Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...
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/me starts giggling madly and rocking back and forth
I cannot express how happy I am that the frigging elevator in our apartment building is working again for the first time since Halloween. I've got a feeling that someone is going to sue someone over this crap, because everyone - including the property managers and owners - was thoroughly fed up after more than three bloody months of this shit.
It was bad enough that the plan was for them to spend a month to a month and a half to get the whole job done. When it became clear that it wouldn't be running until after the New Year, people started getting pissed. But no one, NO ONE expected it to be more than another month after that!
They are still having trouble with the new security system - which apparently is where the hold up was, the contractors hired for the job decided to disappear for a month - so every fifteen minutes or so right now the fire alarms go off and the elevator stops working again until it's reset. But at this point, just being able to use it at all virtually has people dancing in the halls.
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I am uh... So happy for you..
(am I ing badly on the elleator?)
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@swayde said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
(am I ing badly on the elleator?)
It's baby talk. :P
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@swayde said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
I am uh... So happy for you..
(am I ing badly on the elleator?)
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Had seen similar problem before, where the security guard of the building simply flipped "the fireman's lift override" switch and let one of the lifts kept operating.
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Just think of all the exercise you got :)
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:BigBangTheory.xslx:
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@scholrlea How many floors in your building? Which one do you live on?
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Like any sane person in 2018, I have a gym membership. This is where I go to ride a stationary bike, stair simulator or run on a treadmill. To get to the gym, I drive my car then take the elevator, of course. You want me to walk or climb stairs like a caveman
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@boomzilla said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
@scholrlea How many floors in your building? Which one do you live on?
"Floors"?
:MolePeople.sln:
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@timebandit said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
Like any sane person in 2018, I have a gym membership. This is where I go to ride a stationary bike, stair simulator or run on a treadmill. To get to the gym, I drive my car then take the elevator, of course. You want me to walk or climb stairs like a caveman
I had a gym membership for a decade. Did absolutely nothing for my health :( [it was only at the end, that I found out one also needed to go there ;) ]
For me the most annoying was being on the 18th floor (of a 23 story building) where there was no elevator for a while (weeks).
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@timebandit
The completely pointless ideas thread: put a stair climber machine inside the elevator, wire it so that you have to climb an equivalent amount of steps in it to make the elevator work.
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@anonymous234 said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
@timebandit
The completely pointless ideas thread: put a stair climber machine inside the elevator, wire it so that you have to climb an equivalent amount of steps in it to make the elevator work.
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Edit: Nice autobox!
Vycle is a human-powered vertical transport system for our expanding cities
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@djls45 Great job, Iframely.
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Its benefits are twofold: firstly, it will give stakeholders a more efficient and sustainable option to ascend,
Secondly, it will provide a limitless supply of marketing buzzwords.
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@anonymous234 said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
@timebandit
The completely pointless ideas thread: put a stair climber machine inside the elevator, wire it so that you have to climb an equivalent amount of steps in it to make the elevator work.edit: Pretty sure I first saw this here... Bad ideas thread maybe?...
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@boomzilla said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
@scholrlea How many floors in your building? Which one do you live on?
It's only four stories tall (which oddly enough makes it one of the taller buildings in Athens), and I am on the 4th, so I needed to walk just three flights of stairs. It's a very first-world-problems sort of complaint, I know, but given that I can't walk more than 50 ft (15m) without taking a breather, three flights of stairs might as well be three million. When the plan was announced, I was genuinely concerned that I wouldn't be able to walk up those three flights at all.
<insert "So Many Stairs" clip from Yu-Gi-Oh Abridged Here>
Also, while I am not quite fifty, and about 2/3s of the residents are UGA students in the teens and early twenties, as with low-rent housing in general there are a significant number of elderly residents, as well as a number of families with young children. At least one resident had a heart attack while climbing the stairs last month, and while I don't know her condition before it or how she is now, the surprise there is that it was just the one.
While they may not take Section 8A vouchers - I checked - this roach motel is definitely low-rent. It is far from the worst apartment I've seen, even in Athens itself (major colleges often have a lot of crappy housing nearby for students; the dump I lived in in Berzerkeley was much worse) and they are doing their best to improve it, but the lack of maintenance by the previous owners and property managers is very evident throughout the apartment complex, especially in this one building.
Most of the other units in the complex are one or two story duplex/triplex units, but this one building predates them and the rest of complex as a whole, having been built around 1962 I think. The elevator equipment being replaced with was most from the original installation, and was originally scheduled to be replaced in 2000. The main reason they finally got to it now was because they could no longer get the replacement parts for the old control electronics, which had been breaking down regularly.
And as I said, the property managers are seriously pissed at the contractors, too. The ones doing the security work seemingly disappeared - no contact at all - for over a month, and the contract apparently was such that the owners couldn't easily break it. That's the main reason why I think legal action may be forthcoming.
@thecpuwizard said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
Just think of all the exercise you got :)
I know, and I kept trying to tell myself that. The problem is, even now I can barely ascend one stair without getting exhausted.
Not one flight of stairs, one step. And I really need a handrail to do it - I tend to panic if there isn't one.
I am 420lb. (190Kg) of mostly sessile flab, on a 49-year-old body. Any amount of exercise that would help with that would probably kill me first, even if I were inclined to try it.
I am not. I prefer situations where I can pretend my body doesn't exist. I hate having a body at all.
Which is part of the problem I have in other areas; transhuman trumps transgender in my mind. I genuinely hate being human, so I tend to ignore and dismiss anything that is in the least bit physical about myself.
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@dcon said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
edit: Pretty sure I first saw this here... Bad ideas thread maybe?...
For some reason, I recall seeing that when we were running Community Server.
And it was stupid even back then. "I want to take this box upstairs". Fuck you. "I want to bring this COUCH upstairs" Double fuck you.
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@lorne-kates said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
For some reason, I recall seeing that when we were running Community Server.
It's from 2016, so not that specific article. Maybe an earlier version.
@lorne-kates said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
I want to take this box upstairs
It looks like it could probably be designed to accommodate that.
@lorne-kates said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
I want to bring this COUCH upstairs
No so much.
Also, it can't accommodate wheelchair users, so you still have to have normal elevators. And if you have normal elevators, you have to have stairs for emergencies.
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@dcon said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
@anonymous234 said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
@timebandit
The completely pointless ideas thread: put a stair climber machine inside the elevator, wire it so that you have to climb an equivalent amount of steps in it to make the elevator work.edit: Pretty sure I first saw this here... Bad ideas thread maybe?...
Less practical and even more dangerous than a paternoster lift...impressive!
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@scholrlea said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
It's only four stories tall (which oddly enough makes it one of the taller buildings in Athens), and I am on the 4th, so I needed to walk just three flights of stairs. It's a very first-world-problems sort of complaint, I know,
I was just curious. I look at apartments around here that are that tall and have no elevators (a friend used to live on the third floor with no elevator) and I would definitely not want to live there.
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@lorne-kates said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
@dcon said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
edit: Pretty sure I first saw this here... Bad ideas thread maybe?...
For some reason, I recall seeing that when we were running Community Server.
And it was stupid even back then. "I want to take this box upstairs". Fuck you. "I want to bring this COUCH upstairs" Double fuck you.
I found this:
@dragoon said in In other news today...:
Different article, same time frame.
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@scholrlea said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
I know, and I kept trying to tell myself that. The problem is, even now I can barely ascend one stair without getting exhausted.
Not one flight of stairs, one step. And I really need a handrail to do it - I tend to panic if there isn't one.
I feel your pain. My home is a three floor split-level townhome and my bedroom and office are the two rooms on the top half-floor. It's all stairs, all the time, whether my body feels like climbing them or not.
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@dcon Well, it looks surprisingly usable. But I feel that if anyone actually wanted a "manually powered elevator", they'd prefer a regular elevator cabin with some pedals inside that turned some gears to pull you up. That way you can't fall to death if you slip.
New idea: a pair of elevators on a simple counterweight system. To go up, you wait for someone on the top floor that weighs as much as you to get in their elevator, thus pulling you up as they go down. Careful planning is required.
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The building where I live is a ground floor (well, OK, a rez de chaussée, but that's the same thing said in fancy-dancy Froglandish) and six other floors. Being in Frogland, the floor called "first" (premier, yeah, I know) is NOT the rez de chaussée, but one floor above it.
On that measure, I live on the fifth floor. There is an ascenseur, although it looks suspiciously like a lift, but I try to use the (spiral) stairs round the back unless I'm carrying something awkward or heavy.
But the lift has oddities, which are part of why I'm not that keen on using it. Every single time it stops at any floor, it pauses a moment, and before opening the door, it jerks down about half a centimetre. It gives me the creepie-crawlies, a bit, but it's been doing it for the last nine years and hasn't shown any inclination either to stop doing it or to plunge down into the basement, so ...
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@steve_the_cynic zero-based floor counting (or rather not counting the ground floor/lobby as a floor) is pretty common here too. I say 'not counting' because typically the ground floor is indicated as 'B' for 'begane grond', not 0, on listings.
My appartment complex does not have any elevators, and I live 2 half-floors up.
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@steve_the_cynic said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
he floor called "first"
I'm boggled by all these nerds that are perplexed by a real-life zero based index.
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@luhmann said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
@steve_the_cynic said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
he floor called "first"
I'm boggled by all these nerds that are perplexed by a real-life zero based index.
They're COBOL programmers?
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@steve_the_cynic said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
Every single time it stops at any floor, it pauses a moment, and before opening the door, it jerks down about half a centimetre
I think that's the brakes applying and then the motivator stopping? It's pretty common in most of the elevators I've been in. You can kinda tell if you're closer to the motor area because it's humming up until the point where it dips.
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@pleegwat said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
@steve_the_cynic zero-based floor counting (or rather not counting the ground floor/lobby as a floor) is pretty common here too. I say 'not counting' because typically the ground floor is indicated as 'B' for 'begane grond', not 0, on listings.
So not only do they move all the above-ground floors up one, they also moved the Basement up a level?!?
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@masonwheeler Below the first floor you can get all kinds of things. In addition to Begane grond I think I've encountered Mezzanine, Sousterrain, and Kelder.
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@dcon said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
@anonymous234 said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
@timebandit
The completely pointless ideas thread: put a stair climber machine inside the elevator, wire it so that you have to climb an equivalent amount of steps in it to make the elevator work.edit: Pretty sure I first saw this here... Bad ideas thread maybe?...
WILL THIS DEVICE THAT ALLOWS ONE PERSON TO SLOWLY ASCEND A BUILDING REPLACE A DEVICE WITH NO MOVING PARTS THAT ALLOWS EFFECTIVELY UNLIMITED PEOPLE TO ASCEND A BUILDING AT DIFFERENT SPEEDS?
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@anonymous234 said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
New idea: a pair of elevators on a simple counterweight system. To go up, you wait for someone on the top floor that weighs as much as you to get in their elevator, thus pulling you up as they go down. Careful planning is required.
They put one of those in Los Angeles in 1901. Called it Angels Flight.
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@da-doctah once everyone got down, it stopped working?
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@luhmann said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
@steve_the_cynic said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
he floor called "first"
I'm boggled by all these nerds that are perplexed by a real-life zero based index.
I'm not perplexed by it, but I am aware of the difference between European normality and American weirdness on this. It sort of makes more sense in French than in British English, since the rez de chaussée isn't an étage, so the premier étage being the one above the ground level is correct. When you call it the "ground floor", and then there's a "first floor" above that, it gets weird.
So maybe it's Franco-American normality (even if the terminology isn't directly compatible) and British weirdness.
Or maybe I should crawl into a hole somewhere and hide.
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@steve_the_cynic said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
the floor called "first"
Czech is even funnier (as usual). We have two different words. ‘podlaží’ is ‘floor’ and works the same, so the ground floor is the first one, and ‘poschodí’, which is something like ‘upstairs’ and starts counting one above ground. And different buildings have labels using different convention.
(I wanted to say the elevator convention is to have ground floor correspond to zero (with P label) until I realized that the building I am currently in counts ground floor as 1)
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@tsaukpaetra said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
@steve_the_cynic said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
Every single time it stops at any floor, it pauses a moment, and before opening the door, it jerks down about half a centimetre
I think that's the brakes applying and then the motivator stopping? It's pretty common in most of the elevators I've been in. You can kinda tell if you're closer to the motor area because it's humming up until the point where it dips.
It stops fully, waits a moment, and then jerks down, after which the doors open. And it doesn't matter whether it was previously going up or down. The pattern is the same in both cases.
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@steve_the_cynic said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
I'm not perplexed by it
My neither but not being perplexed doesn't make a good joke
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@anonymous234 said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
The completely pointless ideas thread: put a stair climber machine inside the elevator, wire it so that you have to climb an equivalent amount of steps in it to make the elevator work.
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@scholrlea said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
I am not. I prefer situations where I can pretend my body doesn't exist. I hate having a body at all.
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@steve_the_cynic said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
@tsaukpaetra said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
@steve_the_cynic said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
Every single time it stops at any floor, it pauses a moment, and before opening the door, it jerks down about half a centimetre
I think that's the brakes applying and then the motivator stopping? It's pretty common in most of the elevators I've been in. You can kinda tell if you're closer to the motor area because it's humming up until the point where it dips.
It stops fully, waits a moment, and then jerks down, after which the doors open. And it doesn't matter whether it was previously going up or down. The pattern is the same in both cases.
How does this modify or otherwise clarify what I said before?
To make an analogy, it's basically the same as driving a car up (or down!) a hill, stopping fully, applying the parking break, then being mystified that the car jerks a bit when letting go of the brake pedal.
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@tsaukpaetra I've been in an elevator that stopped somewhere between 20 and 30cm from where it should be and opened it's door. (That isn't a normal thing here). Good thing it was in an in an hospital parking space.
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@scholrlea said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
I am 420lb. (190Kg) of mostly sessile flab, on a 49-year-old body. Any amount of exercise that would help with that would probably kill me first, even if I were inclined to try it.
I am not. I prefer situations where I can pretend my body doesn't exist. I hate having a body at all.Well, I don't want to get all preachy but you're going to be stuck inside that body for several more decades. Accepting a problem is the first step to handling with it.
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@gąska said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
@da-doctah once everyone got down, it stopped working?
/me telling all my neighbours to do me a favor and "go down".
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@sockpuppet7 said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
I've been in an elevator that stopped somewhere between 20 and 30cm from where it should be and opened it's door. (That isn't a normal thing here). Good thing it was in an in an hospital parking space.
If the elevator fell 30cm out of the shaft and landed in a parking spot, that is NOT NORMAL.
But it's a good thing you were already at a hospital.
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@steve_the_cynic said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
But the lift has oddities, which are part of why I'm not that keen on using it.
Is the lift also of the tiny-even-for-a-midget kind, which has been wedged in the much too small void in the middle of the staircase and where you can only fit in sideways?
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@remi said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
@steve_the_cynic said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
But the lift has oddities, which are part of why I'm not that keen on using it.
Is the lift also of the tiny-even-for-a-midget kind, which has been wedged in the much too small void in the middle of the staircase and where you can only fit in sideways?
It's in no way large, but it's larger than the type you're talking about (and which I have seen elsewhere). It's rated for about the same number of people who will fit in it without having to be on intimate terms with each other. The stairs in the building are an actual spiral (yes, I know, the path is a helix...) staircase behind the elevator shaft.
(I have also seen and even used a "spiral" escalator. That is, one that's curved left/right. Having seen it, I immediately found a reason to use it, best described as "I want to".)
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@steve_the_cynic said in Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down. Ellellator go up. Ellellator go down...:
It's in no way large, but it's larger than the type you're talking about (and which I have seen elsewhere). It's rated for about the same number of people who will fit in it without having to be on intimate terms with each other.
Oh, that's good. I think that the smallest I've seen was an elevator officially rated for 2 persons (yeah, I did not even know that was possible!), and where you had to be at least very friendly with the other person to fit it. I think "vertical casket" was perhaps a better suited term than "lift".