I hate place-holder code



  • Verbatim:

    finally
    {
    

    }

    "You never know, we might need to put something here one day..."



  • I mean, it's pointless...but on the WTF-meter I'd say this rates about a 0.25



  • @toth said:

    I mean, it's pointless...but on the WTF-meter I'd say this rates about a 0.25

     +1


    rstinejr I think you are just pissed that you don't get along with your coworkers so you take it out on their code. Either that or your application has some major architechture problems, but you are not smart enough to pick them out and express them so instead you harp on minor style gripes.

    You constantly post minor issues that have no bearing on your productivity; your posting rights need to be revoked.

    Has it ever occured to you that the person writing this code simply did a tap + tap (VS short cut to use a code snippet) and it created the finally automatically? Of course you didn't, it seems like you never have jack shit to do. They prbly don't give you much work because you suck.



  • Fuck you.



  • in case I think of something funny
    {

    }



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  • @dhromed said:

     

     

    // Placeholder Code:
    // finally
    // {
    //    // Insert placeholder code here
    // }

     



  • @Lorne Kates said:

    // Placeholder Code:
    // finally
    // {
    //    // Insert placeholder code here
    // }

     

    /*//Placeholder Code:
    finally
    {
        /* Insert placeholder code here */
    }
    */


  • @this_code_sucks said:

    You constantly post minor issues that have no bearing on your productivity; your posting rights need to be revoked.
    Here's a idea: how about we don't try to rip people a new one just because we feel their threads are not up to par. I'd rather have topics that are not 5-star candidates than people not posting because someone is looking to tell them off. It's not like there's a quota and someone's using up the threads.



  • @DOA said:

    I'd rather have topics that are not 5-star candidates than people not posting because someone is looking to tell them off.

    Amen.

    Or waiting for someone else (usually me) to post a topic even slightly remotely related to the topic they were too cowardly to post, then hijacking my post with it. If that sentence makes sense, it made sense in my head. Anyway watch this.

    @DOA said:

    It's not like there's a quota and someone's using up the threads.

    With CS, that might not actually be true.



  • @DOA said:

    how about we don't try to rip people a new one just because we feel their threads are not up to pa

    But but what will we do then?
    @DOA said:
    I'd rather have topics that are not 5-star candidates than people not posting because someone is looking to tell them off

    Did I tell you about my morning, funny thing...
    @DOA said:
    there's a quota and someone's using up the threads.

    Storage space and reading time are not endless



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Or waiting for someone else (usually me) to post a topic even slightly remotely related to the topic they were too cowardly to post, then hijacking my post with it.
     

    You keep using that word...

    What exactly does courage or the lack thereof have to do with posting related examples?  You seem to have a very strange mental model of how related examples work, in which people just sit on them, for some reason unwilling to post them out of cowardice, but then as soon as some hapless victim posts anything related, they maliciously spring from ambush with their example that they were too afraid to post only minutes before.  (If that makes no sense, well, it probably makes sense in Blakeyrat's head.)

    Those of us living in reality, however, tend to follow a slightly different model (and by slightly, of course, I mean "entirely," ) which is based instead on empathy.  It goes like this:

    1. Person 1 posts an example of something sucky.
    2. This reminds Person 2 of something similar that happened to them.
    3. Misery loves company, so Person 2 chimes in with "hey, you're not alone. I had something like that happen to me once, and here's how it went."
    4. Commiseration and mutual venting helps the healing process along.


     



  • @Mason Wheeler said:

    You keep using that word...

    Why would you link to that? What's wrong with you?

    @Mason Wheeler said:

    What exactly does courage or the lack thereof have to do with posting related examples?

    First of all, the examples weren't related, if they were I wouldn't have gotten as annoyed. This exact scenario I'm griping about has happened THREE times, BTW.

    @Mason Wheeler said:

    ou seem to have a very strange mental model of how related examples work, in which people just sit on them, for some reason unwilling to post them out of cowardice, but then as soon as some hapless victim posts anything related, they maliciously spring from ambush with their example that they were too afraid to post only minutes before.

    In one of the cases, the person posting said HE DID EXACTLY THAT. And ADMITTED TO IT. He had the post pre-written and was just waiting for someone ELSE to start a vaguely-related topic. If that's not cowardice, then what is?



  • @Mason Wheeler said:

    You keep using that word...
    Don't you think you should at least quote which word you mean, for this to remotely make sense?



  •  @blakeyrat said:

    Or waiting for someone else (usually me) to post a topic even slightly
    remotely related to the topic they were too cowardly to post, then
    hijacking my post with it. If that sentence makes sense, it made sense
    in my head.

    ITT  : blakeyrat hijacking a vaguely related rant-about-coworker topic so he can rant again about his weird obsession of hijacked topics.

    pure trolling genius.



  • @MustBeUsersFault said:

     @blakeyrat said:

    Or waiting for someone else (usually me) to post a topic even slightly
    remotely related to the topic they were too cowardly to post, then
    hijacking my post with it. If that sentence makes sense, it made sense
    in my head.

    ITT  : blakeyrat hijacking a vaguely related rant-about-coworker topic so he can rant again about his weird obsession of hijacked topics.

    pure trolling genius.

    ITT: Hijackers hijack a hijacked thread by talking about hijacking.



  • @topspin said:

    @Mason Wheeler said:

    You keep using that word...
    Don't you think you should at least quote which word you mean, for this to remotely make sense?

     

    "the"

     



  • @topspin said:

    @Mason Wheeler said:

    You keep using that word...
    Don't you think you should at least quote which word you mean, for this to remotely make sense?

    "Coward."  (I thought it was clear from the context.)

     



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @MustBeUsersFault said:
    @blakeyrat said:
    Or waiting for someone else (usually me) to post a topic even slightly
    remotely related to the topic they were too cowardly to post, then
    hijacking my post with it. If that sentence makes sense, it made sense
    in my head.

    ITT  : blakeyrat hijacking a vaguely related rant-about-coworker topic so he can rant again about his weird obsession of hijacked topics.

    pure trolling genius.

    ITT: Hijackers hijack a hijacked thread by talking about hijacking.

    I'm taking this thread to CUBA!



  • @boomzilla said:

    I'm taking this thread to CUBA!

    Bring money
    @boomzilla said:
    Filed under: get ready to meet serguey123

    Bring peanuts



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    Hijackers hijack a hijacked thread by talking about hijacking
    If you asked me to use the word hijack four times in four different ways in a single sentence I couldn't.

    +10

     



  • @serguey123 said:

    @boomzilla said:
    I'm taking this thread to CUBA!

    Bring money
    @boomzilla said:
    Filed under: get ready to meet serguey123

    Bring peanuts

    Don't bring: your traitorous, milquetoast older brother who wants respect.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @serguey123 said:
    @boomzilla said:
    I'm taking this thread to CUBA!

    Bring money
    @boomzilla said:
    Filed under: get ready to meet serguey123

    Bring peanuts

    Don't bring: your traitorous, milquetoast older brother who wants respect.


    Yep, we have plenty of those here, younger brothers too but we also have mojitos so everything is fine



  • Obviously he should have put a // TODO: fill in finally block atop that code sample



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Obviously he should have put a // TODO: fill in finally block atop that code sample


    Or he should have disposed his unmanaged resources; or his server might lock up once a week like mine. But hey, at least we don't have any finally code sitting there wasting electrons.



  • @serguey123 said:

    Filed under: I literally have no idea what you mean anymore but I'll pretend I do and wing it

    They're called "movies".


    The equivalent in your culture would be kids playing soccer with a severed animal head.



  • I was just trying to get a thing done the other day using a thing, but the thing did the wrong thing and when I tried to debug the thing to work around the wrong thing, it created multiple pending things that all got in each other's way and I've had to waste hours talking to tech support just to persuade them to delete all the things and let me start over.

    Things suck.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    @DOA said:
    It's not like there's a quota and someone's using up the threads.

    With CS, that might not actually be true.

    I was going to be all clever and suggest looking that up in the CS help but OMG WTF THAT ACTUALLY DISPLAYS SOMETHING USEFUL NOW?!



  • @flabdablet said:

    I was just trying to get a thing done the other day using a thing, but the thing did the wrong thing and when I tried to debug the thing to work around the wrong thing, it created multiple pending things that all got in each other's way and I've had to waste hours talking to tech support just to persuade them to delete all the things and let me start over.

    Things suck.

    I have no idea what you're saying or why you're replying to me.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    ITT: Hijackers hijack a hijacked thread by talking about hijacking.
    Hi, Jack!



  • @TheRider said:

    @morbiuswilters said:
    ITT: Hijackers hijack a hijacked thread by talking about hijacking.

    Hi, Jack!

    You take the hijack and I'll take the lojack.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @serguey123 said:
    Filed under: I literally have no idea what you mean anymore but I'll pretend I do and wing it

    They're called "movies".


    I don't watch tv, nor go to the movies but even if I did, I don't think your post is something people are expected to recognize as google had no idea of what you were talking about.
    @morbiuswilters said:

    The equivalent in your culture would be kids playing soccer with a severed animal head.

    Soccer is no big here, but is getting there, anyhow we would never let a kid have a severed animal head, too valuable.



  • @serguey123 said:

    we would never let a kid have a severed animal head, too valuable.

    If the kids in their teens, they're probably more interested in the remainder of the animal.



  • @Cassidy said:

    they're probably more interested in the remainder of the animal.

    Well, yeah, it has more meat
    @Cassidy said:
    If the kids in their teens

    ...pervert



  • @serguey123 said:

    I don't watch tv, nor go to the movies but even if I did, I don't think your post is something people are expected to recognize as google had no idea of what you were talking about.

    It's from The Godfather Part II, only one of the greatest movies ever made. Michael Corleone becomes head of a Mafia family, however he discovers that his wimpy, older brother is jealous and has betrayed him to a rival criminal organization. He discovers this while on Mafia business in Batista's Cuba, just before Communist rebels overrun the embassy. The scene I linked was Michael giving Fredo the "kiss of death".



  • @this_code_sucks said:

    @blakeyrat said:

    Obviously he should have put a // TODO: fill in finally block atop that code sample


    Or he should have disposed his unmanaged resources; or his server might lock up once a week like mine. But hey, at least we don't have any finally code sitting there wasting electrons.

    Oh, so that's why you're so mad. And this whole time I thought you were reaming out a complete stranger on the Internet for absolutely NO reason... Silly me.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    It's from The Godfather Part II

    I guessed that from the link although I did not watch it.
    @morbiuswilters said:
    one of the greatest movies ever made

    I read the book and I did not love it so I doubt I would have liked the movie, besides I'm not a fan of mob related stuff, I don't understand the allure some people feel or the fact that they get glorified.



  • @serguey123 said:

    I read the book..

    Get the fuck out of my kitchen.

    @serguey123 said:

    ...I doubt I would have liked the movie...

    I'm a man, so I never read the book, but I can tell you the movie is fantastic.

    @serguey123 said:

    ...I'm not a fan of mob related stuff, I don't understand the allure some people feel or the fact that they get glorified.

    I don't like mob stuff, either. The Godfather I and II aren't about glorification, they're about the brutal toll of being in the Mafia (which itself is really a stand-in for greed, ambition, lust for power and family.) (The Godfather III is an utter pile of shit.) Michael starts as idealistic and basically good, but is transformed into a monster by the end. There's also a cultural/social aspect, following the immigration of Italians to America and their impact upon American society and America's impact on them.

    Once Upon A Time In America is actually a similar film (kind of a rip-off of The Godfather, honestly) although it deals with Jewish gangsters in Brooklyn. It's a decent movie but far too prolix.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    the movie is fantastic

    It doesn't matter, once you read the book, you'll judge the movie according to the idea you had in your mind instead of enjoying it, that is one of the reasons why so few book adaptation are great. You also miss some subplots and stuff.
    @morbiuswilters said:
    The Godfather I and II aren't about glorification

    Hmmm, at least in the book they pass Corleone as a man of certain moral standard and not a common thug and smuggler who kind of was forced into it and to a point glorify the era and the criminals pointing them as better than their succesors which would go ahead and dabble in drugs and other dirtier bussiness but my remark was more about the genre itself than this specific example. In general Mario Puzzo's portrait of american society was great but is just not my thing.

    @morbiuswilters said:

    Once Upon A Time In America is actually a similar film

    I tried watching a tv series recommend by a friend "Boardwalk Empire" but I couldn't watch it pass the second episode, too boring for my taste, I'm more of a sci-fi fan



  • @serguey123 said:

    It doesn't matter, once you read the book, you'll judge the movie according to the idea you had in your mind instead of enjoying it, that is one of the reasons why so few book adaptation are great. You also miss some subplots and stuff.

    I basically agree. I usually think book adaptations shouldn't exist because books are a far different medium than film and they rarely translate well. However, The Godfather is a great film and I don't mind not reading the book first (and I doubt I'd think the book is better than the movie.)

    @serguey123 said:

    Hmmm, at least in the book they pass Corleone as a man of certain moral standard and not a common thug and smuggler who kind of was forced into it and to a point glorify the era and the criminals pointing them as better than their succesors which would go ahead and dabble in drugs and other dirtier bussiness but my remark was more about the genre itself than this specific example.

    He did have a certain moral standard, but that was the point; he wasn't pure evil, he just ended up twisted and alone, with everything that mattered to him ruined. He only got into crime to protect his family and his greed and ambition destroyed his family. I agree that the genre itself tends to be pathetic.

    @serguey123 said:

    In general Mario Puzzo's portrait of american society was great but is just not my thing.

    Fair enough.

    @serguey123 said:

    I tried watching a tv series recommend by a friend "Boardwalk Empire" but I couldn't watch it pass the second episode, too boring for my taste, I'm more of a sci-fi fan

    Never saw Boardwalk Empire, but I tend to not like TV dramas, even ones friends recommend highly. One I love (it's my favorite TV drama ever and it's up there with my favorite dramatic flims) is Breaking Bad. It actually has quite a few similarities with The Godfather: reasonably good man undergoes a traumatic event which takes him from the straight-and-narrow into a life of crime which ends up corrupting his entire being and destroying the very thing he went into crime to protect. (It's quite a bit more complicated than that, though.) It's still on the air, so I don't know if it will stay strong until the end, but so far it's only had one less-than-stellar episode.

    I tend to think TV is better for comedy and film is better for drama. A lot of it is the difference in length: drama works better in a short format so that it can maintain consistent themes and tell a compelling, memorable story. Comedy is less structured, so it's good in a rambling format that can span dozens of hours. Comic movies are mostly awful because they're so desperate to get you to laugh in the brief period they have that they resort to tacky, stupid gimmicks. Dramatic shows tend to drag on far longer than necessary, diluting whatever themes they intended to explore.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    Once Upon A Time In America is actually a similar film (kind of a rip-off of The Godfather, honestly) although it deals with Jewish gangsters in Brooklyn. It's a decent movie but far too prolix.
     

    For some reason, I parsed that as "An American Tail", which would have put a whole new spin on that particular film.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    I doubt I'd think the book is better than the movie

    Perhaps, taste is very subjective, for the most part I really enjoy reading books and tends to favor this activity over others
    @morbiuswilters said:
    Breaking Bad.

    Some friends have told me the show is great, however I dislike waiting for the next episode so I tend to watch them when they are completed so maybe in a couple of years
    @morbiuswilters said:
    I tend to think TV is better for comedy and film is better for drama

    Hmm, there are no recent comedy TV shows I truly like, most of them seem stupid and boring (and for fuck sake stop putting a fucking laugh track). The other stuff I keep an eye for is sci fi, the last thing I liked a lot was BSG but they floundered there at the end, it seems weak endings are a staple of tv series.



  • @serguey123 said:

    @morbiuswilters said:
    I doubt I'd think the book is better than the movie

    Perhaps, taste is very subjective, for the most part I really enjoy reading books and tends to favor this activity over others

    I enjoy reading, too. And I don't usually like movies better than books, but The Godfather Parts I & II are such spectacular films that it's hard for me to imagine the books are better.

    @serguey123 said:

    Some friends have told me the show is great, however I dislike waiting for the next episode so I tend to watch them when they are completed so maybe in a couple of years

    I'd recommend it highly. I hate waiting, too, and somewhat regret not waiting until the entire thing was out. But my best friends wouldn't stop raving about it, so I had to watch it. Still, they're only planning on 16 more episodes (possibly split into two broadcast seasons, although filmed all at once) so at least I'm confident they aren't going to run it into the ground.

    @serguey123 said:

    Hmm, there are no recent comedy TV shows I truly like, most of them seem stupid and boring (and for fuck sake stop putting a fucking laugh track).

    I still keep up with South Park, although it's obvious its glory days are behind it (and Trey Parker realizes it.) The new Futuramas are pretty good, although not quite as good as the original run. Arrested Development (one of the best TV comedies ever) is coming back for a short season and a movie. But, yeah, most TV sucks balls.

    @serguey123 said:

    The other stuff I keep an eye for is sci fi, the last thing I liked a lot was BSG but they floundered there at the end, it seems weak endings are a staple of tv series.

    I like reading sci-fi, but like very few sci-fi shows or movies. The only Star Trek I think is worth much is DS9 (as mentioned in another thread). Never saw BSG. Saw Serenity and it was so laughably stupid that it made me vow to never watch Firefly. TV drama (which sci-fi almost always is) is hard because you have so much time to fill. What's more, there's pressure to keep the gravy train going indefinitely, even if it means sacrificing quality, while at the same time you never know when the axe will drop so it's hard to plan an elegant ending. shrug Part of why I think drama usually doesn't work well on TV.




  • BSG was well-acted, well-written, and all around really enjoyable if you like extremely dark stories, and if you watched it commercial free. Not to mention the hot chicks it featured: A New Crew in Town



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @serguey123 said:
    @morbiuswilters said:
    I doubt I'd think the book is better than the movie

    Perhaps, taste is very subjective, for the most part I really enjoy reading books and tends to favor this activity over others

    I enjoy reading, too. And I don't usually like movies better than books, but The Godfather Parts I & II are such spectacular films that it's hard for me to imagine the books are better.

    I only read history.

    But the point is, the Godfather movies (well, the first two) are constantly brought up by everybody listing great movies. The Godfather novels are never brought up by people listing great novels. Case closed.

    IMO, the same applies to The Princess Bride. The book is good, damned good, but the movie is better. And works like Lord of the Rings I'd never be familiar with if not for the movies, since the books are so poorly-written. (Yeah I went there, fanboys.)

    Then again, I'm not the kind of person who knee-jerks whenever I see the slightest change or adaptation of something.

    @morbiuswilters said:

    Saw Serenity and it was so laughably stupid that it made me vow to never watch Firefly.

    Same here. I've never understood Whedon fans. At all. The amount of attention Firefly got is so much greater than the amount of attention it deserved-- especially galling when another show that did basically everything Whedon did earlier and better (The Adventures of Brisco County, Jr) is completely ignored.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @serguey123 said:

    @morbiuswilters said:
    the movie is fantastic
    It doesn't matter,
    once you read the book, you'll judge the movie according to the idea you had in
    your mind instead of enjoying it, that is one of the reasons why so few book
    adaptation are great. You also miss some subplots and stuff.
    +1. The 'pictures' are usually better in the books than the film. The ones I usually bring up when talking about this are Stephen King's 'It' and the latter films of 'Potter. They miss out too much and usually screw up the storyline.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    I still keep up with South Park, although it's obvious its glory days are behind it (and Trey Parker realizes it.)

    Agreed, the last episodes I watched (the beginning of the 16th season) were so not up to par that I only hold a vague recollection of them,
    @morbiuswilters said:
    The new Futuramas are pretty good, although not quite as good as the original run

    That was my impresion as well.
    @morbiuswilters said:
    Arrested Developmen

    I'll add it to my "To Watch" list.
    @morbiuswilters said:
    The only Star Trek I think is worth much is DS9 (as mentioned in another thread)

    The only Star Trek I watched was a couple of the movies, the one with the whales and the one that Shatner dies and they suck balls



  • @serguey123 said:

    the last thing I liked a lot was BSG but they floundered there at the end, it seems weak endings are a staple of tv series.

    I thought the first season was excellent - combined a homage and parody of the original 70s show. I know what you mean about the ending - a friend advised I stop watching it after a specific point.. but I continued for completeness. Wish I'd have stopped now.

    You may like Stargate:Universe, if you've not seen it. You don't need to have seen the original Stargate series, but if you do then some concepts may be a bit clearer (they don't backstory much).

    Seen "Caprica"? Some felt it was quite weak, but I enjoyed it - more because everyone knew the destination but were along to experience the journey.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    Saw Serenity and it was so laughably stupid that it made me vow to never watch Firefly.

    I enjoyed it as a throwaway film that I was glad I hadn't paid full price to see, but I'd never seen Firefly and the film was intended to wrap up the cancelled series.

    I later got hold of Firefly and it definitely filled in many blanks. It's not a bad series, but Wheldon typically has several interconnected plots weaving around in his head that each episode only hints at some unexplored territory (I won't put him in Alan Moore category, but he's certainly drops subtle clues as he goes along). It's not not intended to be taken seriously.

    What bollocksed the series was that the network showed each episode in the wrong order so a lot of it didn't make sense unless you watched them several times. Plus outside of his control, further edits were made by producers who "trimmed the fat" by removing foundations vital to later storylines.



  • @serguey123 said:

    The only Star Trek I watched was a couple of the movies, the one with the whales and the one that Shatner dies and they suck balls
     

    Catch the latest film, the reboot. I thought it pretty good.


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