can get in can transfer your funds out of your account. Compared to credit card fraud that is much harder to reverse.
Wow, that would be the worst e-banking system I've even heard about. Not to mention seen.
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@MrL said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Wow, that would be the worst e-banking system I've even heard about. Not to mention seen.
It depends on what the law in that jurisdiction says. For credit cards, at least round here, disputing a charge is very easy precisely because the law makes this so. Bank transfers are not so heavily protected, at least not if the bank can show that you authorised the transaction (even erroneously).
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@dkf With my bank at least, to do an e-transfer you first need to add the contact's email and/or phone number, which sends a verification code through text. So unless the person hacking your account is someone you've sent e-transfers to previously, they wouldn't be able to steal your money.
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@hungrier said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
So unless the person hacking your account is someone you've sent e-transfers to previously, they wouldn't be able to steal your money
The best protection is to not have any money to be stolen
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Honest question: how does your e-banking system prevent such a thing from happening? And how would your bank deal with it if it happened anyways?
I can only speak for France, but here two-factor authentication for accessing your bank account don't seem to be the default yet (if it's even supported).
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@Zerosquare said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Honest question: how does your e-banking system prevent such a thing from happening?
2FA (or perhaps wish-it-was-2FA) is very common for e-banking here in the UK. Other ways of accessing are still available. I guess there's some sort of code of practice if nothing else, and there's still occasional talk of legislation to enforce things more strongly. Banks are variable in how good they are at dealing with fraud attempts (and also at avoiding false positives, which is also a serious failure mode).
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@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
How often do you test restores of your backup?
Actually yesterday. Someone had deleted a bunch of "zzz" folders a few months ago and lo, someone just came by and asked if I could get them back.
Being two months ago, I honestly didn't think the answer would be yes, but hey, it actually worked...
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@Zerosquare said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Honest question: how does your e-banking system prevent such a thing from happening? And how would your bank deal with it if it happened anyways?
Adding new 'trusted recipient' or one-off transfer requires confirmation with one-time code (text message or call).
Apart from that certain behaviors fire off an alarm
- large transfer to new recipient
- very small transfer to new recipient
- repeated transfers to one recipient
Similar rules apply to credit card operations.
When alarm is raised bank calls you for confirmation - no confirmation, no transfer.For mobile app there's fingerprint login and separate mobile passcode for setting up new recipients. Also low limits for transactions and some transfer channels are disabled for mobile - you have to enable them with call-and-confirm-online procedure.
As a side note, for online shopping there is BLIK system, quite popular in Poland.
- you choose BLIK as payment method
- shop opens 'enter BLIK code' page
- in mobile app you click 'give me a BLIK code', you get a random code that's valid for 30 seconds
- you enter the code on shop's page
- shop pings BLIK system with the code (and amount)
- in your mobile app confirmation screen shows up, you confirm with your mobile app authentication (whatever it is)
- shop gets pingback from BLIK that the transaction was successful
What's cool about this system is that the shop never gets any useful data. No credit card number, account number, your name or even name of the bank. Only random code that is valid for 30 seconds and useless without your confirmation.
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Ah yeah, I had forgotten that adding a new recipient typically requires some kind of confirmation step that isn't Web-based.
We've also got something similar to BLIK here, except it's a virtual credit card number which is only valid once and for a specific amount of money. It would be perfect... if you could use it without having to pay monthly charges. And if some merchants sites weren't incompatible with it (like the one for the national train company, for example. But this company is well known for their WTFs, so...)
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@hungrier said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
So unless the person hacking your account is someone you've sent e-transfers to previously, they wouldn't be able to steal your money
The best protection is to not have any money to be stolen
Not sure if homeless or a billionaire with offshore accounts...
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@Gąska said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Not sure if homeless
You can't be homeless in Canada, there is everything needed to build yourself an igloo
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@Zerosquare said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Honest question: how does your e-banking system prevent such a thing from happening?
With law. I mean, there are 2FA and temporary freezes for suspicious logins and other stuff, but the ultimate protection is the law - if the money was stolen (including via fradulent online transfer), the bank has to return it to the client, unless they can prove gross negligence on client's part that led to the theft.
And how would your bank deal with it if it happened anyways?
Try their hardest to bullshit that gross negligence thing into existence. Sometimes they succeed, sometimes they don't - you know how courts of law work.
Fun fact: in Polish, there's a single word for both free and slow: "wolne". As you might imagine, it's a source of a lot of puns about our judicial system (especially after one political party adopted "free courts" as their slogan).
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@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
- Change how everything works (on by default)
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@hungrier said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@pie_flavor said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@hungrier said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@anonymous234 Seriously. They had a very useful feature that worked great, and then they integrated a digital assistant and Bing-in-Edge into it, something that I'm pretty sure nobody ever thought of asking for, and if they had they would have wanted the opposite.
"If I had asked the people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses."
e: fuck it, at this point this is going in my sig.I think you need to properly attribute that quotation to Jeff Atwood
People said they wanted faster fora.
Jeff the Visionary looked deeper, and saw that they truly wanted a faster thing-that-serves-the-purpose-of-a-forum-but-is-not-actually-a-forum.
There are certainly people here who would say he failed at the latter part, but I think it's clear he certainly failed at the former.
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@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Gąska said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
But it does mean it's very unlikely.
Unlikely != impossible.
Impossible != what I was talking about.
What can I say? Your country's banking laws suck.
And again you are assuming while you have no clue about it.
I'm only basing my posts on what you say yourself. Apparently you're worried you'll lose your money forever if you get hacked. There's only one explanation.
So computer illiterate people get obliterated by a method that only works when you do something that you should never ever do if aren't absolutely damn sure what you're doing (which skipping updates is). Boo fucking hoo.
First you said that people should be skipping updates because they fuck up things.
No, I said that people should be ABLE TO skip updates. A huge difference.
Now you are gloating over people who follow your advice and get fucked by ransomware showing again what a giant dick of a person you are.
My advice was that people who know what they're doing shouldn't be stopped from doing it. Learn to read.
At least you see the alternatives. Not so much with
command lineRun dialog.Run dialog has auto-completion too, you fucking retard.
Yes, except:
- only after you already wrote it once;
- it stays in autocompletion even if you typo'd the name and now you're stuck with a helpful suggestion of something that doesn't work;
- it still won't tell you what other programs/actions/files/whatever share the same name fragments you typed in the box.
Do you remember why I wanted to see desktop in the first place?
If desktop is out of the question because you can't be bothered to restore window (a single one you need at a time)
And again you are assuming while you have no clue about it. Did you know you can have several windows shown on screen at the same time? Can you imagine I'm actually using this all the time for my work?
then you can use quick launch icons or start menu pinned entries. Still faster than search.
Depends. Training muscle memory to make precise mouse movement is much much harder than training it to mash a few keyboard buttons in order - and the former is much more prone to getting messed up after system updates, because they've added new entry or slightly altered layout. Also, things you don't use all the time but only once a week or so are still a problem, unless you pin literally everything to Start menu. Quick Launch is less prone to getting updated, but also has smaller buttons which are harder to hit.
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@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Gąska said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
At least you see the alternatives. Not so much with
command lineRun dialog.Run dialog has auto-completion too, you fucking retard.
Auto completion of exact commands (that didn't fail to launch, mind you) is not equivalent at all.
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@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Run dialog has auto-completion too, you fucking retard.
From what I can tell, it only does if you're typing the full path. If it's something on your system path (I tried notepad) it doesn't do any completion.
Anyway I actually installed Launchy a couple days ago (prompted by my issue with the bing searching start menu) and it's still every bit as great as I remember it. Launching an app? Fuck yeah it can. Navigating through the file system? You bet. Doing a web search? If that's what you want, you can do that
e: The only bad thing is it'll give me alt+space muscle memory and leave me disappointed whenever the convenience is not there
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@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Here's how that works -- hackers pick up all your credentials from your PC with keylogger and network sniffer [etc. etc. etc.]
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Status: I just noticed that Dark Mode turns context menus grey!
I am pleased by this.
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Thanks to screenshotting this breakage (and restarting Firefox) I lost an amazing Transformer story where the urban legend of the arcade game Polybius dated back to the Trojan war.
So, yeah, about this. Apparently the new MS Store-based Snipping Tool will overwrite whatever is in the copy buffer when you take a screenshot. Because if I copy a text and then take a screenshot, when I use paste it will paste the screenshot I took. Which makes me wonder: Why?
I feel that overwriting the copy buffer without an explicit copy or cut action is
as if I copy something I know what's in the buffer, but if some program decides to use the copy buffer behind my back between my copy and paste actions that will just leave me confused and angry (and potentially losing data).In this case it was nothing serious, but if it would happen with something of importance I would be quite pissed off.
Using the Print Screen button to place a screenshot in the copy buffer I am fine with, even if I prefer the way Linux Mint handles it by opening a dialog box where I can enter a filename (and path) and/or place a copy in the copy buffer.
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@Atazhaia said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
So, yeah, about this. Apparently the new MS Store-based Snipping Tool will overwrite whatever is in the copy buffer when you take a screenshot.
Wait, aren't you able to turn that off? I could have sworn that was now an option...
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@Atazhaia said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Apparently the new MS Store-based Snipping Tool will overwrite whatever is in the copy buffer when you take a screenshot.
Snipping tool on Win7 does this too. Since I can't use snipping tool to take a screenshot of snipping tool and print screen+crop externally is
, I can't insert a picture of the relevant checkbox here. But it can definitely be disabled.
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@kazitor said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
I can't insert a picture of the relevant checkbox
because the clipboard got overwritten after you took the screenshot?
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Well, I never checked for the relevant option but I shall when I get home. So
is the tools lacking sensible defaults. Got it.Another
of the new Snipping Tool is that it apparently got no option for screenshotting a single window, making me resort to the old tool whenever I want to do that. I have not looked for any archaic commands for that, I just know it's not an option in the dropdown like in the old tool.
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@kazitor said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Atazhaia said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Apparently the new MS Store-based Snipping Tool will overwrite whatever is in the copy buffer when you take a screenshot.
Snipping tool on Win7 does this too. Since I can't use snipping tool to take a screenshot of snipping tool and print screen+crop externally is
, I can't insert a picture of the relevant checkbox here. But it can definitely be disabled.
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For once, something more like a non-
than a :I changed my system disk (see help thread about it dying, I got the replacement), and I was expecting Windows to, at the very least, ask me to re-authorize my system, and maybe force me to do a full reinstall. Well, actually, the most brutal way of copying the disk (boot from a live CD, then
dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb) worked absolutely without a hitch. Windows booted again, didn't bat an eyelid at the new disk, saw the new (much larger) size and when I asked it to, extended the system partition to fill up the remaining space.So it looks like Windows has not yet managed to totally break simple hardware maintenance tasks on your computer, that's impressive!
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@Atazhaia said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Thanks to screenshotting this breakage (and restarting Firefox) I lost an amazing Transformer story where the urban legend of the arcade game Polybius dated back to the Trojan war.
So, yeah, about this. Apparently the new MS Store-based Snipping Tool will overwrite whatever is in the copy buffer when you take a screenshot. Because if I copy a text and then take a screenshot, when I use paste it will paste the screenshot I took. Which makes me wonder: Why?
Because that's how things have worked since forever? Whether you use new snipping tool or old snipping tool or PetScr, or right-click image in browser, or select one in Word and use Ctrl+C, or any other way of putting an image in clipboard - if the paste target accepts both picture and text, and clipboard picture is newer than clipboard text, then it will take the picture, always, no matter what.
You should've opened Notepad - that would've saved your slashfic.
I feel that overwriting the copy buffer without an explicit copy or cut action is
as if I copy something I know what's in the buffer, but if some program decides to use the copy buffer behind my back between my copy and paste actions that will just leave me confused and angry (and potentially losing data).Taking a screenshot can be argued to be pretty explicit action. (inb4
)In this case it was nothing serious, but if it would happen with something of importance I would be quite pissed off.
Are you also pissed off when files in your Recycle Bin sometimes disappear at random? If you care about something - save it. If you don't save it - don't expect it to be saved.
Using the Print Screen button to place a screenshot in the copy buffer I am fine with
Great, double standards! "This one thing is awful and unacceptable, but this other, identical thing is fine." Are you sure the problem with this new screenshot taking thingy is overwriting clipboard, and not that it's less than 10 years old and you hate everything that's less than 10 years old?
