WTF Bites


  • 🚽 Regular

    Not IT but hopefully people get a Sensible Chuckle out of this. I thought the biggest automotive WTF was the placement of the oil filter on my last car but this is amazing:

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  • Java Dev

    Unsure where to post this, but here's a job ad:

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    Although I think what they need is only the Fantastic Four guy who is on fire to do a thorough tour of their offices.


  • BINNED

    Was looking for an image. Google found it on Pinterest. I click it.

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    Those are my two actual Google accounts. Popping up as choices on Pinterest. HOW? WHY IN THE FUCK CAN YOU ACCESS THAT INFO?

    Jesus fuck. If this is the alternative, give me double the fucking GDPR.

    EDIT: I should probably add: it just popped up on its own, I clicked NOTHING.



  • From a "discussion" with a Brexiteer. Names omitted to protect the moron participants:

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    :wtf:


  • Banned

    @Rhywden speaking of. What's the happening status of Brexit right now?

    Edit: just realized we're outside the garage. If anyone wants to answer my question, you'd better reply as new topic.



  • @Gąska said in WTF Bites:

    @Rhywden speaking of. What's the happening status of Brexit right now?

    Pure, unadulterated chaos on the UK side, or so it seems. For people who proudly proclaim that they want to make plenty of good (trade) deals come Brexit, they can't seem to find their own arse with a map, GPS and a batallion of flight controllers.

    Of course, if when it goes tits-up for them they'll blame the EU for not helping them out of the mess they themselves created.


  • Java Dev

    @Gąska A week and a half ago, they finally formulated what they want the relation to look like for the first time. After the weekend, two ministers left. EU doesn't like what they're reading, and UK apparently still doesn't know where they want the hard border with Ireland (and EU definitely wants one somewhere)



  • @PleegWat said in WTF Bites:

    @Gąska A week and a half ago, they finally formulated what they want the relation to look like for the first time. After the weekend, two ministers left. EU doesn't like what they're reading, and UK apparently still doesn't know where they want the hard border with Ireland (and EU definitely wants one somewhere)

    Only, the problem with their formulation is that it's based on a premise the EU has continuously rejected for the last two years (i.e. access to only three of the four freedoms, as one example).
    That's the major problem here: The UK keeps coming up with "solutions" the EU has repeatedly rejected.

    Last December they committed to "No hard border in Ireland" and now they suddenly say that it's not a solution they want.

    Plus, even their compromise white book (which the EU doesn't like) is dead in the water on the UK side.


  • Java Dev

    @Rhywden said in WTF Bites:

    Last December they committed to "No hard border in Ireland" and now they suddenly say that it's not a solution they want.

    They don't want a hard border in Ireland. They don't want a hard border between Northern Ireland and the UK either. They don't want hard borders anywhere except where it suits them.

    They are probably going to find out how hard a border can get in March when they go to GTO rules.



  • @Rhywden said in WTF Bites:

    Of course, if when it goes tits-up for them they'll blame the EU for not helping them out of the mess they themselves created.

    :hanzo: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/23/uk-public-will-blame-eu-for-no-deal-brexit-says-jeremy-hunt

    Because of course they will.



  • @PleegWat said in WTF Bites:

    They are probably going to find out how hard a border can get in March when they go to GTO rules.

    Anyone in the UK better stock up on non-perishables. I'm serious.



  • @Rhywden

    Asked whether Hunt’s threat [...] or Raab’s threat [...] were the kind of good manners usually associated of the British, Maas replied: “At the recent Nato summit I took part in bilateral talks with [the Turkish president] Mr Erdogan and Mr Trump, so good manners are always relative.”

    Trololololo


  • BINNED

    @Onyx IMO, "-pinterest.com" should be the default for all google image searches. (Or whatever the current syntax is to exclude that bastard site from results)


  • Java Dev

    @Rhywden said in WTF Bites:

    @PleegWat said in WTF Bites:

    They are probably going to find out how hard a border can get in March when they go to GTO rules.

    Anyone in the UK better stock up on non-perishables. I'm serious.

    They're going to find out that the EU at large really doesn't need them as much as they need us. Sure, some EU member countries will feel it. But none as much as the UK themselves, and the EU at large won't care.

    The EU does not want to separate the freedoms, and the EU wants to signal to other members that leaving is not a good idea.

    And if the UK decides that leaving was a bad idea after all, they might get some leniency up till March. After that, they probably get to pick between not a member and a full member. And the latter does not include the continued existence of the Great British Pound.


  • Banned

    @Rhywden said in WTF Bites:

    @Gąska said in WTF Bites:

    @Rhywden speaking of. What's the happening status of Brexit right now?

    Pure, unadulterated chaos on the UK side, or so it seems.

    A political chaos, or an actual chaos that actual people actually suffer from?


  • Java Dev

    @Gąska said in WTF Bites:

    @Rhywden said in WTF Bites:

    @Gąska said in WTF Bites:

    @Rhywden speaking of. What's the happening status of Brexit right now?

    Pure, unadulterated chaos on the UK side, or so it seems.

    A political chaos, or an actual chaos that actual people actually suffer from?

    The former. The latter will probably start showing up in March.


  • BINNED

    @topspin no kidding. Not only the image it showed me in Google results wasn't the one I got when I clicked it (maybe it's somewhere down on the page, fuck knows), it's also fucking impossible to properly link to an image directly. I have to bust out devtools every time and wrestle the DOM to find the fucking raw URI of the image. Ugh.



  • @Gąska said in WTF Bites:

    @Rhywden said in WTF Bites:

    @Gąska said in WTF Bites:

    @Rhywden speaking of. What's the happening status of Brexit right now?

    Pure, unadulterated chaos on the UK side, or so it seems.

    A political chaos, or an actual chaos that actual people actually suffer from?

    As @PleegWat said, currently it's the former but it's beginning to have a direct impact on people. I've already received some emails and letters from companies I receive services from to inform me that they're either moving completely or partially away from the UK, and they explicitly name the uncertainties of Brexit as the reason.


  • Banned

    @Rhywden wait, aren't you German?



  • @Gąska said in WTF Bites:

    @Rhywden wait, aren't you German?

    Yes. And?


  • Banned

    @Rhywden do you live in Germany?



  • @Gąska said in WTF Bites:

    @Rhywden do you live in Germany?

    Yes?


  • Banned

    @Rhywden then why did they inform customers who live in Germany that they won't be providing service to people outside Germany? It would be the most useless newsletter ever.



  • @Gąska said in WTF Bites:

    @Rhywden wait, aren't you German?

    I'm American, I do business with companies in Europe. What's the confusion?

    (Ok I really don't, but I've bought Altoids and a Braun razor before so I count those.)


  • Banned

    @blakeyrat do they inform you when VAT changes, or when they close down their Taiwan office?



  • @Gąska Yeah but I don't need the emails because it's highly correlated with the price of tea in China.

    Are you trying to make some kind of point here, and if so could you just fucking make it instead of asking vague leading questions to everybody?



  • @Gąska said in WTF Bites:

    @Rhywden then why did they inform customers who live in Germany that they won't be providing service to people outside Germany? It would be the most useless newsletter ever.

    Erm, no. They stated that they'll move the branch I have a contract with to somewhere else in the EU so that my contract remains valid.


  • Banned

    @blakeyrat I'm genuinely confused a company would send such completely useless newsletter. I've never seen anything like that, and I assumed it's because no one does something that stupid.


  • I survived the hour long Uno hand

    @pie_flavor
    And/or they locked your account for suspected impersonation of the OG account, and are just saying "system limitation" when they really mean "our mods found out you're a dirty no good impersonating bastard"


  • Banned

    @Rhywden said in WTF Bites:

    @Gąska said in WTF Bites:

    @Rhywden then why did they inform customers who live in Germany that they won't be providing service to people outside Germany? It would be the most useless newsletter ever.

    Erm, no. They stated that they'll move the branch I have a contract with to somewhere else in the EU so that my contract remains valid.

    Ah, okay. Makes more sense now. Although I find it very unusual there's more than one such company (that a German would direct business with rather than through Germany-registered entity, not running away from UK).

    Edit: also, I interpreted "moving away" as "closing business in the area", not "changing their legal residence." Yay for ambiguous language!


  • I survived the hour long Uno hand

    @Onyx
    The technical response is going to be...

    • Pinterest sets up their site so when they get an incoming referral from Google search, it redirects to (pseudoURL) pinterest.com/federatedsignin/google
    • That page says "hey, this guy came from Google, we should have him sign in with his Google account to enable our cool features"
    • Page redirects you to the Google OAuth authorization page with the flags to tell Google that Pinterest is making an OAuth request (which should also include any Google endpoints that Pinterest requested)
    • Google's OAuth page has access to your usual Google Account cookies, since it is, in fact, Google's page, so it presents you with the accounts you usually sign-in with as a default, since Pinterest didn't specify anything more specific.

    It's highly unlikely that Pinterest knows anything about your Google Accounts at that stage of the dance. Once you complete the Authorization, Pinterest's app will get an authorization token that will let it get an access token to Google's APIs, at which point Pinterest will be able to pull data about your Google account (the public-ish stuff like name & e-mail address comes with any level of authentication, but you generally get prompted at that previous authorization page for anything more private than that, ala "this app needs your permissions to sacrifice your firstborn virgin daughter")



  • @izzion The only thing slightly out of the ordinary about that is they do step 3 in an iframe so it can "look" like it's part of their own site.


  • BINNED

    @Gąska said in WTF Bites:

    [context irrelevant]
    I assumed it's because no one does something that stupid.

    YMBNH.


  • :belt_onion:

    @izzion said in WTF Bites:

    It's highly unlikely that Pinterest knows anything about your Google Accounts at that stage of the dance.

    They don't.

    It's using this: https://developers.google.com/identity/one-tap/web


  • Notification Spam Recipient

    @Onyx said in WTF Bites:

    Those are my two actual Google accounts. Popping up as choices on Pinterest. HOW? WHY IN THE FUCK CAN YOU ACCESS THAT INFO?

    They don't, Google does. Pinterest merely asks Google to ask you who you want to be represented as.

    Something shady is definitely happening if you didn't ask to log in though...



  • @Onyx said in WTF Bites:

    @topspin no kidding. Not only the image it showed me in Google results wasn't the one I got when I clicked it (maybe it's somewhere down on the page, fuck knows), it's also fucking impossible to properly link to an image directly. I have to bust out devtools every time and wrestle the DOM to find the fucking raw URI of the image. Ugh.

    Once you've clicked the thumbnail to see the larger size, right click it and select "View Image".



  • Lists of Tweets are News: The Next Generation:

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    No, I am not clicking on 25 different Twitter links to figure out what this "article" is supposed to be about. Especially not on a sports "article" that I opened by accident.



  • @mott555 Or you could tell to stop blocking Twitter, and they'd onebox...



  • @anotherusername I'm not blocking Twitter. Or if I am, it's a default option in Firefox somewhere, because I definitely never set up anything like that. This is also on a machine that is not subject to the corporate proxy/filter because it's Linux and the proxy only works on AD-joined Windows systems.

    Disabling uBlock tidies up the format a bit, but still no Twitter.

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  • BINNED

    I needed to install a Thunderbird add-on after not needing to touch any of those for about a million years. Hooo boy.

    1. In Thunderbird, go to Tools -> Add-ons
    2. Hmmm, there isn't a search bar and the page looks like half the elements didn't load. At least there's a "Browse all" link, conveniently placed in the bottom right corner among many similar looking links. Alright, let's click it.
    3. It... opens the add-ons page in Firefox? Ok, why not. Look up the add-on you need.
    4. Next to the download button it says "Works with Thunderbird 52.0-60.*". I'm on 52.9.1, so why is there the red crossed circle? Eh whatever, the link still works. Download add-on!
    5. "Firefox prevented this site from asking you to install software on your computer". Sigh... the site is thunderbird.net. Ok whatever, at least I can override it.
    6. Firefox downloads the add-on, and then tells me it prevented the site from installing it, and this time there's no override. Thanks you, Firefox.
    7. Go to about:config, set xpinstall.signatures.required to false, try again
    8. OH, THAT'S WHY THE PAGE SAYS IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE - BECAUSE FIREFOX ATTEMPTS TO INSTALL THIS FUCKING THUNDERBIRD ADD-ON INTO ITSELF!

    :headdesk:

    The correct solution is right click the download link, download the add-on somewhere, and use the "install add-on from file" option in Thunderbird's add-on manager to install the add-on. Good lord.

    Oh and as a bonus, a lot of add-ons on addons.thunderbird.net give me a message that "The add-on downloaded from this site could not be installed because it appears to be corrupt" when attempting to download them. 10/10 user experience.



  • @izzion said in WTF Bites:

    That page says "hey, this guy came from Google, we should have him sign in with his Google account to enable our cool features so that Google gives us $$$ and doesn't kill our search ranking"

    FTFY (No idea if this is actually true but seems highly likely)


  • 🚽 Regular

    I think the heat's getting to Excel, the modal dialogs are interesting today:

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  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @PleegWat said in WTF Bites:

    They don't want a hard border in Ireland. They don't want a hard border between Northern Ireland and the UK either. They don't want hard borders anywhere except where it suits them.

    It's been referred to here as cakeism: the basing of a whole political philosophy on both eating your cake and having that exact same cake saved for later. This is purest insanity, but the government is trying very hard to push it forward anyway. If there's no customs union between the UK and the EU, there must be a hard border, and the only customs union going is the Customs Union (which would require accepting ECJ rulings on at least matters pertaining to the CU, which is the political leadership of the country balks utterly). If there is a hard border, then there must be either a hard border between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland (but we have a separate UN treaty saying that we won't do that) or there must be a hard border between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK (much easier to enforce, but anathema to the DUP so a no-go politically). The UK government long favoured a solution that involved the Republic of Ireland also leaving the EU, and were very upset to find that that concept was good for little more than a belly laugh, so now they're assuming that there's some magical technical solution which can make it all work. There isn't, but they're putting their fingers in their ears and proclaiming loudly that they believe in border-control fairies anyway.

    There's also a ton of lying and cheating and so on. It's a total soap opera, and would be very much fun if they weren't in government. As it is, I don't know what new horrifying shitshow has turned up today because I was actually getting work done instead…


  • Java Dev

    @dkf Yup, that's a pretty decent summary from my POV too. Even just that Ireland border is gonna cause huge headaches in March when the negotiations have failed.

    And I wonder how long it will take the UK politicians to find out that a no-deal brexit means they still have to pay their EU bills before they get any kind of trade agreement.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @PleegWat said in WTF Bites:

    And I wonder how long it will take the UK politicians to find out that a no-deal brexit means they still have to pay their EU bills before they get any kind of trade agreement.

    Take such matters up your bookie. If you can get a good price, that is… ;)


  • 🚽 Regular

    @dkf said in WTF Bites:

    up your bookie

    Hey, no need to be rude now.


  • Considered Harmful

    @PleegWat said in WTF Bites:

    And I wonder how long it will take the UK politicians to find out that a no-deal brexit means they still have to pay their EU bills before they get any kind of trade agreement.

    The trade agreement with the US will be worth it though.


  • Considered Harmful


  • Trolleybus Mechanic

    @mott555 said in WTF Bites:

    I'm not blocking Twitter.

    uBlock might be blocking "Where targetDomain = twitterOneBox and currentDomain != twitter".

    For exactly this reason.


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