WTF Bites
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@tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
@dcoder thank $deity Microsoft got rid of all that old junk years ago, right? Right????
Only if you're running an x64 edition of Windows.
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@rhywden Oh, and by the way, just for the guys making fun of Windows for useless error messages - MacOS is just as bad in that regard.
The error message was:
There was an error.
Great, thanks.
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@rhywden Showing error messages isn't user friendly! We just need to tell them one happened, not what happened! Although depending on the error there may be an entry in one of the system logs if you care to hunt through them.
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Why do I have to install 8GB of mysterious stuff for Visual Studio to be able to just compile C++?
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@rhywden Oh, and by the way, just for the guys making fun of Windows for useless error messages - MacOS is just as bad in that regard.
The error message was:
There was an error.
Great, thanks.
It could be worse. It could be telling you to contact the administrator with the error details.
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I really enjoy the calls/emails from classified sites.
: "We have an error message from using your product."
: "Okay, what's the error?"
: "I'm not allowed to tell you, security decided that info is classified."
: "So I can't be allowed to see the error code that I wrote in a general-purpose application because it's classified?"
"That's correct."
: "..."
"Let me see what I can get past security."Six Months Later
"Okay, security declassified part of the error. It says 'Error: ████████ ████████████ ███████ ██████ █ ███████████ ███████'"
: "Sorry, I really can't help without more information."Six Months Later
"I talked with security again. They authorized me to fax you the error."
receives a fax of a hand-written note with the same message as before, including the same redactions
:Six Months Later
: "Any update? I really need to get past this error, Project ██████████ is almost two years behind schedule because of it!"Six Months Later
: "Okay, security authorized more declassification. The error is 'Error: Visual C++ Runtime 2010 Not Installed. Please Download It From Microsoft's Site Atsome Microsoft URL that redirects you 18 times before landing on a 404
' What should I do?"
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Our work email is through Gmail. I need to provide some binaries to a customer. Gmail likes to block attachments. At some point in the recent past, they must have updated so you can no longer bypass/fool the system by changing file extensions. Gmail suggests using Google Drive instead, so I upload it to Drive and send the customer a shareable link. Customer requests access. I click "Approve" on my end, and then Google denies my approval because it doesn't allow you share files with anyone outside the organization. Well then, off to FTP I go!
I hate computers.
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@anonymous234 said in WTF Bites:
Why do I have to install 8GB of mysterious stuff for Visual Studio to be able to just compile C++?
Still better than xcode.
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Well then, off to FTP I go!
USPS (or your local equivalent) works. Maybe better. Ok, that's scary.
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My tablet has finally decided it's time to install the Win 10 Spring Update or whatever. It says the C drive is too small and it needs an external USB drive for 10 GB of temp space. Apparently the 128 GB SD card doesn't count, so I found an unused 16 GB flash drive.
The problem is this tablet only has one Micro USB port. I have a USB OTG hub, but it cannot charge the tablet and hub out USB devices at the same time. There is no way for me to have power and the necessary extra storage plugged in simultaneously. I can try updating on battery power, but that sounds like a Bad Idea™, and in addition it keeps going to sleep during the update, causing it to fail.
I'm going to get "I Hate Computers" tattooed across my forehead.
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My tablet
Name and shame? I don't even have that problem on the cheapest NUC-clones!
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@tsaukpaetra It's a Nuvision, a cheap Atom-based x86-64 model from China. But my problems appear to be more with Windows 10 ignoring my SD card than with the tablet itself.
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@mott555 Not looking good. Battery is down to 42% already and the update is at 60%.
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@mott555 Not looking good. Battery is down to 42% already and the update is at 60%.
It's too bad it probably would not have let you use an iSCSI target as the "temp" drive...
Edit: Did you at least turn the brightness to min?
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@tsaukpaetra Yeah, I have a 6 TB NAS on the network. And I have a 128 GB SD card already inside the damn tablet.
EDIT: The screen is off. I have it plugged into a display via my KVM switch.
EDIT 2: Yeah this is doomed to failure. 35% battery, 61% update.
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some Microsoft URL that redirects you 18 times before landing on a 404
What, you mean the search page?
I wish I was joking.
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@mott555 Wouldn't a powered USB hub solve this?
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@blakeyrat said in WTF Bites:
@mott555 Wouldn't a powered USB hub solve this?
He probably doesn't have one that powers through the OTG side.
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@blakeyrat said in WTF Bites:
@mott555 Wouldn't a powered USB hub solve this?
It is powered, but with these OTG hubs you can either charge the device, or use it as a USB hub. Not both at the same time, because that would just be too darn useful. So if I put it in charge mode, it disconnects the flash drive.
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@blakeyrat said in WTF Bites:
@mott555 Wouldn't a powered USB hub solve this?
It is powered, but with these OTG hubs you can either charge the device, or use it as a USB hub. Not both at the same time, because that would just be too darn useful. So if I put it in charge mode, it disconnects the flash drive.
Wow, whoever designed that...
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@tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
@blakeyrat said in WTF Bites:
@mott555 Wouldn't a powered USB hub solve this?
It is powered, but with these OTG hubs you can either charge the device, or use it as a USB hub. Not both at the same time, because that would just be too darn useful. So if I put it in charge mode, it disconnects the flash drive.
Wow, whoever designed that...
I really don't see how nobody thought of this when they made the standard.
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Status: Apparently string.startsWith is not a function in IE11. Who knew?
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@tsaukpaetra Apparently string.startsWth is not either. Who knew?
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@anotherusername said in WTF Bites:
@tsaukpaetra Apparently string.startsWth is not either. Who knew?
What is the world comeing to?!?
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Sometimes it's the smallest things.
Magento template fragment:
<a href="[snip]" onclick="this.target='_blank';">[snip]</a>
Because setting
target="_blank"
right in the HTML is too simple, or something…
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@ben_lubar said in WTF Bites:
WHY IS IT USING UNDERTALE MUSIC?
Good question, especially since "Happy Birthday" is free to use.
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@AyGeePlus said in WTF Bites:
If you buy a kitchen knife the seller lasers a QR code with your id code onto it, in case you stab someone.
So if I steal an already purchased kitchen knife and stabs someone, the owner of the knife gets jailed for the murder?
Why would that make a difference, unless the knife was left in the body? Can the police tell which of several identical knives was used to stab someone just by the markings left on the body? (I do know that sometimes the type of knife can be determined by things like the depth of the cut and the condition of the edges of the wound.)
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@djls45 So you make sure to leave it somewhere that looks like you made an effort to hide it, but where the police will find it eventually.
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@mott555 How big is your C drive? Can you move 10GB off it to your SD card, at least temporarily?
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@blakeyrat said in WTF Bites:
WTF Bite: Twitter's robot that determines when content is offensive.
IIRC, the flag to hide stuff is attached to the profile, not the linked material. And the flag is set based on other users' reports of offensive content.
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not-a-murder-trap.jpg
The ESL is clearly evident in the expansion of the comma as a be-verb ellipsis. But the folding table and chairs could simply just be an easy way to cut expenses instead of a murder/slave trap. With that in mind, the (assuming provided by owner) breakfast would likely be something cheap like oatmeal (and probably as "cook-it-yourself").
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@Scarlet_Manuka Like your kitchen knife drawer, after bleaching it thoroughly? (You do keep all food-service surfaces in your kitchen bleached, right? )
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I hate computers.
I love computers.
I hate people...... Beep? ;)
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just for the guys making fun of Windows for useless error messages - MacOS is just as bad in that regard.
That's if you're lucky. IME most of the time simply nothing seems to happen, with no indication of there having been an error at all. And then you happen to take a glance at the miles-long "error" and "assertion failed" listing in Console.app and go "OMG WTF how does anything work on this computer at all?"
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@ixvedeusi said in WTF Bites:
That's if you're lucky. IME most of the time simply nothing seems to happen, with no indication of there having been an error at all. And then you happen to take a glance at the miles-long "error" and "assertion failed" listing in Console.app and go "OMG WTF how does anything work on this computer at all?"
I remember similar behaviour on Solaris, except there if something wrote to the console, it would scribble it all over your screen, overwriting the whole GUI in the process. This didn't matter most of the time, but GTK apps were really keen on splurging their guts out…
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GTK apps were really keen on splurging their guts out
GNOME apps specifically IME.
GTK has heaps of sanity checks in it that print error messages and usually cause whatever operation was requested without correct preconditions to be skipped. Sensible so far. Except then developers of GNOME use programming-by-coincidence and don't seem to mind having heaps of code that isn't doing anything lying around.
GTK itself is more properly debugged and does not print anything on its own if not misused.
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programming-by-coincidence
Filed away for further usage. It's the Industry Standard Development Technique, after all!
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@ixvedeusi … and standard (or at least well established) name for the technique (it comes from The Pragmatic Programmer).
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GTK itself is more properly debugged
Maybe it is now, but around 15 years ago? I've not used a desktop Solaris machine in a very long time; moved internally into a group that loved their IRIX and that was a very different sort of shitshow (of the “good hardware for the time, but the software sucked, and everything got stomped by PCs within a few years” variety). Solaris was pretty competent, but the CDE GUI wasn't ever great.
Ho hum. All irrelevant now.
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@scarlet_manuka said in WTF Bites:
@mott555 How big is your C drive? Can you move 10GB off it to your SD card, at least temporarily?
It's only 32 GB, and everything non-Windows is already on the SD card.
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@scarlet_manuka said in WTF Bites:
@mott555 How big is your C drive? Can you move 10GB off it to your SD card, at least temporarily?
It's only 32 GB, and everything non-Windows is already on the SD card.
Actually...I just noticed the SD card doesn't even show up in Explorer or Disk Management...
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@scarlet_manuka said in WTF Bites:
@mott555 How big is your C drive? Can you move 10GB off it to your SD card, at least temporarily?
It's only 32 GB, and everything non-Windows is already on the SD card.
Actually...I just noticed the SD card doesn't even show up in Explorer or Disk Management...
SD card reseated and now detected. Still not a valid target for Windows Update temp space.
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GTK itself is more properly debugged
Maybe it is now, but around 15 years ago?
My experience also comes mostly from 15 years ago—I preferred KDE ever since. The early versions like 1.2 worked fine if you knew what you are doing, but apparently the GNOME app devs never did. Any good programmers they had mentally masturbated over the libraries and the apps were not given much attention.
Solaris was pretty competent, but the CDE GUI wasn't ever great.
Ho hum. All irrelevant now.
Yeah, CDE was a bad joke.
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: "Any update? I really need to get past this error, Project ██████████ is almost two years behind schedule because of it!"
Six Months Later
: "Okay, security authorized more declassification. The error is 'Error: Visual C++ Runtime 2010 Not Installed. Please Download It From Microsoft's Site Atsome Microsoft URL that redirects you 18 times before landing on a 404
' What should I do?"Front page material.
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@tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
I love computers.
I hate people...... Beep? ;)
Still looking for dating options, I see.
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The early versions like 1.2 worked fine if you knew what you are doing, but apparently the GNOME app devs never did. Any good programmers they had mentally masturbated over the libraries and the apps were not given much attention.
My impression at the time was that the libraries were pretty brain-damaged, making doing anything an exercise in handling verbosity and working out how to trick the code into doing what you wanted. I guess I came from a background which was better engineered.
Also, I hope a lot that it was just mental masturbation, and that isn't something I expected to say today…