Marginal Lusers
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You know who you are.
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minimal user agency, infinitely scrolling feeds, and garbage content
Of course, infinite scrolling and an infinite supply of garbage content are completely orthogonal. You can have perfectly Civilized Discourse about how infinite scrolling is forced upon you.
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@boomzilla said in Marginal Lusers:
You know who you are.
I thought I did, but now I'm not so sure. I had thought that luser was short for Linux user, but now I'm not so sure. I do not think that Marl would use Linux.
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@jinpa said in Marginal Lusers:
@boomzilla said in Marginal Lusers:
You know who you are.
I thought I did, but now I'm not so sure. I had thought that luser was short for Linux user, but now I'm not so sure. I do not think that Marl would use Linux.
It's not about Linux users, it's a word play on luser = user -> loser. As in, poor sods who have to use the thing.
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you know.... i've never liked the term luser.....
it evokes a combative relationship between a user and the tech who support them.... and that's not a healthy work dynamic....
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@accalia my experience is that the people who adopt the term 'luser' is out of a cynical jaded experience of being support: it doesn't matter how well meaning you start out, users inevitably beat you down out of frustration.
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@Arantor honestly, in my experience as a techie.......
regardless of the reason for creating the moniker, working with someone who has adopted it gets pretty fatiguing quickly itself.
I get being frustrated and annoyed at users, but... there are better outlets i feel.
/shrug
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@accalia said in Marginal Lusers:
there are better outlets i feel.
Sure but throwing heavy objects at them tends to get you in more trouble
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@loopback0 i'm sure there's better outlets than even that.
take pictures of them and mod them into a DOOM WAD and go to town..... as an example.
just either get REALLY good at bosskeying or don't do that at work.
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How is it possible that software gets worse, not better, over time, despite […] rapid progress in […] AI?
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What evil force, more powerful than Innovation and Progress, is at work here?
Commoditization followed by enshittification.
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@Zecc said in Marginal Lusers:
What evil force, more powerful than Innovation and Progress, is at work here?
Commoditization followed by enshittification.
That's just Adam Smith's well-known metaphor of the Invisible Arsehole.
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Before someone drives me into "I didn't ask for help" territory.
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@Zecc said in Marginal Lusers:
This is more proof of how the philosophy of the
would have saved you from all that.
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@Arantor said in Marginal Lusers:
my experience is that the people who adopt the term 'luser' is out of a cynical jaded experience of being support: it doesn't matter how well meaning you start out, users inevitably beat you down out of frustration.
I am offended by the term for the sake of losers. That sounds like a joke, but it isn't, exactly. If the worst insult a person can say about someone is that they lose, it suggests a lack of depth in the insulter's mind and life.
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Daily Active Users, or DAUs for short
And I used to think that
DAUis the German abbreviation forDümmster anzunehmender User(=most stupid user you have to take into account).
Well, in the end, TFA seems not to disagree.
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@BernieTheBernie :same-picture.jfif:
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@accalia said in Marginal Lusers:
you know.... i've never liked the term luser.....
Well, Microsoft seems to like it, considering they named their user management tool
lusrmgr
But yeah, the term is a bit bad, as issues can be cause by a myriad of different things, and blaming anything and everything on the user is bad. Things like "You're holding it wrong." is more likely to be due to bad product design rather than user error. Still, some users can unfortunately not be helped, but the term "loser" still just feels like a playground insult regardless.
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@Atazhaia said in Marginal Lusers:
@accalia said in Marginal Lusers:
you know.... i've never liked the term luser.....
Well, Microsoft seems to like it, considering they named their user management tool
lusrmgrBut yeah, the term is a bit bad, as issues can be cause by a myriad of different things, and blaming anything and everything on the user is bad. Things like "You're holding it wrong." is more likely to be due to bad product design rather than user error. Still, some users can unfortunately not be helped, but the term "loser" still just feels like a playground insult regardless.
Implying that system admins & developers ever emotionally grew out of the playground
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@Atazhaia said in Marginal Lusers:
blaming anything and everything on the user is bad.
No one is saying that everything bad that happens is because of the lusers. Just that everything about the lusers is bad.
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@Zecc What did you change between the two screenshots? Did you click something, change an option, or simply scroll?
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@Medinoc In the first one I had mistyped "invisible" as "invisble".
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@Atazhaia said in Marginal Lusers:
Still, some users can unfortunately not be helped, but the term "loser" still just feels like a playground insult regardless.
Some people never get it, never generalising anything or making any leaps of understanding. The world is just a mysterious collection of unrelated things to those folks. You simply can't help them, and they are doomed to have the world just dunk on them over and over by demonstrating that it can do things they've never seen before. To call them "losers" isn't nice, but doesn't change the hard facts that they're unable to win except by the simplest of exact repetition of what they already know (and everyone more mentally capable is able to dunk on them as a consequence).
I suspect that such a lack of ability to do any sort of generalisation ought to be classed as a mental disorder, as the people with it are severely lacking in one of the key components of being a citizen: the ability to work things out for yourself when you choose. It might not be though.
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@dkf said in Marginal Lusers:
the people with it are severely lacking in one of the key components of being a citizen
It's actually one of the key components of being a human being, citizen or not.
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The Tyranny of the Marginal User
Invisible hand - Wikipedia
