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@Arantor absolutely, it’s the same shit as usual.
It’s fine for me, but not for thee.You wouldn’t want to block ’s retarded bullshit, you peasant.
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@topspin but I do, I really do!
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@Parody said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
Status: Twitter is telling me my account is 15 years old.
Curious... Oh, mine's only 9. I thought it was older than that...
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@Arantor said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
I assume Musk doesn't actively get harrassed, threats of violence, death threats on a regular basis
Nah, those are just hiding in the millions (billions) of tweets he gets daily.
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@dcon either way it’s not enough for him to notice or do anything about - unlike the normal folks who can legitimately be at risk.
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@Arantor said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
I assume Musk doesn't actively get harrassed, threats of violence, death threats on a regular basis - plenty of people do and blocking is the only tool they really have.
He does, and his tool of choice is the banhammer.
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@Arantor said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@izzion said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
So from that standpoint, changing the definition of blocking someone to preventing them from directly messaging you at all (and maybe preventing you from seeing their activity, though I'm given to understand that's not part of the currently announced change)
The current block feature:
- hides all content from that person
- stops that person seeing your content
- prevents them directly reaching out to you
- reduces their ability to reach out to you via mutuals
- prevents them DMing you
Consider the difference between this and mute (which is what most forums offer) where said person can still see you and interact with you, but in a reduced way.
Taking the block feature out is actively harmful because it will re-enable various unpleasant stalker-types who don't take no for an answer.
I assume Musk doesn't actively get harrassed, threats of violence, death threats on a regular basis - plenty of people do and blocking is the only tool they really have.
I'm assuming also that a large part of this problem is Musk having figured out that so many people block him (and by virtue of the algorithm, this immediately improves their experience by it also discouraging his immediate network from turning up in the timeline - I immediately stopped seeing Musk-stans after blocking him)
I suspect blocking will not go away because of the App Store requirements, but I could see it go under the subscriber tier.
Elon demonstrably want the ability to block others but not be blocked himself (for someone who claims that blocking makes no sense, he does seem to do it quite a bit).
Ironically I feel that this move takes the entire thing full circle back to the original comments right at the start of this thread about this being political, though at this point I no longer understand whether Elon is doing this out of an actual political motivation or simply that he's so full of his own bullshit that anything that makes sense to him is what he's doing this minute.
I read somewhere (don't recall where) that block is getting replaced by a different feature where if you block someone, you can't see their content anymore, but they can still see yours.
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@PleegWat that’s the mute function, and really isn’t an adequate replacement because it doesn’t stop them harassing you if you block them.
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@TwelveBaud he’s been observed blocking people as well this weekend.
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@Arantor said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
He's the world's #1 rich guy and #2 shitposter. Neither one of those is nothing.
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@Arantor Twitter blocking has always been mostly limited to not being messaged from that account, assuming you make public Tweets. Use a private window or different account and you can stalk all you want.
I don't see why Elon couldn't just make his account unblockable and leave everyone else alone, though. His ego paid enough for the privilege.
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@Parody said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
I don't see why Elon couldn't just make his account unblockable and leave everyone else alone, though. His ego paid enough for the privilege.
People will then use the official web interface with user scripts. Some of us really don't want to read his blathering.
He's one of only three people I have blocked. The others are an ex-President () and a rant-fuelled TERF I'd never heard of before. No good ever came of reading that sort of deranged blathering, and I have nothing I want to say to any of them.
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@dkf said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
He's one of only three people I have blocked.
My block list contains the footballers Wayne Rooney and Jermaine Defoe, and I have absolutely no idea why I have them blocked.
The rest is either spam follows (from before the Remove Follower option was added) or crpyto accounts posting stupid ads that have shown up on my Followed tab.
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@Parody said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@Arantor Twitter blocking has always been mostly limited to not being messaged from that account, assuming you make public Tweets. Use a private window or different account and you can stalk all you want.
You can no longer view a user's posts with the official UI, it always sends you to the login page.You need an alternative UI like Nitter before you can stalk people so it does take a little more effort than a private browsing window...EDIT: Huh, it seems like the behavior changed again. I was now able to do it.
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@JBert said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@Parody said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@Arantor Twitter blocking has always been mostly limited to not being messaged from that account, assuming you make public Tweets. Use a private window or different account and you can stalk all you want.
You can no longer view a user's posts with the official UI, it always sends you to the login page.
Does that mean no more twitter embeds and other people sharing queefs outside of twitter because of the login wall?
That would be the best thing to happen, actually.
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@topspin said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
Does that mean no more twitter embeds and other people sharing queefs outside of twitter because of the login wall?
No embeds work again, as does following a link to a tweet from Google.
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@loopback0 said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@topspin said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
Does that mean no more twitter embeds and other people sharing queefs outside of twitter because of the login wall?
No embeds work again, as does following a link to a tweet from Google.
And talks about “makes no sense” …
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@Arantor do we have any proof that he’s not just three 6 year olds in a trenchcoat?
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@topspin said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@Arantor do we have any proof that he’s not just three 6 year olds in a trenchcoat?
I mean, If I suddenly became the wealthiest man in the world, I just might go on a drunken rampage through internet like he does. I might have waited for twatter to crash before buying it though, because I'll always be a cheapass.
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@Carnage that would involve planning instead of just “hurr durr, I’m so rich I’ll buy that shit” followed by “look how ridiculous they are, now they want to sue me to buy that shit”. So that’s the price he paid.
But then, he’s made enough money with market manipulation games, he can handle it.
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@Carnage I still think 's is doing this because he's butthurt after discovering that people were blocking him.
Somehow I think if you were a billionaire on a drunken rampage, you'd have a better reason. Not necessarily a good reason, but still.
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@cvi said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@Carnage I still think 's is doing this because he's butthurt after discovering that people were blocking him.
Somehow I think if you were a billionaire on a drunken rampage, you'd have a better reason. Not necessarily a good reason, but still.
My first thing when taking over twitter would probably have been turning the bird pink and plonking a pair of huge tits on it.
...And now that I search for such things I see that there are indeed sexy anthropomorphic twitter bird pictures. I otoh wouldn't make it anthropomorphic.I wonder who would be upset about that....
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@Carnage said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
My first thing when taking over twitter would probably have been turning the bird pink and plonking a pair of huge tits on it.
Yeah, but you're far more competent than he is.
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@Carnage said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
plonking a pair of huge tits on it.
Don't forget to make them ultra strong spotlights when you install the new logo on top of twitter HQ.
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@cvi said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@Carnage said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
plonking a pair of huge tits on it.
Don't forget to make them ultra strong spotlights when you install the new logo on top of twitter HQ.
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@Arantor said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
In case anybody needed a reminder that even technically smart people can say things that don't give that impression.
His post actually demonstrates his opponent's position. If he blocks them, so what?
On the other hand, he convinced me of the soundness of his position by the multiple ROFL icons.
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@jinpa it’s actually really funny, even a large percentage of his rabid fan base are suggesting this is a bad look.
Fuck, even Catturd thinks this is a bad look. (So of course Elon blocked him. I wonder if blocking is starting to “make sense” in his head yet. Doubt it, that would require something other than ego to be rattling around in there.)
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I used to wonder about Melon's competence at running Twitter - but of late I had no questions.
Now I have questions about his competence to run Tesla...
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@remi said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
This is interesting because it shows how all the people writing the articles assume that everybody has a Twitter account!
But at the same time, most people I actually know in real life... don't.
Fun fact: I have a Twitter account because someone hacked my spam email account. (To be fair, it had a 6-character password at the time.) I discovered the Twitter account, changed its password, changed the password on my spam email account, and, uh, I've used it exactly once to poke a friend who was paying more attention to Twitter than his phone at the time (which was on a charger in a different room).
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@remi said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
So now Elon will take a law firm to handle the lawsuit with that law firm, and when he loses and get the bill for that lawsuit, he'll sue them and get another law firm...
I'm pretty sure Musk's next law firm will figure out what a "retainer" is, and only work while there's money in the bank, rather than sending a bill and hoping Musk pays it.
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@dcon said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
So did we. Oh wait, no, we were bought and changed our name. And shortly after, changed the name of the product we're working on. Makes looking at the code fun... namespaces in (old company 1), (old company 2), (current company), (old product name), (new product name).
My work has used Azure DevOps for years, and our codebase is littered with references to its previous names. TFS, VSO, VSTS, and now ADO. All new work uses the latest name, of course, but lots of old stuff is sticking around.
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@PotatoEngineer said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@remi said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
This is interesting because it shows how all the people writing the articles assume that everybody has a Twitter account!
But at the same time, most people I actually know in real life... don't.
Fun fact: I have a Twitter account because someone hacked my spam email account. (To be fair, it had a 6-character password at the time.) I discovered the Twitter account, changed its password, changed the password on my spam email account, and, uh, I've used it exactly once to poke a friend who was paying more attention to Twitter than his phone at the time (which was on a charger in a different room).
If you liked doing this, you may enjoy the sport of Scam Baiting.
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@jinpa said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
If you liked doing this, you may enjoy the sport of Scam Baiting.
I don't have the time or inclination to do this more than once a year.
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@PotatoEngineer Warthogs find that it's also fun as a spectator sport.
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@PotatoEngineer said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
Azure DevOps for years, and our codebase is littered with references to its previous names. TFS, VSO, VSTS, and now ADO.
Yeah, Microsoft can't leave the bloody names alone. Have you already heard of Entra?
Quiz question: what is (got renamed to) Entra?
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@Bulb said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
Yeah, Microsoft can't leave the bloody names alone.
My conspiracy theory is that the work-and-code-management-program got kicked between different VPs and divisions, and at every move, someone with more ego than brains wanted to put their stamp (or at least their division's stamp) on it, and be damned to the marketing-power loss.
So I suppose Azure has it now.
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@Bulb said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@PotatoEngineer said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
Azure DevOps for years, and our codebase is littered with references to its previous names. TFS, VSO, VSTS, and now ADO.
Yeah, Microsoft can't leave the bloody names alone. Have you already heard of Entra?
Quiz question: what is (got renamed to) Entra?
They just realized that MEAD made a much better backronym than the previous name of the product.
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@izzion said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
MEAD made a much better backronym
But it's MEID, not MEAD
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@Bulb said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@izzion said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
MEAD made a much better backronym
But it's MEID, not MEAD
It will always be Microsoft Entra Active Directory in the hearts of those who know.
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@Arantor said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
Now I have questions about his competence to run Tesla...
Now?
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@PotatoEngineer said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@dcon said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
So did we. Oh wait, no, we were bought and changed our name. And shortly after, changed the name of the product we're working on. Makes looking at the code fun... namespaces in (old company 1), (old company 2), (current company), (old product name), (new product name).
My work has used Azure DevOps for years, and our codebase is littered with references to its previous names. TFS, VSO, VSTS, and now ADO. All new work uses the latest name, of course, but lots of old stuff is sticking around.
One of my favorite parts of Vernor Vinge's Deepness in the Sky was that bits that dealt with "code archaeology" or whatever he called it, and how a character got aheady by using his knowledge of code that was hundreds of years old.
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@boomzilla said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@Arantor said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
Now I have questions about his competence to run Tesla...
Now?
See, I don’t know that much about cars, and I figured that other people more knowledgeable than me thought he was talking sense so I shrugged and moved on. (I don’t even have a drivers licence, let alone own a car)
Then of course I saw his fiddling with Twitter and realised that he doesn’t know squat about software.
Buuuut, I have some awareness of the kinds of precision engineering he’s talking about here because this used to be my dad’s day job, doing precision engineering for car parts. And having been to that factory and done a work experience stint there, I saw first hand in 2000 what the tolerances on that kind of engineering were - and we talked about it on and off after that. Even allowing for improvements in metallurgy etc in the last decade or two, we’re still not leaps and bounds further on (my dad was making parts to within 10 microns back then when it mattered!) Sadly he’s not with us today to find this whole shit hilarious.
Yes, technically Elon is correct that Lego is manufactured to a precision of 0.002mm. But they’re not using the same materials he is and they’re doing it at an entirely different scale to him, and what is doubly funny to me is how wildly different they are in terms of how the physical properties of those materials react.
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@Arantor we have a long running thread that began about making fun of him (it's a bit broader now).
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@Arantor I’m not convinced that the cyber truck isn’t a joke.
But then, he also took the working concept of a subway and turned it into taxi tunnels, with hilariously bad capacity and a few other hilarious things. But maybe that’s just due to the US political climate that hates public transportation and rewards stupid shit like he’s specialized in.
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@topspin said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@Arantor I’m not convinced that the cyber truck isn’t a joke.
But then, he also took the working concept of a subway and turned it into taxi tunnels, with hilariously bad capacity and a few other hilarious things. But maybe that’s just due to the US
political climategeography that hates public transportation and rewards stupid shit like he’s specialized in.Politicians love public transportation but it's just not suited to most of the country outside of dense urban areas.
The key to understanding Elon's harebrained schemes is to think of him as a real life Bond villain.
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@topspin I've always assumed the Cybertruck was 100% genuine because it's the sort of bollocks only he could come up with and actually try to make it real.
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@boomzilla said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@topspin said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@Arantor I’m not convinced that the cyber truck isn’t a joke.
But then, he also took the working concept of a subway and turned it into taxi tunnels, with hilariously bad capacity and a few other hilarious things. But maybe that’s just due to the US
political climategeography that hates public transportation and rewards stupid shit like he’s specialized in.Politicians love public transportation but it's just not suited to most of the country outside of dense urban areas.
But his bullshit is planned for dense urban areas, like LV, where proven approaches would actually work, instead of his solution roughly equivalent to “we need more helicopter landing pads.”
The key to understanding Elon's harebrained schemes is to think of him as a real life Bond villain.
Oh, I do. Kind of.
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@topspin the difference between him and Bond villains is that Bond Villains have a point to what they're doing while Elon just does seems to do whatever occurs to him today.