Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!
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Whenever I upload an image-- and this is on both FF Desktop 28, and FF Mobile Latest, there's a good 10-30 second delay when the browser just freezes.
![0_1518202615771_spark plugs 20180209_134623 2.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1518202616712-spark-plugs-20180209_134623-2-resized.jpg)
It's AFTER the image is uploaded, and the text above is inserted. At that point it just freezes.
That's just a normal image I took with my phone.
It occurs AFTER the post to
https://what.thedailywtf.com/api/post/upload
has completed and returned.[{"url":"/assets/uploads/files/1518202687152-spark-plugs-20180209_134623-23-resized.jpg","path":"/usr/src/app/public/uploads/files/1518202687152-spark-plugs-20180209_134623-23.jpg","name":"spark plugs 20180209_134623 23.jpg"}]
So I assume NodeBB is doing some dumbshittery in the browser to peg it at 100% CPU for literally no reason.
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@lorne-kates does pasting in that image markdown have the same effect? I wonder if it has to do with the steganography script.
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@ben_lubar said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
@lorne-kates does pasting in that image markdown have the same effect? I wonder if it has to do with the steganography script.
Pasting images in FireFox was never implemented.
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@ben_lubar said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
@lorne-kates does pasting in that image markdown have the same effect? I wonder if it has to do with the steganography script.
That. But it only freezes for a few seconds on my computer.
Any way you could make it do that in the background?
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@lorne-kates said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
Pasting images in FireFox was never implemented.
WOMM...
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@lorne-kates As Mason said, yes it is.
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@erufael said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
@lorne-kates As Mason said, yes it is.
Not in my version, or in FF Mobile Latest.
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@lorne-kates said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
Pasting images in FireFox was never implemented.
That's great, but I asked you to paste text into a text box.
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@lorne-kates WOMM. Try Chrome.
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@ben_lubar said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
@lorne-kates said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
Pasting images in FireFox was never implemented.
That's great, but I asked you to paste text into a text box.
Anyways, I did paste text into a textbox. The composer textbox. And it gave that error.
Watch me paste: text
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@pie_flavor said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
@lorne-kates WOMM. Try Chrome.
Try Firefox 28.
@pie_flavor said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
@lorne-kates WOMM. Try Chrome.
edit oh goodie a THIRD bug. Off to the bug reports. Again.
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@lorne-kates said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
Try Firefox 28.
Why the fuck would I use a release that old of constantly updated software?
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@pie_flavor said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
@lorne-kates said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
Try Firefox 28.
Why the fuck would I use a release that old of constantly updated software?
Enjoy your Ass Syphilis
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@lorne-kates I'm ing on what that refers to. But I'm enjoying my Chrome, which does not experience most of the 'bugs' you've reported.
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@pie_flavor said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
@lorne-kates I'm ing on what that refers to. But I'm enjoying my Chrome, which does not experience most of the 'bugs' you've reported.
Selective memory much?
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@tsaukpaetra explain?
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@pie_flavor said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
@tsaukpaetra explain?
"I drag to scroll down and the context menu opens up instead!"
"You only just noticed that the composer is broken?"
"NodeBB is just one giant bork."
"The point is that it's not important. It's like the WTDWTF favicon glitching out on mobile - does it have a use, somewhere, somewhen? Yes. Is it a core part of the workflow for someone? Possibly. Is it really all that important for almost everyone? No. Discord is awesome, and has next to no bugs, and doesn't even need to be those things because everything else is shit. The fact that I would have to use a rarely used function by right clicking the window corner or pressing Alt+Space,M instead of right clicking the taskbar preview is really not all that game changing for me."
For a few examples.
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@tsaukpaetra No, I mean that most of the wave of bugs he just now reported don't happen on Chrome, and are almost definitely Firefox-specific if not Firefox-caused.
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@pie_flavor said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
@tsaukpaetra No, I mean that most of the wave of bugs he just now reported don't happen on Chrome, and are almost definitely Firefox-specific if not Firefox-caused.
Yeah, well that's kind of one of his things, using old Firefox.
Usually he's not this bored though. I bet someone don't pay him the money this month...
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@pie_flavor said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
@lorne-kates I'm ing on what that refers to. But I'm enjoying my Chrome, which does not experience most of the 'bugs' you've reported.
He's refering to Firefox's silly redesign starting from 2013:
I'm not too pleased about that either as Firefox used to have a big menu button in the top-left corner which respected the "corner of the screen" principle (just toss your cursor into that corner and you can click the button), ever since the Australis redesign they switched to a tiny hamburger button beneath the top-right close corner button.
Of course, then there's more silly stuff like the gradual blurring of the Firefox "fox around the globe" images and flat contrast-less design, but that just happened everywhere.
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@jbert said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
they switched to a tiny hamburger button beneath the top-right close corner button.
this has always seemed lazy to me. can't be bothered to design something? shove everything into a pancake menu!
on top of that, you can't even move the button around! I don't understand what the reasoning behind that was, besides making FF look more like Chrome...
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@jbert Even if modern Firefox was bad, which it's simply not, expecting web developers to keep compatibility with it would be wrong.
HTML5 changes. Therefore, an old browser and a new browser are different standards, and complex pages aren't going to work the same without some extra effort.
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@anonymous234 It's not that I disagree that Firefox 28 is old and outdated spec-wise, it's just that @pie_flavor's suggestion of "just use Chrome" is obnoxious (though then again, he was talking to Lorne).
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@lorne-kates said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
Try Firefox 28.
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@anonymous234 said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
Even if modern Firefox was bad, which it's simply not, expecting web developers to keep compatibility with it would be wrong.
This "keeping compatibility with old browsers" y'all think I'm advocating, it's coming from your shoulder aliens right?
I mean, the entire reason I upgraded from 22->28 is because 22 didn't support TLS1.2 and sites are dropping less than 1.2 support, which is fair enough.
What I keep pointing out is "doing dumb shit in stupid ways that just happens to work because this month browsers or whatever are forgiving enough to work around your dumbshit but that's going to blow up in your face one day so I'm pointing it out now".
My bug reports (when using FF22/28, and not FF Mobile Latest or Chrome Latest) are:
- 50% "this effects Firefox, is version agnostic", which is confirmed when everyone else using Firefox Latest goes "oh yeah"
- 49% "this shit is broken in every browser how the fuck did you assholes deploy this without testing?!?"
- 1% (+/- 1%) "this is broken in FF22 only"
As always, I challenge anyone to find one of my bug reports / complaints that:
- Only effected MY version of Firefox
- That I then insisted be fixed
It's funny, because everytime this comes up, every seems to have these great memories of me doing that-- until I ask for links to when I did, then oops, we forgot!
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@lorne-kates said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
It's funny, because everytime this comes up, every seems to have these great memories of me doing that-- until I ask for links to when I did, then oops,
we forgot!FTFY
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@lorne-kates Try it and see. I hear VMs are easy.
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@lorne-kates said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
As always, I challenge anyone to find one of my bug reports / complaints that:
- Only effected MY version of Firefox
- That I then insisted be fixed
Red boob
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@lorne-kates said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
It occurs AFTER the post to
https://what.thedailywtf.com/api/post/upload
has completed and returned.[{"url":"/assets/uploads/files/1518202687152-spark-plugs-20180209_134623-23-resized.jpg","path":"/usr/src/app/public/uploads/files/1518202687152-spark-plugs-20180209_134623-23.jpg","name":"spark plugs 20180209_134623 23.jpg"}]
Slightly offtopic, but why is the filesystem path in the JSON returned by Node ?
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@pie_flavor said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
@lorne-kates Try it and see. I hear VMs are easy.
"Wow, programming a simple, non-stupid, non-bloated website iz HARD. Have you, the end user, tried instead setting up an ENTIRE SECOND MACHINE virtualized on your existing consumer hardware-- solely for the purpose of our website."
Spoken like a true Discodev.
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@ben_lubar said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
Red boob
- I recall there being other people who saw the stretched boob. I'll try to hunt down the thread
- I pointed out HOW it could be fixed by just using border-radius (a standard, easy to use css attribute) rather than-- whatever the fuck they were doing. Which it wasn't. So I that was that. Until it finally was fixed, I guess, because I've seen for a long time now a nice round, perky boob.
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@alexmedia said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
Slightly offtopic, but why is the filesystem path in the JSON returned by Node ?
It makes it easier to leak personal information.
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@lorne-kates said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
perky boob.
Just reviewed the original thread:
- I asked "WTF" is the red boob even for?
- People either didn't know, or pointed out it does shit with the composer
- To which everyone went WTF
- And suggested industry standard icons for max/minimize, which @julianlam was open to, but those never got implementet
- Then we found a bunch of bugs, including the red boob no saving your edit position; getting the composer stuck in max mode; and duplicating itself
- End of thread.
I'll look for more, but that one was nothing to do with FF22. E_INVALID.
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Ah yes, here we go:
https://what.thedailywtf.com/post/882567
In which I point out that using a new whizz-bang "box-sizing: border-box", which is just lazy-people HTML for "i don't know what margin and border are!"
And I posted a one-line css style that would work on everyone's browser. The standard way of doing it.
But I didn't insist it get fixed. In fact I specifically didn't fix it, even myself, because seeing the boob was a funny reminder of stupid HTML styling.
Someone else put in the fix on their own. I even "complained" about the fix being applied.
So--- next?
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@lorne-kates are you saying I should remove all the Firefox-specific fixes you asked me to add to the CSS?
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@lorne-kates said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
@pie_flavor said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
@lorne-kates Try it and see. I hear VMs are easy.
"Wow, programming a simple, non-stupid, non-bloated website iz HARD. Have you, the end user, tried instead setting up an ENTIRE SECOND MACHINE virtualized on your existing consumer hardware-- solely for the purpose of our website."
Spoken like a true Discodev.
No, solely for the purpose of bug-testing. Because AIUI, you don't actually want to not be able to revert to FF28. My actual recommendation would be to just update your fucking browser, because you are the only one here who has these problems despite there being plenty of Firefox users, and various elements of brokenness are the price you choose to pay for keeping everything purposefully outdated. Maybe don't do that. The VM thing would be to work around your snowflakeness so you can actually see I'm right without committing to anything.
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@lorne-kates said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
@lorne-kates said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
perky boob.
Just reviewed the original thread:
- I asked "WTF" is the red boob even for?
- People either didn't know, or pointed out it does shit with the composer
- To which everyone went WTF
- And suggested industry standard icons for max/minimize, which @julianlam was open to, but those never got implementet
- Then we found a bunch of bugs, including the red boob no saving your edit position; getting the composer stuck in max mode; and duplicating itself
- End of thread.
I'll look for more, but that one was nothing to do with FF22. E_INVALID.
That sounds pretty bad. Discourse's minimization functionality, on the other hand, is both great and intuitive.
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@pie_flavor said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
because you are the only one here who has these problems despite there being plenty of Firefox users
I've just gotten accustomed to the brokenness and jankiness. at this point, I assume that firefox is not performant enough for NodeBB (to be fair some threads on here have more than a dozen posts in them, so we're pretty much dealing with big data).
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@alexmedia said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
Slightly offtopic, but why is the filesystem path in the JSON returned by Node ?
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Hats off to you for how quick you've picked this up.
I know a certain other discussion forum software developer who would've laughed this off with a meme. Or a permaban.
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@ben_lubar said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
@lorne-kates are you saying I should remove all the Firefox-specific fixes you asked me to add to the CSS?
Which ones did I ask for?
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@lorne-kates Just use the search to find every thread you've ever started in the Bugs category. That's probably all of them.
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@pie_flavor said in Speaking of the forum freezing the browser, uploading an image does it too!:
@lorne-kates Just use the search to find every thread you've ever started in the Bugs category. That's probably all of them.
Your logical fallacy is whatever the fuck the one is where a single example proves you wrong, but hey, here's five:
https://i.imgur.com/CwVmhBK.png
But hey, I don't blame you for being wrong about everything, every time, all the time, forever. It's just how Discodevs-- are. You can't help being an idiot.