Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...
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Won't bother linking any of the tweets - there's sufficient in the article.
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https://spectator.us/petty-crime-london-new-york-times/
Cockburn is actually the name of the writer... Maybe it's one of Elfwick's alts?
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@DogsB said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
Cockburn is actually the name of the writer... Maybe it's one of Elfwick's alts?
Given it's not pronounced with the
ck
in the middle...
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@PJH said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
@DogsB said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
Cockburn is actually the name of the writer... Maybe it's one of Elfwick's alts?
Given it's not pronounced with the
ck
in the middle...I will always pronounce it that way!
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@PJH said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
@DogsB said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
Cockburn is actually the name of the writer... Maybe it's one of Elfwick's alts?
Given it's not pronounced with the
ck
in the middle...Yes, I wonder why they changed the pronunciation …
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@Gurth said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
@PJH said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
@DogsB said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
Cockburn is actually the name of the writer... Maybe it's one of Elfwick's alts?
Given it's not pronounced with the
ck
in the middle...Yes, I wonder why they changed the pronunciation …
Well, England (and also New England, FWIW) frequently simplifies the pronunciation of place names to the point where it's barely recognizable. So it's not certain that it's for the obvious reason.
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@tharpa said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
Well, England (and also New England, FWIW) frequently simplifies the pronunciation of place names to the point where it's barely recognizable.
Siobhan Fetherstonhaugh.
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@DogsB said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
https://spectator.us/petty-crime-london-new-york-times/
Cockburn is actually the name of the writer... Maybe it's one of Elfwick's alts?
It is pronounced Co-burn
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@sweaty_gammon said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
@DogsB said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
https://spectator.us/petty-crime-london-new-york-times/
Cockburn is actually the name of the writer... Maybe it's one of Elfwick's alts?
It is pronounced Co-burn
there's a ck in it. I am going to pronounce it with it.
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@tharpa said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
@Gurth said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
@PJH said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
@DogsB said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
Cockburn is actually the name of the writer... Maybe it's one of Elfwick's alts?
Given it's not pronounced with the
ck
in the middle...Yes, I wonder why they changed the pronunciation …
Well, England (and also New England, FWIW) frequently simplifies the pronunciation of place names to the point where it's barely recognizable. So it's not certain that it's for the obvious reason.
What other excuse could there be for the pronunciation of Worcestershire?
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@sweaty_gammon said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
@DogsB said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
https://spectator.us/petty-crime-london-new-york-times/
Cockburn is actually the name of the writer... Maybe it's one of Elfwick's alts?
It is pronounced Co-burn
Oh, I thought it was "coke-birhn"...
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@anotherusername said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
What other excuse could there be for the pronunciation of Worcestershire?
Or:
Alnwick.
Bicester.
Hunstanton
Leominster.
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@PJH said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
Wus-ter
Didn't you forget something, though? It's Wus-ter-shire.
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@anotherusername said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
@PJH said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
Wus-ter
Didn't you forget something, though? It's Wus-ter-shire.
No, it's only two syllables*. It's only three if suffixed by 'sauce:'
* though thinking about it, this might be a regional thing...
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@PJH said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
@anotherusername said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
@PJH said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
Wus-ter
Didn't you forget something, though? It's Wus-ter-shire.
No, it's only two syllables*. It's only three if suffixed by 'sauce:'
* though thinking about it, this might be a regional thing...
Yeah, I could never find Wooster on a map.
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@PJH Wikipedia says that it's 3 syllables, FWIW.
Worcestershire (/ˈwʊstərʃər/ (listen) WUUS-tər-shər, /-ʃɪər/ -sheer; written abbreviation: Worcs) is a county in the West Midlands of England.
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@anotherusername quoted in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
Worcestershire (/ˈwʊstərʃər/ (listen) WUUS-tər-shər, /-ʃɪər/ -sheer; written abbreviation: Worcs) is a county in the West Midlands of England.
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@PJH from the latter,
It's not yet another British pronunciation quirk, it's simply custom to shorten the name
Pretty much says that it's not the "real" UK pronunciation, it's a shortened version, and also a regional/custom thing to shorten it or not.
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@PJH said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
@anotherusername said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
What other excuse could there be for the pronunciation of Worcestershire?
Or:
Alnwick.
Bicester.
Hunstanton
Leominster.
But Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch is pronounced just like it's spelled.
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@da-Doctah said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
But Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch is pronounced just like it's spelled.
Given the first syllable fails in English, and there's too many vowels for that to be a sensible Welsh word, it's debatable as to whether it counts...
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@PJH said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
it's debatable as to whether it counts...
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@No_1 "longest word"... almost as bad as the people who claim titin counts (and seem unaware of just how many spaces it contains)
edit: ah lol, he mentions that one 20 seconds in.
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@No_1 said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
What's The Longest Word In The English Language?
Again, it's not English, it's Welsh. "In a British Language" might just pass a smell test.
And translated into English it means "St Mary's church in the hollow of the white hazel near to the fierce whirlpool of St Tysilio of the red cave"
IOW, it was a 19th century publicity stunt.
A local committee was put together to try and encourage trains, travellers and 19th century tourists to stop at the village in order to help develop the village as a commercial and tourist centre. It is believed that the name Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch was invented by a cobbler from Menai Bridge. Little did he know that he had implemented one of the most successful tourist marketing plans of all time! Today the village is signposted as Llanfairpwllgwyngyll and is known to locals as Llanfairpwll or Llanfair. P.G.
Much the same could be done in German, and probably more cromulently.
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@PJH said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
it's not English, it's Welsh
Correct. The video describes Llanfair as "the longest place name in the UK", then goes on to discuss the longest words in English.
IOW, it was a 19th century publicity stunt
Also mentioned in the video.
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@Karla said in [Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...](/post
Yeah, I could never find Wooster on a map.
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@dcon said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
@Karla said in [Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...](/post
Yeah, I could never find Wooster on a map.
Weird, that's no where near Boston.
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@No_1 said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
The video
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Especially since it's Tom Scott - I find him annoying in his Computerphile videos; can't imagine what he's like with Lingusitics[1]....
1 Yes, I realise the irony of justifying this with another video, but
Talk like a pirate.
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@Karla said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
Weird, that's no where near Boston.
You're thinking of Worcester, not Wooster.
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@lolwhat said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
@Karla said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
Weird, that's no where near Boston.
You're thinking of Worcester, not Wooster.
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@Karla said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
Wooster
That's the name of one of my former CS teachers.
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@HardwareGeek Uh, no. :)
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@Gribnit said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
I think only @boomzilla and maybe @antiquarian are actually old enough that he could have been their teacher. :P
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@HardwareGeek said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
Wrong gender, wrong profession, and too old.
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@djls45 Timothy Wooster? http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=150961 ?
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@Gribnit said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
@djls45 Timothy Wooster? http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=150961 ?
Wrong state and wrong field.
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@djls45 said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
@Gribnit said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
I think only @boomzilla and maybe @antiquarian are actually old enough that he could have been their teacher. :P
Don't forget @HardwareGeek. He and Nebuchadnezzar were roommates in college.
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@Polygeekery Yeah? Well, you've got a few onions on your belt, too, buddy!
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@Polygeekery
My avatar's dog?
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@Luhmann What... the... hell...? Where's that dog's neck?
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@JBert I'm more concerned about the back of its head.
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@JBert said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
Where's that dog's neck?
got lost in transit from his home planet.
but the talking fly really is from earth.
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@Luhmann Is that dog half-Canadian?
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@hungrier
bottom or top part?
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@kazitor said in Petty crime in London? NYT wants to know about it...:
@JBert I'm more concerned about the back of its head.
That's just behind its ears, no?