Australia transcends mathematics
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The laws of Australia will trump the laws of mathematics: Turnbull
Despite calling the laws of mathematics 'commendable', the prime minister of Australia told ZDNet the only law that applies in Australia is the law of Australia when it comes to legislating decryption.
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@pie_flavor Unfortunately for Turnbull, the laws of mathematics prevail and no matter what, 45 is simply more than 40...
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July 14, 2017
Thought it seemed familiar...
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@pie_flavor UK and US also attempted ban encryption, a policy which seems to be adopted by countries whose politics are, let's say, interesting to only those citizens influenced by trickery and duress...
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@PJH
Threads are free.
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@Shoreline A while ago, yes, when the details weren't really well understood.
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If you have an interest in having the tools to program, it is probably a good idea to keep a copy of bouncycastle (or equivalent) local.
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@Deadfast said in Australia transcends mathematics:
@pie_flavor Unfortunately for Turnbull, the laws of mathematics prevail and no matter what, 45 is simply more than 40...
Amusingly, when the laws of mathematics were in his favour, he's all for them apparently.
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@Douglasac If only California learned that. Also, welcome back!
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@pie_flavor said in Australia transcends mathematics:
If only California learned that.
How so?
Also, welcome back!
I never really left, I just didn't have anything interesting or relevant to say.
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@Douglasac said in Australia transcends mathematics:
I just didn't have anything interesting or relevant to say.
Don't let that ever stop you from posting!
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I saw the thread and immediately went ZDNet is making onion style posts now eh and then clicked the link and boy oh boy! What the fuck!
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@stillwater said in Australia transcends mathematics:
I saw the thread and immediately went ZDNet is making onion style posts now eh and then clicked the link and boy oh boy! What the fuck!
Bear in mind this is a party that wrote a law about metadata retention while seemingly having no idea how it would work for online applications.
edit: accidentally a word
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@Douglasac What's with all the stammering? Jesus!
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@stillwater Because he is an idiot.
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@Douglasac said in Australia transcends mathematics:
I never really left, I just didn't have anything interesting or relevant to say.
Have you met Gribnit?
At least you are coherent.
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@Douglasac said in Australia transcends mathematics:
I never really left, I just didn't have anything interesting or relevant to say.
Doesn't stop the rest of us...
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@dcon For instance, there's one guy who claims to own IT companies but never posts anything but RWNJ trolls. But totally isn't alt-right. No-one knows what languages, if any, he can even fizzbuzz in.
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@Douglasac said in Australia transcends mathematics:
@pie_flavor said in Australia transcends mathematics:
If only California learned that.
How so?
Figuring out what policies of theirs are contributing to the economic pit of despair rather than making more of them.
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@PJH said in Australia transcends mathematics:
July 14, 2017
Thought it seemed familiar...
Does zdnet not have dates set in their meta tags?
checks source code
Ok, they have 25 blank lines before the document starts, and the
</head>tag on line 291 is followed immediately by a<body>tag with aclassattribute set to a line break.
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@pie_flavor said in Australia transcends mathematics:
when the details weren't really well understood
You mean like in the 1990s when Computer Hacker Matt Blaze was showing Congress how bad of an idea the clipper chip was?
Here's a video about that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsjZ2r9Ygzw
Oh wait, I almost forgot: Matt is still trying to get them to understand the very basic details of technology:
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@pie_flavor said in Australia transcends mathematics:
Figuring out what policies of theirs are contributing to the economic pit of despair rather than making more of them.
That won't necessarily help. Some politicians want an economic pit of despair because they, their families and their cronies can make a profit from it.
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@BrisingrAerowing said in Australia transcends mathematics:
He's talking shit about @Polygeekery. I believe that he owns only one IT company, actually. I've never met him myself, although we live in the same state (allegedly).
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@stillwater That conversation would have been a lot quicker if either party new the word "domain name".
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Now, with worse!
So, how long while https://bouncycastle.org/ can still be trusted? Negative amounts of time? Positive?
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@Gribnit said in Australia transcends mathematics:
So, how long while https://bouncycastle.org/ can still be trusted? Negative amounts of time? Positive?
I would say that the parent site can no longer be trusted, nor future releases on external mirrors, but packages uploaded to NuGet.org prior to today are probably okay.
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This all started when the party made that O'Brien bloke PM for a week.
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I've actually emailed my MP in the UK about the British Government's attitude towards cryptography. He seems to understand that the genie is already out of the bottle.
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@sweaty_gammon said in Australia transcends mathematics:
He seems to understand
Wanna swap MPs? I've got an idiot.
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@PJH said in Australia transcends mathematics:
@sweaty_gammon said in Australia transcends mathematics:
He seems to understand
Wanna swap MPs? I've got an idiot.
It is a shame.
BTW: Listening to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjI7QhrKoio
I am like 7 minutes in and the two people that I haven't ever seen before are talking shite.
I don't support the Green Party or the Tories but Caroline Lucas and Jacob Rees Mogg at least state their positions clearly.
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@sweaty_gammon said in Australia transcends mathematics:
I am like 7 minutes in and the two people that I haven't ever seen before are talking shite.
It's Brexit. They're all probably talking shite.
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@PJH said in Australia transcends mathematics:
@sweaty_gammon said in Australia transcends mathematics:
I am like 7 minutes in and the two people that I haven't ever seen before are talking shite.
It's Brexit. They're all probably talking shite.
Well Mogg and Lucas aren't so far at least.
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@sweaty_gammon said in Australia transcends mathematics:
@PJH said in Australia transcends mathematics:
@sweaty_gammon said in Australia transcends mathematics:
I am like 7 minutes in and the two people that I haven't ever seen before are talking shite.
It's Brexit. They're all probably talking shite.
Well Mogg and Lucas aren't so far at least.
They're both politicians so the only way I can imagine that happening is if their microphone wasn't working.
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@Deadfast said in Australia transcends mathematics:
They're both politicians so the only way I can imagine that happening is if their microphone wasn't working.
Or their lips aren't moving.
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Has Mogg ever talked anything other than shite?
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@Jaloopa said in Australia transcends mathematics:
Has Mogg ever talked anything other than shite?
Perhaps occasionally, by accident, when he thinks the plebs aren't listening?
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@Deadfast said in Australia transcends mathematics:
@sweaty_gammon said in Australia transcends mathematics:
@PJH said in Australia transcends mathematics:
@sweaty_gammon said in Australia transcends mathematics:
I am like 7 minutes in and the two people that I haven't ever seen before are talking shite.
It's Brexit. They're all probably talking shite.
Well Mogg and Lucas aren't so far at least.
They're both politicians so the only way I can imagine that happening is if their microphone wasn't working.
This is an idiotic mindset that has been propagated since before I have been alive.
It assumes that everyone that is a public speaker is lying to you, which is misanthropic at best.
It is more reasonable to evaluate their arguments as given. If the argument is lacking you can make your own mind up at the ballot box.
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@Jaloopa said in Australia transcends mathematics:
Has Mogg ever talked anything other than shite?
Please state an example. I personally think he speaks clearly and unlike a lot of politicians he actually answers questions.
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@dkf said in Australia transcends mathematics:
@Jaloopa said in Australia transcends mathematics:
Has Mogg ever talked anything other than shite?
Perhaps occasionally, by accident, when he thinks the plebs aren't listening?
It is easy to be a critic. From what I've seen so far most of the critiques have been "I think he is an idiot". None of them explain why, they just take it as a given.
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@sweaty_gammon said in Australia transcends mathematics:
@Deadfast said in Australia transcends mathematics:
@sweaty_gammon said in Australia transcends mathematics:
@PJH said in Australia transcends mathematics:
@sweaty_gammon said in Australia transcends mathematics:
I am like 7 minutes in and the two people that I haven't ever seen before are talking shite.
It's Brexit. They're all probably talking shite.
Well Mogg and Lucas aren't so far at least.
They're both politicians so the only way I can imagine that happening is if their microphone wasn't working.
This is an idiotic mindset that has been propagated since before I have been alive.
It assumes that everyone that is a public speaker is lying to you, which is misanthropic at best.
It is more reasonable to evaluate their arguments as given. If the argument is lacking you can make your own mind up at the ballot box.
It's a reasonable assumption. You usually end up being right.
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@sweaty_gammon
Oi gammon, watch your BP, or you'll do yourself a mischief!
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@sweaty_gammon said in Australia transcends mathematics:
It assumes that everyone that is a public speaker is lying to you, which is misanthropic at best.
Firstly, I said politician, not public speaker. Secondly, ever stopped to think why that might be the case?
TURNBULL RESIGNS
Wow, what a lovely early Christmas present for Australians: A crypto-busting super-snoop law passes just in time
