Welcome to the April Update!
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@coderpatsy said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@ben_lubar said in Welcome to the April Update!:
(Seriously, updating flash player requires a full system reboot?)
I don't know the last time that has happened to me, if ever. The updates do say they may require an update, but that's just the standard label on every update that I don't think there's even any logic to hide.
Or at least, that's my experience on Windows <= 8.1.
I didn't install Flash Player from Adobe. This was a Windows 10 required update.
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@lb_ I think that's the blue light filter. I've turned mine off but it doesn't actually turn off.
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@dangeruss said in Welcome to the April Update!:
it will happily keep running with the old executable and the old version of the library.
If it's loaded into RAM and will never be unloaded until the end of said program's life forever. You can't guarantee this.
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So my coworker just installed this update. All of the Windows 10 apps, including the fucking calculator, are crashing.
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@pie_flavor said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@lb_ I think that's the blue light filter. I've turned mine off but it doesn't actually turn off.
No, that turns on and off as normal just fine. It's working correctly as far as I can tell. It's just ever so slightly lighter either way - it's easy to tell when the second monitor is not yet broken.
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Well I figured out a way to fix it, I changed the pixel format setting in AMD Radeon Settings for one monitor, both monitors flickered, and then both monitors were fixed even though I only changed the setting for one of them. I changed the setting for the other too just to be sure and restarted, and it seems to have held. Guess Windows had set some default somewhere that AMD overrode. Hope this helps someone...
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@deadfast
E_NO_REPRO
https://i.imgur.com/HizJAZz.png
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@lb_
You might try reinstalling the Radeon software via AMD’s website, and tick the “clean install” option in the installer. These major CUs being upgrade-in-place OS reinstalls does dumb crap with drivers (my usual problem is the monitors never going into sleep mode because my specialty keyboard or mouse makes the computer think it’s always in use, despite not sending actual inputs).
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Mine took about half an hour and I had the confirm one device driver update after restart.
We'll see how it goes at work later this week.
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Well, the update refuses to install on my home computer. I thought it may have been something with loading the Windows bootloader through grub (you never know), but just booting Windows directly had the same effect of the computer freezing on the Windows logo with zero activity happening. Rebooting once or twice just triggers the auto-revert, and I get the same error code. We'll see if I manage to fix the problem, or if I'll just resort to complete reinstall instead. I may or may not do that anyway when Mint 19 arrives.
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@atazhaia said in Welcome to the April Update!:
I am not welcome to the april update. The install failed. After reboot it just got stuck on the Windows logo, with no apparent computer activity, and after a couple reboots of just getting stuck on the logo it did a rollback.
Had that with Creators, the only solution was full reinstall.
EDIT: I doubt it was GRUB in my case, it actually rebooted like twice (at 35% and 50%, from memory), and got stuck after second reboot at something like 70%. If it were GRUB it'd just fail right away. Right? RIGHT?
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@jaloopa said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@magus said in Welcome to the April Update!:
It lets them have buttons the same color as the background, while still helping you not miss clicking on them
OK, but that presupposes that buttons the same colour as the background is something anybody would ever wany
They have to justify paying ridiculous salaries to artists to convince us that we're the problem for not liking their ridiculous ideas somehow.
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@dangeruss said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@el_heffe said in Welcome to the April Update!:
WTF is Microsoft doing that takes so long?
Computing the hashes of the old and new files to make sure that the file really changed before updating it?
That sounds sort of logical, and i wouldn't be surprised if that's what is happening. But it is also completely retarded.
Unless I secretly hacked into their Windows development network, it isn't possible for me to have files that are newer, or even the same age, as what Microsoft has. Since, Microsoft already knows what files they have changed since the last release the update should just copy those files to my hard drive. Done.
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@izzion said in Welcome to the April Update!:
You might try reinstalling the Radeon software via AMD’s website, and tick the “clean install” option in the installer. These major CUs being upgrade-in-place OS reinstalls does dumb crap with drivers (my usual problem is the monitors never going into sleep mode because my specialty keyboard or mouse makes the computer think it’s always in use, despite not sending actual inputs).
I guess you missed my earlier post where I mentioned I reformatted my drive and installed the update from scratch - there was no upgrade involved. I installed the latest version of AMD's drivers, 18.4.1, and the problem existed both before and after I did so.
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@lb_
Ah, whoops. Skimming strikes again.
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@topspin I think the theory is that, if you are using a Microsoft account with Windows, you would set a nice long secure password that is a pain in the ass to type in however many times a day to prevent it being bruteforced or whatever online, and you use the PIN to login because it's easier to remember and type.
Shitty idea? Could go either way.
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@el_heffe said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@dangeruss said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@el_heffe said in Welcome to the April Update!:
WTF is Microsoft doing that takes so long?
Computing the hashes of the old and new files to make sure that the file really changed before updating it?
That sounds sort of logical, and i wouldn't be surprised if that's what is happening. But it is also completely retarded.
Unless I secretly hacked into their Windows development network, it isn't possible for me to have files that are newer, or even the same age, as what Microsoft has. Since, Microsoft already knows what files they have changed since the last release the update should just copy those files to my hard drive. Done.
I guess you've never changed the date on your computer to be in the future?
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@dangeruss said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@el_heffe said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@dangeruss said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@el_heffe said in Welcome to the April Update!:
WTF is Microsoft doing that takes so long?
Computing the hashes of the old and new files to make sure that the file really changed before updating it?
That sounds sort of logical, and i wouldn't be surprised if that's what is happening. But it is also completely retarded.
Unless I secretly hacked into their Windows development network, it isn't possible for me to have files that are newer, or even the same age, as what Microsoft has. Since, Microsoft already knows what files they have changed since the last release the update should just copy those files to my hard drive. Done.
I guess you've never changed the date on your computer to be in the future?
No. Why would I do that?
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@el_heffe said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@dangeruss said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@el_heffe said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@dangeruss said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@el_heffe said in Welcome to the April Update!:
WTF is Microsoft doing that takes so long?
Computing the hashes of the old and new files to make sure that the file really changed before updating it?
That sounds sort of logical, and i wouldn't be surprised if that's what is happening. But it is also completely retarded.
Unless I secretly hacked into their Windows development network, it isn't possible for me to have files that are newer, or even the same age, as what Microsoft has. Since, Microsoft already knows what files they have changed since the last release the update should just copy those files to my hard drive. Done.
I guess you've never changed the date on your computer to be in the future?
No. Why would I do that?
For fun and profit? I remember doing it a few times for whatever reason, and I'm sure it happens by accident too. The point is microsoft can't trust that the file dates on your files are accurate.
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@lb_ Random games will just turn off whatever display calibration you have set, if some of their things are set up wrong. It happens to me rather often. I don't know why they all have to turn the whole screen's gamma up.
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Windows 10 ain't done 'til Chrome don't run!
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@boomzilla This sounds like @pie_flavor's problem.
From the Reddit thread it looks like disabling hardware acceleration might help and/or Win+Ctrl+Shift+B to reset the display driver (never heard of that shortcut before). It also doesn't seem to be isolated to Chrome.
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@el_heffe said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@dangeruss said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@el_heffe said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@dangeruss said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@el_heffe said in Welcome to the April Update!:
WTF is Microsoft doing that takes so long?
Computing the hashes of the old and new files to make sure that the file really changed before updating it?
That sounds sort of logical, and i wouldn't be surprised if that's what is happening. But it is also completely retarded.
Unless I secretly hacked into their Windows development network, it isn't possible for me to have files that are newer, or even the same age, as what Microsoft has. Since, Microsoft already knows what files they have changed since the last release the update should just copy those files to my hard drive. Done.
I guess you've never changed the date on your computer to be in the future?
No. Why would I do that?
To get your daily rewards on candy crush early?
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I know Steam sometimes won't update visibly until resized recently on my most up-to-date machines.
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@dangeruss said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@el_heffe said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@dangeruss said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@el_heffe said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@dangeruss said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@el_heffe said in Welcome to the April Update!:
WTF is Microsoft doing that takes so long?
Computing the hashes of the old and new files to make sure that the file really changed before updating it?
That sounds sort of logical, and i wouldn't be surprised if that's what is happening. But it is also completely retarded.
Unless I secretly hacked into their Windows development network, it isn't possible for me to have files that are newer, or even the same age, as what Microsoft has. Since, Microsoft already knows what files they have changed since the last release the update should just copy those files to my hard drive. Done.
I guess you've never changed the date on your computer to be in the future?
No. Why would I do that?
For fun and profit? I remember doing it a few times for whatever reason, and I'm sure it happens by accident too. The point is microsoft can't trust that the file dates on your files are accurate.
The clock on my multiboot system goes all over the place. Different Linux distros and Windows treat the hardware clock differently. One of them treats the hardware clock like its UTC and does a calculation for the display time, another just "fixes" the hardware clock incorrectly, and another displays the hardware clock directly with no offsets. I can't trust the time on that PC and I can't be bothered to go into each OS and figure out what needs to be done to make it all consistent.
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OK, diving in in a few minutes. Wish me luck!
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@kt_ I wouldn't do it. The text/language looks very corrupted and it's not even installed yet!
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@boomzilla said in Welcome to the April Update!:
the browser intermittently freezing up without any justifiable reason on machines with different specs.
Is that ever justifiable for any program on any machine? Explainable, yes. Excusable, maybe. Justifiable, no.
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@kt_ Should we be worried that we haven't heard back after 14 hours?
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@magus said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@lb_ Not all features require the major update these days. Some system components are independent.
Software components that are independent of other software components? Must be amazing feat of engineering for the Windows team.
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@boomzilla Let's wait until 24 hours have passed and then let's mount the search & rescue.
Also, I spent 40 minutes trying to get my home computer to revert back after the latest botched update attempt. Starting to look more likely that I will have to do a full reinstall to get the update in.
And I shall spend the afternoon getting my work computer up to date, so it wont happen during a bad time buring the next month. It is newer, so less likely to fail, right?
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@atazhaia I scheduled the update to happen at 13:15, as seen in the screenshot. Windows has gone senile and is implying something else, now saying I choose the time 13:21 instead.
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@boomzilla said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@kt_ Should we be worried that we haven't heard back after 14 hours?
I read the rest of the thread and I decided I'd postpone till I can.
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@kt_ That seems wise.
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Success!
Also updated the firmware for the TPM as Windows Defender whined about it being needed. I'm not using it atm, but I suppose it could be useful if I do decide to start making use of it. Also, for some reason, Windows decided to automatically activate focus mode for my presentation after the reboot. Apparently, Windows thinks that because I have an external monitor connected it must mean I am holding a presentation.
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Weird, now Windows is saying some settings are managed by group policy, even though I haven't done anything related to group policy or registry edits.
When I go to those policies in the group policy editor they are not configured...EDIT: and then it just disappeared. It seems some intel update is trying to install and not succeeding...
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@lb_ said in Welcome to the April Update!:
It seems some intel update is trying to install and not succeeding...
Of course, every Windows issue is a hardware one
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@timebandit said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@lb_ said in Welcome to the April Update!:
It seems some intel update is trying to install and not succeeding...
Of course, every Windows issue is a hardware one
As it turns out, disconnecting my bluetooth devices allowed the update to succeed. Otherwise it would just require a restart and fail. I came to that conclusion because literally the only intel component in my computer is the bluetooth adapter...
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TIL how to reset the graphics driver, thanks @heterodox. That actually would have come in handy about a million times on other computers - you have no idea what shenanigans TF2 likes to play on underpowered computers.
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@heterodox said in Welcome to the April Update!:
Win+Ctrl+Shift+B to reset the display driver
Hooray for discoverability
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The update fixed 1.5 of the biggest problems the last update introduced so I'm pretty happy.
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@atazhaia Wow the Eurospeak word for "version" is "version"! Who'da thunk it.
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@coldandtired said in Welcome to the April Update!:
The update fixed 1.5 of the biggest problems the last update introduced so I'm pretty happy.
Only 98.5 problems left to fix then
FileUnder: How many problems did this update introduced?
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@atazhaia said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@atazhaia I scheduled the update to happen at 13:15, as seen in the screenshot. Windows has gone senile and is implying something else, now saying I choose the time 13:21 instead.
Data loss doing a round trip conversion via floats?
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@kt_ I've updated 5 machines and 4 VMs with no issues in any of them so far...
edit: Oh, it removed HomeGroup on one machine and the Realtek audio management program (whatever that was called) on another due to incompatibilities...
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@timebandit said in Welcome to the April Update!:
@coldandtired said in Welcome to the April Update!:
The update fixed 1.5 of the biggest problems the last update introduced so I'm pretty happy.
Only 98.5 problems left to fix then
FileUnder: How many problems did this update introduced?
I've got 99 problems but Windows April Update ain't one!
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@heterodox said in Welcome to the April Update!:
Win+Ctrl+Shift+B to reset the display driver
Every time my display driver crashes or freezes, it either fixes itself or the system is HARD frozen (caps lock won't even toggle).
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Out of curiosity I booted up the office's HoloLens to see if it, too, got an update.
Well, yes and no? It's been two years (apparently) since it was turned on, so we'll see if I get to do another update after this update...
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@dcon Or Windows being "helpful" and deciding I needed another 6 minutes to get ready, even though I set the time to be 10 minutes after I'd be done using the computer for important stuff.
In other news, I gave up on 1803 installing nicely on my home computer. Guess it's the full reinstall, then...
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@boomzilla said in Welcome to the April Update!:
I've got 99 problems but Windows April Update ain't one!
It's quite a lot of them, not just one!