What users say versus what they mean
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@Polygeekery said in What users say versus what they mean:
Kids. You forgot about kids.
And cats. Evil little furry creatures.
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@levicki said in What users say versus what they mean:
@boomzilla said in What users say versus what they mean:
Do they not have networks where you live?
Yes.
However, brute-force login attacks are dealt with using firewall.
You are so cute. And ignoring lots of responses in this thread.
Yes, it's a trade off. You're just too narrowly focused on one particular use case and are ignoring a lot of other trade offs.
Denial's not just what you're full of.
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@Gurth said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Deadfast I have this feeling this is a fairly common occurrence with older people who’ve only started using computers later in life, not just your father. My mother asks me questions like your father’s, while my father has no problems with this level of computer operation at all (yet he’s only been working with them for about forty years …) but sometimes gets confused by current ways of doing things that are different from how they were done ten or twenty years ago.
I've always been proud that my grandmother had a TRS-80 when my classroom had one in grade school and could write simple BASIC programs.
And when I got married and she couldn't come, I emailed her some pictures:
No matter how I adjust the image your dress still looks blue.
It was blue (I'm fairly anti-traditional).
Still proud she would attempt to adjust the image.
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@levicki said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Polygeekery said in What users say versus what they mean:
@levicki that is especially user hostile. You are potentially blocking users and making them call in to have the block removed. Which, if it happens on Friday at 5PM they might be screwed until Monday.
They need to make 10 wrong attempts to get blocked for an hour. That alone is higly unlikely to happen to legitimate users.
What about the retard who realized he had an actual user name and tried different passwords? Because of your insecurity by denial.
To get permanent ban they have to make another 10 attempts after an hour ban has expired and do that 4 more times before the ban becomes permanent (so 5 x 10 tries in total). It's a pretty high treshold and also hosting provider support works on Saturday as well.
You are like the worst person ever for thinking through the unintended consequences of policies and solutions, aren't you?
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@Karla said in What users say versus what they mean:
It was blue (I'm fairly anti-traditional).
Also, I think if you wore white it would be heresy, you hussy.
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@Karla said in What users say versus what they mean:
No matter how I adjust the image your dress still looks blue.
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@Zerosquare said in What users say versus what they mean:
And it existed long before Apple's implementation. I have an old PS/2 mouse with two scroll wheels, built in ~1998.
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@boomzilla said in What users say versus what they mean:
Denial's not just what you're full of.
Sure. It's a river in Egypt.
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@Polygeekery said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Karla said in What users say versus what they mean:
It was blue (I'm fairly anti-traditional).
Also, I think if you wore white it would be heresy, you hussy.
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@Karla you...complete...me.
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@loopback0 said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Karla said in What users say versus what they mean:
No matter how I adjust the image your dress still looks blue.
I've been trying to think of a witty way to respond to this...
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@Polygeekery said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Karla you...complete...me.
https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmakeameme.org%2Fmedia%2Fcreated%2Fyou-complete-me-up94t8.jpg&f=1FTFY
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@pie_flavor said in What users say versus what they mean:
Yup, this one (mine's a different brand, but looks pretty much the same).
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@pie_flavor said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Zerosquare said in What users say versus what they mean:
And it existed long before Apple's implementation. I have an old PS/2 mouse with two scroll wheels, built in ~1998.
First time I've seen that, and I have two questions
- How does the second wheel help you 'cruise the net faster'?
- What's the 4th dimension in this context?
Suggestions about the 2nd wheel controlling time will be treated to the derision with which they deserve.
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@Polygeekery said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Gribnit said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Cursorkeys did I ever tell you about the guy named Grant that couldn't register?
I don't think you have, and this may be the only time I ever tell you this, but please tell us more.
So this one guy could not register for yon tradeshow. Everything about his registration was normal except that his name was Grant. I was the happy person to realize that this was the problem, and that someone had done basically the exact same boneheaded approach to defending the SQLs, stripping keywords. And thus began the great Fixing Allll The Queries project because, it was about that time we realized we were getting SQL injected anyway.
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@PJH said in What users say versus what they mean:
@pie_flavor said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Zerosquare said in What users say versus what they mean:
And it existed long before Apple's implementation. I have an old PS/2 mouse with two scroll wheels, built in ~1998.
First time I've seen that, and I have two questions
- How does the second wheel help you 'cruise the net faster'?
V-scroll & H-scroll controls.
- What's the 4th dimension in this context?
The mouse itself moves in two dimensions, and the scrollwheels provide another dimension each for #3 and #4.
Suggestions about the 2nd wheel controlling time will be treated to the derision with which they deserve.
That would be fun! Maybe it would let you scroll through various versions of a webpage as it had been updated...
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@loopback0 said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Karla said in What users say versus what they mean:
No matter how I adjust the image your dress still looks blue.
Keep adjusting it...
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@Gribnit said in What users say versus what they mean:
it was about that time we realized we were getting SQL injected anyway.
That's just the icing on this particular shit cake.
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@Polygeekery well I mean with that kinda advanced security to fall back on the OP hadn't done any parameterized queries.
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At my previous job, where I was a DBA, "something is wrong with the database" could mean any, or all, of the following:
- The Indians did not close, and thus ran out of, socket handles.
- A record that did not exist was not found.
- A query that updates 500 million rows for lack of a where clause is still running. In production. Three days later.
- A job that has always run on Thursday morning did not run on Monday night.
- The server is out of disk space. Again.
- 7zip was deleted (it launched from powershell concatenated by a batch script concatenated by an agent job kicked off by a Windows app with command line arguments kicked off by the Windows scheduler).
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@PJH said in What users say versus what they mean:
First time I've seen that, and I have two questions
- How does the second wheel help you 'cruise the net faster'?
- What's the 4th dimension in this context?
Marketting
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@pie_flavor said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Zerosquare said in What users say versus what they mean:
And it existed long before Apple's implementation. I have an old PS/2 mouse with two scroll wheels, built in ~1998.
The only thing that's missing is the "Y2K Compliant" sticker.
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@dcon said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Polygeekery said in What users say versus what they mean:
Kids. You forgot about kids.
And cats. Evil little furry creatures.
I think i’ve some posts here one of the cats “helped” with...
Filed under: That’s my story, and i’m sticking to it...
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@levicki why even bother with usernames? Just sort people by password.
Sadly, one of our clients uses a software that does exactly this. I shit you not.
Hey....I might know where @levicki works. This explains so much.
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@Polygeekery said in What users say versus what they mean:
Just sort people by password.
Sadly, one of our clients uses a software that does exactly this. I shit you not.Wat?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Gąska said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Gurth it always takes me 2 minutes to remember how you mute channel in Slack. Right mouse button isn't a thing in 2019, apparently.
Everything is mobile!
Ze projekt I'm working now started out with a design philosophy of "mobile first" and now it's become mobile only. The best part is that we are building a web interface to fill out and send in government forms, so lots of typing and adding files and shit. Perfect for mobile.
Since this is government work, the decision comes from the head of this branch of the government, and there is to be no changing what was ordered.
In every other place I've worked, if you could argue your point and give good reason for something, you'd be allowed to do it. Here? Fuck that! The High Lord has spoken, and thus will it be!
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@levicki said in What users say versus what they mean:
Shared hosting
I toughed we where talking about the windows login prompt ...
How fast are your ?
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@levicki said in What users say versus what they mean:
They need to make 10 wrong attempts to get blocked for an hour.
I hope they at least get a proper massage telling them it was their login or password that was wrong.
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Apparently according to some people in this thread, if I try to login with name TDWTF with password hunter2 but I typed the login name as TRWTF instead, and name TRWTF is already taken, they'll claim that the system should tell your username is correct? How does that help me recover at all? Or that technically speaking, it should be counted as someone tried to login with TRWTF with wrong password hunter2? So they mean enumerating the same correcthorsebatterystaple against many users should be considered as many users oopsi-ing the same time and all made a wrong login with the exact same password at roughly the same time?
It's wrong to assume that when users typo they always typo the password. They can typo the username too. (That's why lots of sites have "forget username" feature in the first place).
Though I should point out that for typical sites, even if you don't expose username information in the login flow they're still trivially accessible from the register flow because it checks immediately if a username has been taken. So if you want to hide this piece of information, you need to re-design other flows too.
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Hehehe, speaking of username enumeration, I was playing around with Brian Lunduke's BBS server and...
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@Karla said in What users say versus what they mean:
No matter how I adjust the image your dress still looks blue.
That's... pretty awesome.
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@PJH said in What users say versus what they mean:
How does the second wheel help you 'cruise the net faster'?
Now that you've already got real answers:
Obviously, if you use two fingers to scroll both wheels at the same time, you can get much higher scrolling speeds.
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@topspin said in What users say versus what they mean:
@PJH said in What users say versus what they mean:
How does the second wheel help you 'cruise the net faster'?
Now that you've already got real answers:
Obviously, if you use two fingers to scroll both wheels at the same time, you can get much higher scrolling speeds.
This mouse is great for those cases where you need two hackers simultaneously typing on the same keyboard.
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@dcon said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Polygeekery said in What users say versus what they mean:
Kids. You forgot about kids.
And cats. Evil little furry creatures.
Joss once managed to stand on my keyboard and delete all my email
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@Cursorkeys oh god keywords
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@The_Quiet_One said in What users say versus what they mean:
The only thing that's missing is the "Y2K Compliant" sticker.
Since it's going to be another 996 years before it's an issue, I don't think it occurred to them...
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@dcon said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Polygeekery said in What users say versus what they mean:
Kids. You forgot about kids.
And cats. Evil little furry creatures.
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@Zerosquare said in What users say versus what they mean:
And it existed long before Apple's implementation. I have an old PS/2 mouse with two scroll wheels, built in ~1998.
Quite likely. However, what percentage of non-Mac-users have a mouse that allows that, and what percentage of Mac-users?
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@Cursorkeys said in What users say versus what they mean:
@dcon said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Polygeekery said in What users say versus what they mean:
Kids. You forgot about kids.
And cats. Evil little furry creatures.
Joss once managed to stand on my keyboard and delete all my email
Heh, I remember that program!
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@Luhmann said in What users say versus what they mean:
@levicki said in What users say versus what they mean:
They need to make 10 wrong attempts to get blocked for an hour.
I hope they at least get a proper massage telling them it was their login or password that was wrong.
That sounds like it would get expensive. And the wrong message to send. Unless the massage is delivered with one of these:
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@M_Adams said in What users say versus what they mean:
@dcon said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Polygeekery said in What users say versus what they mean:
Kids. You forgot about kids.
And cats. Evil little furry creatures.
I think i’ve some posts here one of the cats “helped” with...
Filed under: That’s my story, and i’m sticking to it...
One of mine "helped" me to the hospital.
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@Luhmann said in What users say versus what they mean:
proper massage
I like the Chinese Tui na massage personally.
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@Karla
with or without happy ending?
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@Luhmann said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Karla
with or without happy ending?Well, I'm happy in the end.
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@Karla said in What users say versus what they mean:
One of mine "helped" me to the hospital.
Kitty landmine on the stairs?
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@Cursorkeys said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Karla said in What users say versus what they mean:
One of mine "helped" me to the hospital.
Kitty landmine on the stairs?
Bit me when I was trying to take her to the vet.
Apparently cat bites are pretty serious.
Emergency surgery Friday evening from one of the leading hand surgeons in the country, Dr. Harold Dick. Five days in the hospital with IV antibiotics and 10 more days of very strong oral antibiotics.
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Also, INB4 QooC.
@Karla said in What users say versus what they mean:
10 more days of very strong oral
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@Luhmann said in What users say versus what they mean:
How fast are your ?
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